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Originally posted by Mr. Sadly:
Oh, I love "All I Ask"! I have all these involved harmonies that I contribute to it right before the orchestral movement kicks in.

I'm not sure it fits into the album, but then Woodface is so WAW anyway.

*Wild And Wooly
I do the harmony thing on this song, too; there's a really cool moving line that goes brilliantly underneath that last note he holds - right before it goes into the final "Alllllll...IIIIIIIIIIIIII...Aaaaaaaaaaask."

I still hate the song, though.
I have been listening to Time on Earth again recently. I still think it's a terribly underrated album, full of terribly underrated songs. Nothing on Intriguer matches it for emotional rawness or complexity.

A Sigh is a monster. I can see why it puts most people off: it's hardly a pick-me-up that makes you smile as the s*** comes down. With this song, Neil taps a darkness that scares the bejesus out of most of us -- the feeling of utter hopelessness that wells up as you watch a dearly loved friend succumb to the feeling of utter hopelessness. He could have made this emotional snapshot morbid, or pretentious. But instead he captures the emotion succinctly, movingly, and with so much humanity. It's a classic ... and it deserved better than to be used as Ugly Betty's break-up track with nerdy boyfriend #1.

She Walked Her Way Down is also beyond superb. On the recorded version, Rikki Gooch's and Ethan Johns's drumming doesn't do it justice. Live, on tour in 2007-8, it became a showstopper. It's near the top of my dream list of songs I wish Neil would re-record with Matt Sherrod on drums. That, and You Can Touch (of course).
What do we really perceive as being 'underrated...?

Only kidding[adidas breathes an audible sigh of relief!} But atleast I've read the thread.

I too love TOE,especialy 'Say that Again' although many dont[it could be the 'new' All I Ask] 'SADLY!!!!' What do you think?

And for old ones Cant Carry On,Toombstone and Reccuring Dream...ooooh theres tooooo many!

What about 'Most Unwanted'
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Originally posted by thepearls42:
What do we really perceive as being 'underrated...?

What about 'Most Unwanted'


Oh yes! the best song they never put out on a CD.....apart from Convent Girls, Only Way To Go Is Forward, Lucky,Isolation Mk 1 etc etc etc

- would have to say Tombstone, Transit Lounge or Never Be The Same for me.......
Wow. The thread lives on almost 3 years after I posted it. I have been getting emails from subsequent posts and I LOVE IT!
I have another song which may ring a bell. "Can't Carry On" from their debut album. Funny thing is this: when I bought the original cassette(!!!) this song wasn't included here in America. It was only when I later purchased the CD that I heard this song.
This song makes me happy. Period. And I have never, ever heard anyone rave about it.
Keep posting your gems...this is fun and I haven't been here for a long time.
Thanks! Big Grin
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Originally posted by John/WestCoast:
... "Can't Carry On" ...

This song makes me happy. Period. And I have never, ever heard anyone rave about it.

still to this day the single best piece of work from Neil and the band in my view. signature Neil lyrics and topic, amazing, and i mean truly amazing atmosphere and guitars, best drumming of any CH song, bass (if not the best) at least as good as any CH song, and the best all out rocker from the band. then it only got better with the 5.1 mix. dont believe me? keep turning it up until you do (when i crank this one i am nearly emotionally and physically drained by the time its over).
- I think I Feel Possessed got plenty of plays/love/respect on the last tour (rightly so!).

Agree re: Walked Her Way Down, although TOE was in the main rather neglected, wasn't it - DSN, Pour Le Monde got fairly frequent plays, English Trees, Silent House & Say That Again got occassional outings but not sure whether anything else did.

Actually be interesting to see some Intriguer Tour stats, i.e. top 5 most played and bottom 5 (properly rehearsed songs, not responses to requests).......but I guess that'll be for another thread!
Another one that I'd love to see get resurrected live is In The Lowlands, I've got a couple of awesome live versions from the TOLM tour, wish they'd have a go at playing it again (I've got one version from the TOE tour that doesn't come close).

I think Say That Again is great as well SmilerMaybe How Will You Go for another one, that seems to have been totally forgotten.
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Originally posted by John/WestCoast:
I have another song which may ring a bell. "Can't Carry On" from their debut album. This song makes me happy. Period. And I have never, ever heard anyone rave about it.
Thanks! Big Grin


Read your thread John *grin* I raved about it 3 posts back[well it wasnt really a rave but thats as good as it gets]
If I can choose one, which was "only" released as a Demo-Version on the Farewell-DVD:

Spirit of the stairs

This one catches me every time, and this Demo-Version is much better than a lot of CH songs and also much better than the Studio-Version from the TWT-Sessions (Neil solo). I also like the rocky-raw groove of this demo-version.

Still a shame that this song never was recorded properly again, for Intriguer f.e.
Spirit of the Stairs....another GREAT song.

I was thinking...regarding my earlier post about a greatest nonhits record. I'd like to attend a greatest nonhits concert....a show full of album tracks, b-sides, underrated songs. Just imagine the setlist..

In the Lowlands
You Can Touch
People Are Like Suns
Love this Life
In My Command
Whispers and Moans
Love You Till the Day I Die
Hole in the River
Killeye
Lost Island
Falling Dove
Catherine Wheels
Nobody Wants To
Spirit of the Stairs
Turn it Around
Convent Girls
Pour le Monde
Silent House
I Walk Away
How Will You Go

Encore:
Recurring Dream
Italian Plastic
Together Alone - complete with Maori choir

Just think what a great show this would be with not a hit in the bunch. That says a lot about them, I think. I found it hard to narrow down. It actually might have to be a really long show with several more songs added Wink
Nice to see Convent Girls mentioned.

I absolutely love Convent Girls and Be My Guest, though CG could probably use some revised lyrics. I'm not aware if they ever performed it apart from the one bootlegged track that's floating around out there, so it probably was never labored over too intensely. But that's part of its charm.

Both that and the Be My Guest recording (again, I think there's only one?) were done during my favorite live period, the Woodface tour. They became rockier and more tightly-professional sounding after Together Alone, but the band had such a wonderfully loose (but still plenty solid) chemistry in 1991-1992. Neil's voice still sounds amazing today, but I think it sounded best in that period, and probably due to physiology it'll never be quite that great again (no fault to him, it's just age).
I've been really enjoying "She's Not There" recently. I know it's just a cover song but I really love what the band did with it.

I find that it's pretty much the only real "b-side" from Temple of Low Men. I know it wasn't actually used as a b-side but it's the only other song in the CH catalog that really has that TOLM sound. By which I guess I mean the instrumentation and the general sound and feel of the recording. Th e keyboard solo sounds particularly like something you'd hear on TOLM. And since TOLM is brilliant album with only 10 tracks, I'm happy to have one more!

Definitely a rarity that every fan should seek out.
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Originally posted by Half-Full:
Spirit of the Stairs....another GREAT song.

I was thinking...regarding my earlier post about a greatest nonhits record. I'd like to attend a greatest nonhits concert....a show full of album tracks, b-sides, underrated songs. Just imagine the setlist..

In the Lowlands
You Can Touch
People Are Like Suns
Love this Life
In My Command
Whispers and Moans
Love You Till the Day I Die
Hole in the River
Killeye
Lost Island
Falling Dove
Catherine Wheels
Nobody Wants To
Spirit of the Stairs
Turn it Around
Convent Girls
Pour le Monde
Silent House
I Walk Away
How Will You Go

Encore:
Recurring Dream
Italian Plastic
Together Alone - complete with Maori choir

Just think what a great show this would be with not a hit in the bunch. That says a lot about them, I think. I found it hard to narrow down. It actually might have to be a really long show with several more songs added Wink

Great list; I'd love to see "Tail of a Comet" on there. I doubt it would ever happen, but I'm still hoping to see Neil dust off that one and give it another go.
There are potentially a huge number of underrated songs but for me six stand out. (at least today).

I Feel Possesed - Would be amongst Neils best lyrics - great melody/chorus - complete song

Nails In My Feet - As above. So much atmosphere and again a great lyric in his impressionist style and beautfiful melody

Kare Kare - atmoshphere to burn

Chocolate Cake - the different side of CH - funky and satirical. Maybe is should not have been the single but its a great song

Transit Lounge - As above in terms of difference. This songs sounds contemporary and a bit innovative

English Trees - very moving and I think, along with Salt to the Sea, the great tribute to Paul
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Originally posted by Watney Sideburns:
She Walked Her Way Down is also beyond superb. On the recorded version, Rikki Gooch's and Ethan Johns's drumming doesn't do it justice. Live, on tour in 2007-8, it became a showstopper. It's near the top of my dream list of songs I wish Neil would re-record with Matt Sherrod on drums. That, and You Can Touch (of course).

YES!!!

YES YES YES

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