Very Very Best Of!!

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Originally posted by brownie:
I wonder if Recurring Dream will be deleted now?

I highly doubt it. The record companies may not be known for their common sense, but even they wouldn't delete an album as popular as RD. Its success in Australia alone should guarantee it'll be in print virtually forever.
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Originally posted by N1ck:
Am just wondering if this album has a blue cover or a red cover as have already seen 2 posters (one in each)?
One's a nighttime cover, one's a daytime. Different releases in different territories (in different timezones).

The cover's not by Nick but he did work closely on the concept with the artist.
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Originally posted by jacocake:
The band still gets money from the sale right? It's not like EMI pockets it all....is there anyone who knows the legal aspect of this?
If nothing else, they (mostly meaning Neil, but he has had deals in the past where the band got a piece of the pie) make the royalties from the publishing rights to the songs; that's where the majority of the money is, anyway.
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Originally posted by Jaffaman:
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Originally posted by N1ck:
Am just wondering if this album has a blue cover or a red cover as have already seen 2 posters (one in each)?
One's a nighttime cover, one's a daytime. Different releases in different territories (in different timezones).

The cover's not by Nick but he did work closely on the concept with the artist.


Do you know where we will find the red cover Jaffaman?
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Originally posted by Watney Sideburns:
The only thing about the project I like is the cover. It's definitely not Nick's artwork, I would say, despite the references to the covers of the first albums. Still, it's a trainspotter's delight, what with all its references to Crowded House songs and lore -- pineapples and seven worlds, Lester the dalmatian and a Sharondelier, are just a few of the many items housed in the crowded caravan (which may or may not be in the hills). Slightly nerdy, but in a fun way.


I *love* the cover. It reminds me of a Graeme Base picture book!
It's actually not something EMI have suddenly decided to do, my first emails on this go back to April so 6 months ago. Possibly it's end of contract related. ( not sure didn't ask)

I really like all 4 season cover designs.... we are clearing photos and such now.

It's actually more seasonal Jaffa and moves through the day (Dawn-Day-Sunset-Night/ Spring/Summer/Autumn/Winter) The caravan has 2 sides (one the inside) and one the solid side. I like how Lester's hiding inside as well.

Anyway more on all of this over the next month...all 4 are really lovely covers though.
Gryph
I'd seriously doubt they'd delete Recurring Dream, it just keeps on charting.... and it's handy as a single CD for music fans just discovering the group.

Plus every christmas it really sells, it's an ultimate stocking stuffer that one. A few years in Australia Recurring Dream would sell a Gold records worth during the Christmas period.!!!

Gryph
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Originally posted by gryphon:
I really like all 4 season cover designs.... we are clearing photos and such now.

It's actually more seasonal Jaffa and moves through the day (Dawn-Day-Sunset-Night/ Spring/Summer/Autumn/Winter) The caravan has 2 sides (one the inside) and one the solid side. I like how Lester's hiding inside as well.


How cool is that. Thanks for the update!
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Originally posted by Half-Full:
Hey, treegrrl or Martine, what was Nick sayaing about this after the show in Edmonton? My recollection is a little fuzzy.


He seemed very angry Mad about it. I didn't know about this upcoming collection coming out, but I assume now, this is what he was ranting about. I heard "exploitive of the fans" and "money grab" and a few swears I shan't repeat. I said "You mean all those "Best of" and "Essential" etc type collections and he said Yes.

He then went on a tangent about why he doesn't like unreleased material being released either. "there is usuually a reason why a song doesn't make it on an album--"

And I got from him that he also thought releasing this material was exploitive of fans too.

I told him that we all love Afterglow for instance and he allowed that some of those were really good but some where just sub par. I asked for an example from Afterglow that he felt was not very good and he thought for a second and offered up Dr Livingstone as an example.

Very interesting chat and a rare opportunity for a fan to have a real conversation with a band member about the music Big Grin

I really like the cover but I have all this material several times over probably but agree it might be a nice thing for new fans or non fans who want to wade in before they do a full belly flop into all of it.
Nick can pry "Dr. Livingstone" from my cold, dead hands! He also hates "My Telly Gone Bung."

When I talked to him after the Clearwater show and requested "Turn It Around," he said that same thing about there being a reason it didn't make the album. I told him it wasn't somehing I could hear, because it's better than everything that made the album to me. He was surprised I'd heard the recorded version. I probably should've told him it's an iTunes bonus track.
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Originally posted by Martine:
I asked for an example from Afterglow that he felt was not very good and he thought for a second and offered up Dr Livingstone as an example.


Ya, it's not my favourite song either from Afterglow, but there's probably another good reason why Nick doesn't like the song. The band had worked on it and I think finished it while Nick was temporarily "kicked out" of CH.

On a different note, I wish Turn it Around was on the album too, but oh well.
Various ways of looking at it,if it gets a decent promo and sells copies to non frenz! then that has got to be a good thing,could help sales of TOE & Intriguer and encourage younger people to get more interested in the band.
A lot of people see any 80's band as nostalgia and will go along as we know to concerts to hear the hits,the problem this time around in UK was that the album had not come out,bad planning by Universal again,so nobody knew the new songs properly anyway!!
I took my son Tom along to see CH in Plymouth with me,and he had only heard the usual Weather,Dream stuff and he loved them,aged 24! So there is hope that the legacy will continue(sounds like Star Wars)lol
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Originally posted by Axver:
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Originally posted by Watney Sideburns:
Nice cover. Odd tracklist. One song only from Temple??


Can't believe When You Come isn't on the CD release! Especially when something as truly awful as Not The Girl is.

Delighted to see Recurring Dream is on the digital-only version. Shame it's not on the CD version, but the pessimist in me had expected it to be totally ignored.

End of the day though, can't say this matters much to me, as there's no way I'm going to buy this. Could just as easily make it myself in an iTunes playlist. Think I'll stick with my personal Best Of Crowdies playlist though; it may have much less commercial appeal, but I think it's awesome.


I won't be buying it either and I agree about NtGYTYA. The best I can say about that one is that many people love it.
- what most fans want is a live DVD, guess this latest best of best of isn't aimed at us, more the non or casual fans.....

wonder whether the band have any promo obligations with regard to the release - could that have been built into the exit clause of their contract?
On reflection I think I shall also give this one a miss. I'd much rather Recurring Dream to re-chart than this somewhat hastily thrown together looking effort. Confused

Most (if not all) here will have all of these songs and more and could put together a cracking hits CD on iTunes in seconds so I cannot see the point of this apart from one or two extras.
There was so much more that could have made it on here (especially the DVD) but alas was left out. Smells of extra revenue for EMI perhaps?

I do hope that Recurring Dream Greatest Hits is not deleted and continues to chart for years to come as it is a fantastically accessible window into the world of CH for 'non-fans'.

Still hoping that the 'Making of TA' video turns up on an official release somewhere soon! Smiler
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Originally posted by dave robson:
Various ways of looking at it,if it gets a decent promo and sells copies to non frenz! then that has got to be a good thing,could help sales of TOE & Intriguer and encourage younger people to get more interested in the band.
A lot of people see any 80's band as nostalgia and will go along as we know to concerts to hear the hits,the problem this time around in UK was that the album had not come out,bad planning by Universal again,so nobody knew the new songs properly anyway!!
I took my son Tom along to see CH in Plymouth with me,and he had only heard the usual Weather,Dream stuff and he loved them,aged 24! So there is hope that the legacy will continue(sounds like Star Wars)lol

Yep I'm with you on this one. I don't particularly want to download a load of songs that I have way too many versions of but the artwork on cds is what keeps me parting with my pennies!
This may be a money making scheme, but any promotion has to be good promotion and for those that overlooked the last best of effort this could be a new discovery. Many may not even know CH have reformed. Of course this will only work with a good push from promotional support.
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Originally posted by stuartjb:
Does anyone know if the tracks are remastered?


That was my question as well...that might be one reason to buy it.

Some of the tracks have not appeared on Recurring Dream or that other "best of" compilation, so they will have to be remastered. Everything will need to receive a new mastering treatment on some level, really, if only so the loudness is consistent. The question is will they just tweak the old Recurring Dream versions, or are they starting from scratch.

I think it's too much to hope that EMI will do things more naturally, less compressed this time around...
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Originally posted by dave robson:
Various ways of looking at it,if it gets a decent promo and sells copies to non frenz! then that has got to be a good thing,could help sales of TOE & Intriguer and encourage younger people to get more interested in the band.
A lot of people see any 80's band as nostalgia and will go along as we know to concerts to hear the hits,the problem this time around in UK was that the album had not come out,bad planning by Universal again,so nobody knew the new songs properly anyway!!
I took my son Tom along to see CH in Plymouth with me,and he had only heard the usual Weather,Dream stuff and he loved them,aged 24! So there is hope that the legacy will continue(sounds like Star Wars)lol
I don't see any way this new best-of helps them with garnering younger fans; this'll sell to people in their forties and fifties who know the hits but don't own any CH, and that might result in some more ToE or Intriguer sales. But what's on here that will make a 25-year-old (unlike your son, who's heard them live) want to buy it? Not a bloody thing. And I still think Neil is probably primarily to blame for the delay in the release of Intriguer; if Universal know anything, they know how to make money. And not having the album out to coincide with the start of the tour is just bad business. I'd guess Neil was tinkering about with the album and didn't deliver it in time for it to be released before the tour started. That seems like the kind of semi-subversive thing he'd do, doesn't it?
Yeah I do like those covers.... the original pdfs are quite long, the back design almost links to the front with a secondary caravan... the summer backing has a sun flower in the window, winter night the moon.... really nice.

Some of the photos in the booklets are more home photo album-ish... a few are promo. Still not sure on what was finally signed off but they could be cool too. I'm wondering with the Aussie tour will that mean we could have two Crowded House albums in the ARIA Top 100? (That's if Intriguer continues to climb)

Gryph
If releasing this one - clearly for the casual acquaintance rather than the intimate friend - means that the NEXT release is now cued up as something targeted firmly at the diehards (rarities - Mullanes demos/live, unreleased, etc.), then I'll pay the toll.

It just seems like a bit of a pointless release given what's already out there (i.e. Rec Dream and that Capitol one from the late 90s). But I try to remember that by and large, CH do treat the fans quite well (extra live disc on Rec Dream, Afterglow release, interview disc on Afterglow, tons of live tracks on the cd singles).

But please, no more compilations after this one.
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Originally posted by Molten Toothpaste:
Look I have the songs - can I just send $20 somewhere so I can get the four new covers as artworks thanks.... Smiler
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Yes!! Please!!

Although I could definitely see purchasing this as a Christmas present for my young relations, infecting the next generation with the CH bug.

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