Wheres Nilfun gone?

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Originally posted by Pengi:
[qb] For serious? That's pretty funny. [/qb]
yeah, nilfun used to be nilfun.net instead of .com but someone let the domain registration expire. between it expiring and it being noticed it had expired, someone else had grabbed nilfun.net, so the address was changed to .com

it was somewhat unfortunate because it happened right around the time one all was released in america and the first pressings pointed people to the wrong website.

bean, nilfun.com googles fine for me. i just searched nilfun. the .net site was listed first, but .com was right underneath. Smiler
Oh I hope it comes back soon. I love that website, especially the elevator: it was the nearest thing I had to a recording of Parables, Lullabies and Secrets - which in my opinion was the best performance I have ever seen Neil give. Please bring it back! On that topic though, does anyone know how to get a copy of Parables, Lullabies & Secrets, if such a recording exists?
EMI have been holding neilfinn.com for donkeys years... I checked a whois lookup, and from what I can gather, Neil still owns the nilfun.com domain (for at least a couple of years). Maybe he forgot to renew his hosting rather than the domain this time?

To be honest, its no great loss, it hasn't been updated more than a couple of times in the last few years.
Nilfun was a very ambitious and original site for a while. The brilliant guy that Neil had hired for a year to design and run the site, Rakai Karaitiana quickly became very in demand and was ultimately too expensive for Neil to retain. Neil hired someone else and intended to add new features to Nilfun every month or so but soon completely lost interest. He says it's a shame and he intended it to last longer, but unless one focusses on something like that permanently, it slips off the radar as one gets into something else. It's no surprise to me that the site has disappeared altogether now. It was designed to be an evolving work and looked kinda sad just sitting there in limbo.

He said a couple of years ago that the site will get "redone" sometime. I'd imagine there'll be a totally new site to accompany Neil's next solo album, but I doubt Nilfun will return.

Do check out the above link to Rakai's site. It features some One Nil interactive creations and animations amongst other things.
Jaffa, totally agree about Rakai, it seemed to me as if he and Neil were on the same wavelength, and I loved the way Neil integrated some of the web stuff into his live shows, improvising lyrics over the samples. I met Rakai once after one of those shows, he's a nice guy. His work on Nilfun far outshone the later version, which was less creative and leant more towards a conventional promotional website - I can understand why Neil lost interest in that. If the reason for Rakai's departure was financial, that's a real shame. Although the site was never going to recoup the money spent on it, I would like to think it was worth it. But then I'm not Neil's accountant. This reminds me of a discussion that went on a few years back, when Neil was after fans' opinions on whether Nilfun, or at least certain features of it, should only be available by subscription. I wonder if there's a connection.

I still think the content had some life in it, if the date-specific stuff had been removed - in other words going back to the original concept. It even gets a mention on Saatchi and Saatchi's LoveMarks site (look in the 'Plain Cool' section - don't bother clicking the link to nilfun.com though!):
Sites beyond the bland of brand
Neil, you took my sound toys away - gonna sulk now Frowner
Hmmphhhh

As out there as it was,
I still had fun with the loops
and elevator.

Surely dedicated fans could run it
for him. Well those with technical minded
ways.

ps~ How cool is that bloke's site !! Just been sniffing through it. Few Neil bits on there, slide over to the right.
Hmm, I knew that the original address had changed (nilfun.net to nilfun.com, or the other way round Wink ), but neither seem to work now. Pity, it was beautifully done and there was a lot of nice stuff to be found there, specially the music/webcast archives...
Jeez, I'll miss that site if it doesn't come back... hmmm maybe Neil will employ me as his graphics and web designer and I can revive it!! I'd stick by it like a rock, no fleeting off to pastures new (no offense to ther other dude). Now that would be my dream job Cool Big Grin . Neil if you're listening (well reading) I'm available (and cheap seeing as I'm a recent graduate Wink )!!
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Originally posted by alucidor:
[qb] I still think the content had some life in it, if the date-specific stuff had been removed - in other words going back to the original concept. It even gets a mention on Saatchi and Saatchi's LoveMarks site (look in the 'Plain Cool' section - don't bother clicking the link to nilfun.com though!):
Sites beyond the bland of brand
Neil, you took my sound toys away - gonna sulk now Frowner [/qb]
Heh, the author must have been a fan! He's spent a bit of time in NZ though, so I guess that may have been why he put it in! It's a good book, though I don't think the link to Neil's site was in there...
Rakai's site is pretty cool! I found that the sound for Anytime didn't sync with the Flash - I think is must be a prob with my browser. Interesting that he did the graphics for One Nil - it looked like an up-and-coming designer had done it (not in a bad way, but as in someone who was embracing new style of graphic design).
Well, i'm from South Africa and it seems like
i'm always "the last to know" about anything that happens in the life of Neil Finn. Maybe he's
taking some time on a new release. I sure hope so.
The last Finn brothers album was very good, much
more lighter than i would've expected.
If someone can inform me on some stuff, that'll be
cool.

see ya'round
Originally Posted by Jaffaman:
Originally Posted by Jaffaman:
Neil... said a couple of years ago that the site will get "redone" sometime. I'd imagine there'll be a totally new site to accompany Neil's next solo album, but I doubt Nilfun will return.

Well, I was half right.
neilfinn.com/nilfun

 

 

 

 

Does the "Kitchen Sink-Rarities" disc that's shown in Neil's music exist as an actual disc? Is it a fan club disc, perhaps? I have heard all of those tracks anyway, but I'm old-fashioned enough that I would love to have a physical copy. Any info would be appreciated.

Originally Posted by Steve Shealy:
Originally Posted by Jaffaman:
Originally Posted by Jaffaman:
Neil... said a couple of years ago that the site will get "redone" sometime. I'd imagine there'll be a totally new site to accompany Neil's next solo album, but I doubt Nilfun will return.

Well, I was half right.
neilfinn.com/nilfun

 

 

 

 

Does the "Kitchen Sink-Rarities" disc that's shown in Neil's music exist as an actual disc? Is it a fan club disc, perhaps? I have heard all of those tracks anyway, but I'm old-fashioned enough that I would love to have a physical copy. Any info would be appreciated.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Never mind, further digging answered my own question!

To true ..and who would have known !! I am excited to see what gets put back in . ..as I missed the Nilfun site all together ..Thanks to those with long memories or dedication to their artist
 
 
 
Originally Posted by Jaffaman:
Originally Posted by Jaffaman:
Neil... said a couple of years ago that the site will get "redone" sometime. I'd imagine there'll be a totally new site to accompany Neil's next solo album, but I doubt Nilfun will return.

Well, I was half right.
neilfinn.com/nilfun

 

Some elements from nilfun have now been added to www.neilfinn.com . They're not interlinked as they were on nilfun but are still fun to play with. Here's the blurb from the diary page:
 
 

Around the turn of the millennium, Neil Finn and designer Rakai Karaitiana created nilfun.net. It was online for a short time, went offline, reappeared as nilfun.com and then just as quickly disappeared again.

As Neil said in his diary entry from 14th November 2012, “I did some serious flirting with the internet back in 2001 on a site called Nilfun where we assembled musical games, art pieces, curious bits of nostalgia and flights of fancy… I loved the freedom and possibilities we discovered but then other work came along to distract. I left the internet behind to a large extent…”

Now that Neil’s back online with neilfinn.com , we’ve resurrected “some archive works from the Nilfun experiment – which still seem pretty relevant and modern to me.”

If you have Flash on your device, have a play. We’ll be adding more audio and video from the Nilfun days soon.

 

So exciting to see bits of NilFun revived! Thanks to all who made this happen as now I get to PLAY!!!

 

For those who would like to see bits of remaining NilFun, I have bookmarked a few pages from the Wayback Machine archive. Here is one of my favorites. Try the 'Hear' button for a link to interactive sound-making machines: http://web.archive.org/web/200...lfun.com/nilfun.html

 

And here is the 'Elevator': http://web.archive.org/web/200.../jukebox/jukebox.swf

 

Hopefully these will make it onto the new site (if they haven't already). In the meantime, have FUN!

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