Overdub/edit on FTTW DVD?!?

Oh my gosh, you're totally right. They did correct the lyric in the second verse! I didn't notice it. It's weird that they would do that...does that mean they corrected every 'goof'? I'm disappointed if they did...isn't there rather an amusing one in Sister Madly?

Oooooh! How very intriguing!

I've just checked my VHS version and it's the same wide angle of Neil at that pivotal moment as we hear him sing "No, I could not escape/A plea from the heart/Mysterious sympathy". There is no way we can see exactly what he is singing at that moment.

I guess we'll find out if it has been overdubbed on the new CD...can any of those people lucky enough to have this confirm if the lyric is/is not corrected?

Overdubbing live DVDs/albums ain't exactly a shock. I mean, it would be unusual not to find a live release being tampered with. As for FTTW, I've no doubt that Neil did go in and overdubbed/corrected a line here and there. And what of it? Are we so anal retentive that we're going to let that prohibit our enjoyment of the disc? I like to think not.

Then again, there isn't any pleasing you trainspotters out there. Just remember one thing: Who Cares?

I'm not sure - I listen to a lot of bootlegs and i've sorta become used to little goof ups like that. I like things to be exactly the way they were. Having said that, we should all be REALLY EXCITED that this is getting such a good and comprehensive release at all. So I've got no real reason to complain.

Sounds like it was done the first time around... meaning it's probably they didn't have the goofed up version to master (or transfer to DVD or whatever it's called!)

I'm with AGM155 though... I like the goofs.. I'm not complaining if they're edited out, but I'd prefer them to be left in. I'm kinda used to the odd goof up... it's terribly human!

In saying that, I can't wait... and doubt I would have noticed had it not been pointed out to me!!

I wouldn't have noticed this either. Whatever makes the final cut of the DVD is fine with me.

Hey, I'll still enjoy the DVD plenty. It's not as if I'll be poring over the original bootleg looking for changes, and booing my TV screen.

One reason I mention bring it up is that it just doesn't seem like Neil. The Recurring Dream bonus live disc went to some lengths to point out that the tracks were taken directly from soundboard recordings, with no edits or overdubs. Apparently this live authenticity was important to them...so why did they abandon this sensibility for FTTW? It's worth pondering to me.

I thought the edit would be worth pointing out to some. But for the "what you don't know can't hurt you" crowd, forgive me for being savvy enough to notice this! I don't want to rain on your parade. Again, I'm really looking forward to this DVD and will enjoy it immensely.

yep me too, a gig is a gig, mistake's an all, overdubbing em is just plain ol silly

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The Recurring Dream bonus live disc went to some lengths to point out that the tracks were taken directly from soundboard recordings, with no edits or overdubs.

I guess as they didn't come from multitracks that overdubbing a fluffed line might have been pretty hard. I can understand things being fixed up for the DVD, it's going to stand as the definitive live concert, apart from the strictly limited Recurring Dream live disc, this DVD/CD is going to be the only live recording of the band to be commercially available.

A fluffed line redone doesn't really worry me. Maybe if it was a whole guitar solo or something along that line I might think differently.

Speaking of fluffs, Sister Madly on the Recurring Dream disc has never struck me as funny, rather extremely uncomfortable and black. Hester didn't sound as if he was joking, to me he sounded really depressed and irritable.

I'm not sure now...

I have the DVD and CD now... its fantastic!

I've just gone back to listen to my mean to me on the Don't Scream It's Over bootleg... and you'll notice they have the private universe jam at the beginning, which in itself is an overdub.
That was added for the television and vhs, on the dvd there is no intro like that, you hear a glimpse of some intro music being played over the PA as they walk on stage. No private universe stuff. You'll also hear in that Private Universe jam, the opening to Fall At Your Feet as well. Which is not on the VHS but I believe was in the original television broadcast of it. Another overdub. Then when I get to the chorus of Mean to Me, I find Neil's delivery of that very rushed and sounds to me, like they may have edited it during the television broadcast. Why? I have no idea. But when I did watch Metallica's S&M concert on Channel 10 many years back in the 2nd chorus of Master of Puppets he swore (i know because my dvd has him swear) instead they played the same first chorus over the top.

So....thats my two cents on the matter. I dont think it was an overdub. There are too many little mistakes in the concert musically that they would go back to fix that and only that. I think it was audio mistake to begin with on the television broadcast which I think is the same audio as the Don't Scream It's Over bootleg

As they say: History is written by the winners...

Saying that, the tiny streaming screen on the site is a far sight better quality than my Channel 10 taped VHS from back in 96. Looking quite shoddy now.

One can only imagine the quality of the DVD.

Mind you nothing beats the feeling of actually being there. That will last forever.

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing regarding quality Stuart, and that's without having seen it before!!

Imagine that quality full screen!!! Amazing!

1 Month!!!

Not sure if/why it was overdubbed but fear not, there are PLENTY of other bum moments on the disc! Trust me, a lot of goofs are still there.

Two weeks to go

For what it's worth I've had a quick listen and the bit where Paul loses one of his drumsticks in Locked Out is still in there.

Interesting reading guys. I will have to agree with the general consensus that, in the overall big picture, it won't matter too much just as long as we have the full concert(so to speak)nicely mixed.

I also have the "Don't Scream It's Over" bootleg and enjoyed the Private Universe jam intro; a great walk-on tune. Its probably the only thing I would miss but only because I've been conditioned to it for so long. Roll on the 20th November already!!