Now We're Getting Somewhere video ?

Sorry girls:

"They were particularly unhappy with "Now We're Getting Somewhere" filmed later in mountains near Melbourne for under Aus$5000. Scenes of Crowded House carousing in the snow are interspersed with handheld footage of the band on stage"

From Something So Strong.

Roll Eyes
Man, I am sad now. Well I can still fantasize that they were at the big Ski restort by Anchorage - Alyeska.

Mona - I figured it out from the Catch 22 interview - they were in Anchorage. Neil and Tim need to come back to Anchorage and do a show. *sigh* I wish.

It was nice to know that they were that close once.
Try not to be sad--yes Crowded House were definitely in Alaska once to play a gig and even the Beatles were in Alaska once (stop over on the way to Japan) add that all together with Robin Zander being born in Alaska and you have a veritable cornocopia of rock bands passing through your beautiful state. Feel better now? Good. Wink
It's a girl who is named Gill Civil. If memory serves me correctly, she's someone that Nick and Paul asked in to do keyboards for this while Neil was away Apparently rock keyboards were a little 'over her head' so she wasn't around long.

At the danger of this thread morphing into "Crowded House--the trials and tribulations of finding a permanent keyboard player" lets head back to the video and just say, how exciting for her that her stint is permanently marked by her appearance in this video.

Valley---Crowded House were in Winnipeg 3 times (4 gigs) and I missed them all---and I was HERE, so I feel yer pain, baby. I feel yer pain. Razzer
Thank you for the solidarity Martine. We can commiserate.

I also almost got to see Cary Grant, when he was doing his Evening With Cary Grant, but unfortunately he died. I was going to see him in Conneticut.

Neil, Cary, Robin and the Beatles. Somewhere something's got to give.
Valley, you and I have to go off somewhere and start a Cary Grant web page, I swear!!! My friend's mom was an elevator operator in the 60s for a swank hotel and Cary Grant stayed there and took her elevator several times---he was very nice to her and asked her her name and used it each time he got on the elevator sigh......SORRY MAJORLY OFF TOPIC

I think you can quite clearly see on this video, that the keyboard player is definitely NOT Sir Eddie of Rayner and the SSS does mention Gill by name so.....discuss..... Wink
I really hate to say this, as much as I love these guys, but every time I see this video it literally makes me ANGRY how terrible it is.

It's a shame, the song is just one of the best tunes on the first album. Maybe the second best song on there.

I love goofy and charming home movie footage of the lads such as this beautiful intro bit to "Mean To Me", but you can't just slap a batch of that together and call it the video. The "Now We're Getting Somewhere" video is really infuriating in terms of how far short it falls of what the song deserves.
My very first concert (and over age sneak (aside from the TAB)).

The snow shots were filmed at Mt Buller, on I think Burnt Hut Spur or shakey knees or at least the north side of the mountain somewhere from a video study.

The concert (and some pre concert filming) was shot at Kooroora Hotel, which is still there. I know because I lucked into being there for dinner and later show. It was billed as 'Crowded House ex Split Enz' on the door. I went with some over age ppl for dinner with a mate, and we hid so we could stay for the night antics. Whilst I wasn't that familiar at the time, Neil said hello at the salad bar (not many ppl there for dinner). Priceless looks on security as we left, wtf 15yo's! A night I'll never forget.
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Originally posted by Beajai:
Yes, Mr S, it is a stinker of a clip.
But it does look like they're having fun, and I still would've liked to be there and throw some snowballs myself.
I always thought it owed something to this clip

Interesting precedent. I want that guy's damn coat. Is that Stu or...or...Stu plays the drums. The guitarist is...Wendell or something.

I want Wendell's coat.

Thing is, that Police clip is a good-looking professional-looking video masquerading as home movie. Our lads turned in a home-movie looking clip for use as a proper video.

It's fun to see them having fun! I don't begrudge 'em that, but, it's not up to snuff for them. It's not up to snuff.

I know they weren't particularly impressed with the video as artistic medium, and on that level (with so much MTV pretension going on), their lackadaisical attitude is in some way refreshing. But can you imagine the damage done, had that song - one of the 2 best on the album - had a video that looked like it gave half a dang.

It's all water under the bridge at this point. But the effect lingers in that, almost all of their videos...I like to watch! This one...it's hard to watch.
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Originally posted by Mr. Sadly:
[Interesting precedent. I want that guy's damn coat. Is that Stu or...or...Stu plays the drums. The guitarist is...Wendell or something.

I want Wendell's coat.



*teehee* You must mean that nice black coat of Andy Summers. Big Grin
I don't care how daggy or bad the NWGS vid is.
It was perfect for the band that we loved at the time. It expressed everything and anything that Crowded House were back then. Daggy and wonderful. Everything they did was around here (Melbourne) - trams and streets and buildings that we (Melbournians) remember from that time.
This was our Crowded House - our crazy, loveable, daggy dag boys. We didn't care what the rest of the world thought (and still don't, actually). Smiler
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Originally posted by adidasman:
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Originally posted by Kazzie:
I don't care how daggy or bad the NWGS vid is.
It was perfect for the band that we loved at the time. It expressed everything and anything that Crowded House were back then. Daggy and wonderful. Everything they did was around here (Melbourne) - trams and streets and buildings that we (Melbournians) remember from that time.
This was our Crowded House - our crazy, loveable, daggy dag boys. We didn't care what the rest of the world thought (and still don't, actually). Smiler
See? That states the dilemma quite succinctly. I think that's the way they wanted to be seen, too - but, if you're going to approach things that way, you can't then turn round and complain when the rest of the world don't "get it." That's how I often feel with Neil, to be honest - he makes career choices that are often poorly thought out, or even naive, then gets upset when his poor choices don't work. I don't begrudge him the right to make any decision he wants, but he can't (or shouldn't) then turn back and blame someone else for the aftermath. And I also think that, for those who already had loyalty and affection for CH, that clip might have seemed cute or appealing; to the rest of the universe, though, it was a badly-shot, badly-conceived home movie masquerading as a music video (much as "Weather With You" was). Maybe that plays well for the home crowd, but for everyone else it's like looking at someone else's high school yearbook. If they just wanted to appeal to Melbournians, that's nice. But none of that means a thing to the rest of us.

It is a really good song, though.
Hey lets not dirty the name of the "Weather With You" video! I agree completely that "Now We're Getting Somewhere" is a perfect song that is totally undeserved by a nearly unwatchable music video. The video for "Weather With You", however, is perfectly suited to the song and a lot of fun to watch whether you're a fan or not! The only issue I have with the WWY video is that they used the terrible radio edit version with the chorus jammed in between the verses. That piss poor edit *almost* ruins the experience.
I'm not complaining about what the rest of the world thinks about the video - or do you mean Neil Finn and the rest of the band?. Mr Sadly and others gave their opinion on what they think of the video. I just gave you mine. I don't have issue with anything they said, I merely stated that it didn't matter to us that it was rubbish - or would be seen as rubbish 20 years later. We didn't care.
I wish I could transport you all back to Melbourne late 1980's. You would have all loved it to pieces.
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Originally posted by Paināporo:
The only issue I have with the WWY video is that they used the terrible radio edit version with the chorus jammed in between the verses. That piss poor edit *almost* ruins the experience.

oooooo I hate that edit. Oooooo I hate that edit!!

I will say that of course, I've got no pron;e, with those who enjoy...well, anything really! Big Grin But certainly no problem with those who enjoy a video by a band I love. Even if I've some personal reservations towards that particular video.

I look at a video like that on the same level as a typographical error. It can happen to anyone.
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Originally posted by Kazzie:
I'm not complaining about what the rest of the world thinks about the video - or do you mean Neil Finn and the rest of the band?. Mr Sadly and others gave their opinion on what they think of the video. I just gave you mine. I don't have issue with anything they said, I merely stated that it didn't matter to us that it was rubbish - or would be seen as rubbish 20 years later. We didn't care.
I wish I could transport you all back to Melbourne late 1980's. You would have all loved it to pieces.
I have no doubt that I'd love Melbourne, 20 years ago or right now. All I mean is that as a music video - which is, first and foremost, a marketing device - that video fails miserably. I understand that it didn't matter to you that it was or would be seen as rubbish; what I'm saying is that what was quaint and fun to you was almost certainly tedious and amateurish to the rest of the world. Thus the video didn't accomplish what it was (or should have been) designed to do. I feel the same way about the WWY video, though it's much more watchable than NWGS -- I don't see how the WWY clip would have attracted new fans to CH. For those of us who already loved them, though, it was a merry romp at the beach.
The first time I watched the "Now We're Getting Somewhere" video was on the I Like to Watch video tape. I thought something had gone wrong with my VCR! I had to stop it, rewind it, and try it in a different machine before I figured out that the video distortion was actually intentional! What were they thinking?!
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Originally posted by adidasman:
I don't see how the WWY clip would have attracted new fans to CH.


I can only speak for myself, but that's exactly what happened to me ! I was born in 85 so I couldn't follow the band from the beginning, and my parents haven't been fans so they didn't influence me. The first thing I saw from Crowded House was the WWY clip around the time the song was released, and I remember that I liked the style of this video ! Many years later (shortly before the reunion - perfect timing !) while doing things on the internet, I remembered this clip and decided to look it up on YouTube. I was so happy to be able to see that one again, and while I was there I also watched the live version from the farewell concert and many other clips - and so I was hooked... a few days later I bought the DVD of that concert, and a few more days later I bought the first four albums ! So technically speaking that video did make me a fan, as it was the very reason why I went to YouTube in the first place (and there I started to really "discover" the band).
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Originally posted by jabchick85:
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Originally posted by adidasman:
I don't see how the WWY clip would have attracted new fans to CH.


I can only speak for myself, but that's exactly what happened to me ! I was born in 85 so I couldn't follow the band from the beginning, and my parents haven't been fans so they didn't influence me. The first thing I saw from Crowded House was the WWY clip around the time the song was released, and I remember that I liked the style of this video ! Many years later (shortly before the reunion - perfect timing !) while doing things on the internet, I remembered this clip and decided to look it up on YouTube. I was so happy to be able to see that one again, and while I was there I also watched the live version from the farewell concert and many other clips - and so I was hooked... a few days later I bought the DVD of that concert, and a few more days later I bought the first four albums ! So technically speaking that video did make me a fan, as it was the very reason why I went to YouTube in the first place (and there I started to really "discover" the band).
That's a great story - and good for you. Whatever gets somebody to discovering CH is a very fine thing.
Oh boy - did we decide that the music video took place in the northern or southern hemisphere?

May I say that I'm more heartbroken about the death of Michael Jackson than I thought I was going to be. The relevance here is that VH1 played a retrospective including his videos in order. Music videos developed fast and it seems each one sought to be more interesting than and distinct from what had been done in the past. And this antipodes band was not MJ - not in the position to spend a million dollar plus.

Each CH video, in consequence, is a perfect work of art - being created with the resources available and yet conveying, always with our opportunity of interpretation, exactly what the artists wished to say.
Totally disagree with 'Weather with you' comment ("amateurish to the rest of the world")..it was the perfect vehicle-especially the UK. Where many people like Home & Away and Neighbours (all those horrid aussie shows) and seemed to enjoy the Australian beach culture during their gloomy Winter.

The clip for 'Weather' was shown some amazing amount of times in the UK- and I truly don't think that "Weather" would of made it to #7 in the UK without the massive video play of that clip.

The amount of mail and emails that (still) comes via the office (especially from UK and Holland) around the video clip is astounding. It still adds new fans to the band and helps Woodface tick over the units
Gryph
Sorry Gryph, but I am hazy about last week let alone 1986. What I do know is that immediately on return I bought two 45's M2M and NWGS and the album wasn't in store yet. This would suggest start of season in June inline with the album release date.
Yeah June would make sense as there was a bit of activity around that month-the infamous Albert Park 'House' party, media launches in various states for the album. maybe you were waiting for the CD of the album which came out a bit after the vinyl release...

Anyway thanks I'll keep digging around, have about a dozen such dates to work out most 20 odd years after the gig happened.

cheers
PG
hey Gryph - totally agree about the weather with you clip.it's brilliant.it makes you feel as if you are almost hanging out with the band!

...have to disagree with you about neighbours though.I couldn't imagine life without it!

the only improvement would be some crowdies songs on the jukebox in harolds coffee shop though Big Grin

the guy who plays 'lucas' still reminds me of hessie.
Stuart
Yes it is a much loved show .... though I prefer Harold as Ted Douglas in Prisoner (Cell Block H)... he used to write a big chunk of the Prisoner episodes too.

And just so this is kept within the realms of Crowdies-Enz..... I remember when the Enz were touring Prisoner was an on-road favourite TV show. We all gathered around a TV set to see Nigels girlfriend Kylie as she guest starred on prisoner as the evil (but sweet faced)Angela Adams (12 episodes). Those were the days *GRIN*
Gryph

Still trying to lock in the date for the Kooroora CH gig....but had a successful day as I located where another 'missing in action' venue is located (the Marco Polo)Jan 87 tour... always nice to fill in the blanks.
Hmmm Soda

don't think that's right. (Hey I could be wrong). Here is what I think....someone feel free to correct me- as I really could be wrong.

After the 6 shows that CH did as special guests to OMD (the last one was Jan 7th 1987). The band brought Gill Civil on board for a SHORT time on keyboards. The first gig with her was Kramers, Melbourne on Jan 8th.

By February 16th 1987 Eddie was in the band and they all flew to LA (Joan Rivers show, Solid Gold etc...Eddie makes that on air comment about Marilyn McCoo's ripped dress -'great when it's finished')

I have one of our tour work sheets that is marked Feb 11th-14th 87 video shoot. So I'm assuming it was done over 1 or 2 of those days.

The only other snow date around this was January 24th 1987 but that is at Jindabyne.(NSW).

Hoping your school diary will have more details.
There usually isn't a lot of snow at Buller in
Feb.... so there is one hole in my scenario.

feel free to chime in anyone that can help us.... and thanks Soda appreciated

PG

p.s.- a friend of mine is bringing up every copy of JUKE magazine so I'm hoping their gig guide area will fill in some blanks too.

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