Skip to main content

Using kids in video's is obviously a popular thing at present as another Aussie band Powderfinger have just done it with their new single I Don't Remember. However it is a 100 times better than She Called Up, its really funny & entertaining and makes me want to view it again whereas I really won't be fussed about never seeing SCU again sad as that is to say. I don't really think that a band has to be in their videos (Powderfinger are not in their one) but 9 times outta 10 it helps and yes, I do understand that the Crowdies are busy out on the road and perhaps this was not an option. I suppose the reasoning behind producing a music video is another medium to get the song out there and selling and will this video help this cause, sorry but personally I don't think so.
quote:
Originally posted by crimpies:
quote:
Originally posted by tonguetied:
Question for those who hate it. Given that we can presume the band were unavailable to make an appearanc for the video due to other commitments, what would have been a better idea? What would have capture viewers attentions more?


Well, we need to ask ourselves what band couldn't make the effort to be in their own clip? (One who doesn't need the sales, you might say.) Not that a band needs to be in a clip for it to be successful, but THIS??!! Look at the quality of most of the stuff on the Dreaming DVD, it's stood the test of time, it's still interesting to watch today, and then watch the She Called Up video again. This clip won't get played, it'll kill the chances of 'breaking' the single or even the band overseas chances at this stage, especially with the underwhelming chart performance of Time On Earth in the U.S. Though I suppose they're selling plenty of concert tickets, so it isn't exactly the be-all-end-all, just a little more thought and craft would have been nice for the fans both old and new, especially after what I thought was a pretty cool video for Don't Stop Now. Just my opinion, though.


Well I am not a fan of a lot of the old CH videos and I find a lot of them have not stood the test of time for me personally. Some of them make me cringe quite frankly!
I disagree that the clip won't get played, any more than DSN. It won't make or break the single either IMO. For every person that thinks it is badly made/a terrible idea there seems to be another who thinks the opposite.

A live montage may have been a more rewarding format for the fans. I agree with a couple of you there.
quote:
Originally posted by awamutu:
curious, does anyone know who *made* the video? directed or whatever...?

another opinion to add, i'd much rather see kids miming the song than see the band standing there, pretending to play their instruments. that has got to be one of the most boring "concepts" for a video *ever*. obviously, jmho tho Smiler


Robert Hales.
Well two things i would like to say first.

Thank god i did not stay up all night to watch that as i probably would have had the spirit of Elvis take hold of me & done somethiong to the TV.

At least now when we have a poll on the worst videos the band have done we can give Something So Strong & Instinct a rest.At least they showed up in those video's.

This is flat out bad & is a big mistake no music channel will have this on a high rotation.


Another thing there are a few of you here using the Guys are on tour excuse for not doing the video themselves.I think back to the 1st 4 albums where there were 5 singles off each album & the band were in all the clips & they managed to tour at the same time as well.

Woodface & Together Alone stand out in particular 5 singles off each album.For both albums the band did extensive promotion before the tour & then after the release started the concert tour,both times losing a major band member along the way replaced him continued to tour & still appeared in their own clips.

I can't beleive someone got payed to do this i am in the wrong job for sure.

Well at least i have saved some space in my hardrive as i hit the delete staright after watching it.
Well after watching the video and reading everyone's comments, I figured it was my turn! Big Grin

I liked it, but agree it would've been great to have had the band in amongst the kids singing, wearing the same shirts. Would've been funny, IMO.

You could still have shots of the kids singing, interspersed with shots of have Neil playing the guitar like the kids, have Matt thumping his own bongo, have Mark playing his own xylophone and Nick with a shaker(?) perhaps.

Just my two cents worth (including GST) Razzer
Eh. For a novelty clip, it stands up. But it's not gonna get any decent airplay sadly, even though it's a cute idea. Would've loved to seen the band jump up at the back of the group for even just the last few seconds at least to put their imprint on the video.

It's interesting that this is the first CH clip, containing none of the band at all in any context. Just shows that Neil and Nick are really doing their own thing on CH Mk 2.
Some of you guys sound like you believe a more "normal" CH video would get airplay. I think "Don't Stop Now" was a very straight forward, professional looking video but I don't recall it getting much airplay anywhere.

I think it was probably a good idea to shake things up a bit because I think there's more of a chance of getting noticed. At the very least the band has nothing to lose by making a more experimental video. At most there's a chance that their unique decision will catch some eyes and get some people curious about the song/band.

Music videos don't make or break singles, they either help slightly or have no effect. I don't think a CH video has ever significantly helped a song that wasn't already getting massive radio play. I don't think CH can step outside the box enough, how else are they going to get noticed? The last people they need to impress with a video are the die hard fans on this forum. Making a video that panders to our tastes would be like buying something you already own.
I don't ever remember seeing a CH video anywhere at anytime -- ever.

I think "Pour Le Monde" or "People Are Like Sons" would be good choices for a "larger budget" promotional video. Both of them serious in nature.
Would love to see someone like Ronald Fricke, the guy that did the film BARAKA, get together with artists like CH or Peter Gabriel or King Crimson (should they ever re-emerge in the studio)-- I'm certain such a collaboration would be an eye-opener and create a buzz in the music world and beyond.
Neil had some amazing experimental and innovative visual stuff going on with his Nilfun website, and that always gave me a sense of what his own tastes were. He surrounded himself with some very talented people to put that all together.

With the beautiful graphic design of the entire ToE CD booklet you would expect the same high standards to promote the singles. DSN was an excellent video. Not this time with this video ... bleh!
I saw it and I thought WHAT!! (were they thinking)?

I still have not changed my mind even after some of the great points put here.

I don't like it.

I like the song and I too missed seeing the band in the video.

I associate Paul Hester alot with this song but only because the band played it in an encore with Four Seasons in One Day and Sister Madly. And played it for Paul at the corner.

Maybe that is why I don't get it. I am still mourning Paul Confused

Waiting for the next video..wonder what Pour Le Monde will be like.
quote:
Originally posted by usaoz89:
I saw it and I thought WHAT!! (were they thinking)?

I still have not changed my mind even after some of the great points put here.

I don't like it.

I like the song and I too missed seeing the band in the video.

I associate Paul Hester alot with this song but only because the band played it in an encore with Four Seasons in One Day and Sister Madly. And played it for Paul at the corner.

Maybe that is why I don't get it. I am still mourning Paul Confused

Waiting for the next video..wonder what Pour Le Monde will be like.


I don't like it either

Thought it was such a shame that you don't even see the boys on it at all Frowner

Do you think Pour le Monde is going to be the next single?
I think the next single will be Transit Lounge, and I can see a great airport-related video for that one. Matt checking in bags, Neil in hospitality, Mark as a pilot and Nick in drag as a hostess. Similar in style to the Not The Girl video which I think is one of their best (along with Locked Out).

What is the point of a video anyway? Do people see a video and think "I must buy that song"? More important is to hear the song. If the band is not in the video it has to be sufficiently interesting to make you want to find out who the band is. I don't think She Called Up will achieve that. Nice idea though.

In short, it needs some money spending on it and something a bit more spectacular and/or amusing.

Regards,

Mark
hmm, can't say that I like it much either. I was fully expecting to see the band in amongst the kids, or even their faces superimposed over the kids' faces, but after a couple of close-ups, realised this wasn't going to be the case.

I think it actually looks like the kids aren't even singing She Called Up - just something else that probably sounds close to it and the song's been dubbed over. Either that or the miming's very, very bad. Just MHO. Smiler
well i certainly won't be watching it again...

to be fair, the debate about 'airplayability' is pretty academic, because DSN was a brilliant video yet it did not get played much at all; following that one, though, this video comes as ahuge disappointment - surely to have the guys lurking hidden in amongst the kids, or perhaps (in this hi-tech age) have kids somehow morph into the band members when the spotlight is on them, would have been more like what we come to expect from CH?

we can debate whether or not CH have any real future commercially, all we want, but the fact is this video is clearly not designed to be a much-talked-about video, nor was the single destined for the top of the charts... indeed i actually think the video has killed the one shred of hope there was that this single would have any commercial success whatsoever... which is a shame, because having absolutely loathed the song to start with, i'm actually getting into a little bit (though that may only be because i'm sub-consciously resigned to it)
quote:
Originally posted by Kimo:
They're either essentially pulling the plug on promoting TOE, or there's another vid somewhere they actually hope will be aired.


Goodness you guys sure do get awfully pessimistic when the band does something you don't like. If they were pulling the promotion of TOE they wouldn't have bothered making a music video. Instead they hired an award wining video director and did something very out of the box. Many bands do make more than one music video for their singles so it is possible there may be a "normal" video at some point. However, I don't think that's necessary because, as already noted, "normal" CH videos don't get a minute of air time any way.

I think if the single gets picked up by radio we will see this video on TV but this video will not hurt the single. The real question is whether or not "She Called Up" has any radio potential and that has yet to be seen. I'm pretty doubtful about that since 99.9% of songs do not get played on radio.
I've heard SCU on our best alt-music show (Saturday evening) twice; I'm guessing it's been played more.

You know, though, I would LOVE them to knock one out of the park with Pour le Monde. The mind reels at the killer video that could be made of that...who to direct...maybe Wim Wenders...for some reason images from "Wings of Desire" always come to mind...
I thought the video was fun and it was interesting to see how well the kids could do on the lyrics. They seemed pretty young and the song moves pretty quickly so I was surprised at how accurate they ended up being with their lip-synching. I do have to agree that it would have been a nice treat to see the band every few shots, but, all in all, it was an enjoyable break in my day.

Erika
quote:
Originally posted by justacat:

You know, though, I would LOVE them to knock one out of the park with Pour le Monde. The mind reels at the killer video that could be made of that...who to direct...maybe Wim Wenders...for some reason images from "Wings of Desire" always come to mind...


you are brilliant (and I loved that movie)! didn't Wenders direct U2's video for "Faraway/So Close"? or maybe I'm making that up

I like the She Called Up video. I think it's cute. not every video has to be a cinematic masterpiece or a deep-thought-provoking montage of images and symbols. given the somber subject matter of the song, I think they took the right approach to this video.
quote:
Originally posted by Paināporo:
Some of you guys sound like you believe a more "normal" CH video would get airplay. I think "Don't Stop Now" was a very straight forward, professional looking video but I don't recall it getting much airplay anywhere.


Erm, I have NEVER seen the official Don't Stop Now clip, despite my best efforts to watch music shows. The only "clip" I've seen is on the bonus TOE disk which uses an image gallery for the clip for the song... please tell me that is not the official clip?

Cheers

Andy
Yikes! Hopefully this isn't the "official video". If it's just a clip meant for the website, similar to the audience-heavy version of distant sun, I say it's fine. I mean, who really cares about the quality of those videos.

Even though the idea behind this video is cute, for some reason it turned out to be unwatchable. Just doesn't work at all. On a positive note, I bet the video is the cheapest music video ever made!

Let's hope they are working on a real video for this song.
Terrible... Frowner Feels like your at a school concert when the only people that can sit through it are the parents, anyone else finds it excruciating. I wish they re-recorded this song for the single as well, IMO the faster, piano-driven live version of SCU is much better than the 'airey / light' version on the album.
Having children doesn't mean you will automatically love this video. I have 2 children. I have sat through dance recitals, band performances, junior high school plays, choir concerts, etc. If my children weren't participating, I wouldn't be there. I'm just being honest, ok?

Saying that, I really don't like this video. I found it totally boring. The kids may be cute but one viewing is enough for me.

After the really creative touches of the Don't Stop Now video, it was a real let down for me.

The song, I like. The video, not so much.
I finally watched this myself and was wondering what it would be like.

I love the song but one look at the video is enough. Glad I wasn't looking forward to much because it would not have delivered. I never have enjoyed watching a bunch of random kids no matter how much I have always loved children and having two of my own.

Let's hope the next one is better.

Lorrie
there's a lot of negativity about a video that's pretty positive, considering the subject.

i think, like lester II, all the way back on the first page of this, that they did it as a contrast to the darkess of the theme, just like the jaunty tune itself.

me thinks that perhaps writing about it in more serious terms may not come until later, like hole in the river. Takes time to process, ya know?

Add Reply

Post
    All times London, UK.

    ©1998-Eternity, Frenz.com. All post content is the copyrighted work of the person who wrote it. Please don't copy, reproduce, or publish anything you see written here without the author's permission.
×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×
×