Neil's guitars, effects, amps

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Originally posted by WindowSills:
In Chicago, Neil using a black double cutaway Gretsch Jet, in addition to his usual guitars. I think it was used for "Say That Again".

Wow, I didn't know Neil used or played a double cutaway Gretsch Duo Jet. I've only seen him play the single cutaway black Duo Jet and red Jet Firebird.

Does anyone have any photos of Neil playing a double cutaway Gretsch Duo Jet?

I used to own a MIJ double cutaway Gretsch Duo Jet (G6128T-1962 Duo Jet w/ Bigsby). A fun guitar to play. It was as light as a feather too, due to the chambered semi-hollow body.

Cheers

Andy
Canberra, Australia

Andy, I'm by no means a guitar expert, but would it be this one?

There are some closer shots there too (thanks to Craig for the pix).

I think these were taken during Nobody Wants To - IIRC it was the only song that night where Neil played this particular guitar. I had a very close view, and I remember that guitar - I was fascinated by the areas of wear along the top of the frets - I assume it's a vintage one - made me think about its previous life

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Originally posted by Tracy:
For those wondering, Neil only has one goldtop and it's the same one he's always had. I asked John Walsh and he said Neil's only ever had the one.

I know that Neil has a goldtop. What is the other Gibson with finger plate that he plays with?

I remember seeing the double-cutaway Duo Jet last week in Chicago. I don't remember what song he used it for, but it wasn't Nobody Wants To (they didn't play that song).

The goldtop really is pretty beat up--it has a great vibe. I do wonder if it's been restored once or twice--beat up as it looked, it looked to be in better shape than it was in the Sessions at W.54th DVD.

I was sorry not to see the vintage Casino. although I understand they can be a real pain to manage onstage because of their tendency to feed back. That would have been an asset for Silent House, though, wouldn't it?

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Originally posted by surferlisa:

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Originally posted by Tracy:
For those wondering, Neil only has one goldtop and it's the same one he's always had. I asked John Walsh and he said Neil's only ever had the one.

I know that Neil has a goldtop. What is the other Gibson with finger plate that he plays with?

What I was saying is that he has only had ONE goldtop. Some have thought that he had two and we had a discussion about this awhile ago. Don't know about the Gibson. You'll have to ask John Walsh or Neil.

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Originally posted by Tracy:

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Originally posted by surferlisa:

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Originally posted by Tracy:
For those wondering, Neil only has one goldtop and it's the same one he's always had. I asked John Walsh and he said Neil's only ever had the one.

I know that Neil has a goldtop. What is the other Gibson with finger plate that he plays with?

What I was saying is that he has only had ONE goldtop. Some have thought that he had two and we had a discussion about this awhile ago. Don't know about the Gibson. You'll have to ask John Walsh or Neil.

I'm pretty sure that i know what it is now, I think a Gibson Les Paul Deluxe Gold Top.

Thanks Lisa

Just looking at John walshs myspace and I think Neil has added some effects to his board
on the top it looks as though its a memory man!!
then into his dd-3 then most prob a reverb unit
I have a line6 verbzilla that on the octo setting sounds like the effect on 'a sigh'

neil's got two goldtops. both are 70's les paul deluxe models.

GUITAR ONE:
the one he's always had - no pickguard, black ring around the toggle switch and non original tuners. probably schallers.
this one is the more 'worn' looking one with the crazed finish. (Looks really new in the split enz message to my girl video)

As somebody mentioned before, the neck has been broken at the headstock. You can tell because there are shots of it on the '96 farewell gig where the volute area has been clearly refinished darker (almost black). this is typical of a neck repair.
i've got videos of a '88 melbourne show where the neck volute area was still the original colour (not black). So it must have been broken some time in between. Its also got a pancake body. You can see it from the close ups on the farewell dvd during the world where you live guitar solo.

GUITAR TWO:
The second one seems to be new. New as in, i've only started seeing it since the live aid gig. It sports the pickguard, a cream coloured ring around the toggle switch and the original green tulip tuners. Its finish is in much better condition and doesnt have all the crazing.

Both have the extra rings/pickup surrounds around the mini humbuckers. Both are probably early 70s as gibson only put these rings around the mini humbuckers during that period. Doesnt matter what John Walsh or Neil says - neither one of the guitars are from 68. Gibson didnt have volutes, pancake bodies or the extra pickup rings on the Les Paul Deluxe until early 70s.

If you check out the photos in this thread - you can see he's using BOTH guitars at the same gig: http://frenzforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7601061171/m/2621074924

yeah i know - its a little weird that i've been taking notice of such details for the last ten years.

Don't see the pickguard on the second LP.

Also always figured those non-stock tuners to be Grovers.

According to John Walsh, Neil has only one Goldtop. When I asked him if Neil had more than one Goldtop he replied, "Neil's 1969 Gibson Gold Top is the same one he's always had, he only owns the one."

Maybe Neil was using Mark's guitar?

I did ask John Walsh about the guitar that i was on about he said that Neil has two 1971 Gibson Deluxe Goldtop.

Which are different to the Gibson Goldtop.

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Originally posted by alucidor:
Andy, I'm by no means a guitar expert, but would it be this one?

There are some closer shots there too (thanks to Craig for the pix).

I think these were taken during Nobody Wants To - IIRC it was the only song that night where Neil played this particular guitar. I had a very close view, and I remember that guitar - I was fascinated by the areas of wear along the top of the frets - I assume it's a vintage one - made me think about its previous life

alucidor,

You're a legend! Thanks very much for the pic. I had no idea Neil had a double cutaway Duo Jet. Awesome!

Cheers

Andy
Canberra, Australia

just won myself a boss VB - 2 off ebay !!! not cheap but will be a nice addition to the family

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Originally posted by robbie:
Just looking at John walshs myspace and I think Neil has added some effects to his board
on the top it looks as though its a memory man!!
then into his dd-3 then most prob a reverb unit
I have a line6 verbzilla that on the octo setting sounds like the effect on 'a sigh'

which pic can u see it in ??

Page 7
4th down
Looking a bit more closely I think hes put the vb-2 at the end!after the dd-3!
Not sure what the pedal is after the Hotcake
it could be another distortion?
Page 8 top 3rd along it a blue pedal could be a Plextortion!or another type of boutique pedal

I have another question for you all. What model is the elecrtic 12 string that Mark Hart used during the together alone / fttw time? It's black and I cant see and branding marks on it.

Any help?

i have had a look over this thread and I haven't seen anyone post on it, just the maton fyrbyrd.

The 12 string that Mark used to use was a Jerry Jones. Jerry Jones makes guitars based on popular Danelectro models of the 50's and 60's with higher quality than either the originals or the reissues (which came after JJ began making their versions).

Cheers, I thought it looked like a Danelectro but they dont have a 12 string.

Next question (This one may be a bit harder).
How do you get the sort of atmospheric effect that Neil does on the end of Silent House and Suffer Never (You can see them do it really well on the 7 world collide dvd). I reckon its cool. So what pedals would I need to pull it off?

Here's an older shot of the double-cut Gretsch DuoJet, taken from a 1995 performance by Neil and Tim of "Ballroom Blitz," posted on another thread by Hexed (and if you haven't seen the clip, you really owe it to yourself to take a look--it's a hoot).

With Neil's guitars/equipment, what did he use around the time of Luton and what equipment gave him that kick-a** sound?