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Originally posted by Gunnar:
Wow, this great thread is still going. This is good stuff - we should consolidate all the details Smiler

I wanted to add, that Neil is also using a UniVibe (Dunlop).

and he uses Jim Dunlop .73 and .88 picks and Kyser capos.

* The red Gretsch (Firebird) is a '58 (or '59)
* The Les Paul Goldtop/Deluxe? I don't know, it's confusing - it'ss most likely from the early 70's...I don't believe they didn't do the mini-humbuckers until '69. Can't believe the fact I saw an identical one in a local shop ('73) Goldtop, mini-humbuckers and even the black plastic around the switch - too bad I didn't have $1500 sitting around


Neil's Les Paul Goldtop is a '69. This comes from John Walsh, Neil's guitar Tech.
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Originally posted by Mandy:
Alfred, in last months Audio Technology magazine, there is an article on Split Enz. There is also a photo of Neil's guitar pedals (some 10 or so he used at the concerts!), which I'm sure is what you were after.


Any chance of yourself or some other kind person posting that pic here?? Never could figure out what he used in pedals besides the Wah & HotCake.
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The Martin guitar Neil plays on the Edible Flowers video is a Martin "Graham Nash" signature model: all Mahogany body...looks amazing, and probably sounds the same ("only" around USD 5000 according to their website).


Are you sure it's the Graham Nash? Neil's doesn't match the photos I've seen of it - his doesn't have the black decorated headstock, and the binding looks different. My dad has a mahogany Martin DC15E, it's a beautiful guitar.
i scored a Hotcake 2 months ago and love it, tho it does sound rather darker than i'd imagined.

seems to work best as either a darkish overdrive or as a coloured boost before an amp that's already breaking up.

wasn't he using a blue Boss vibrato pedal at some point recently?

i also think i saw a Hughes & Kettner Tube Rotosphere in there on the Sessions at West 54th DVD.

*waits patiently for someone to scan in and post the pic of Neil's pedalboard*
Okay, Neil opened and closed tonight's webcast with an old Epiphone Casino; Mark played it at some point as well. Is this a new guitar for Neil? (Or is it Mark's? The new picture of Mark at the Crowded House website shows him playing the Casino.)

The Casino is closely associated with the Beatles--John, Paul, and George each had one, and Paul continues to play his in concert and in the studio to this day (it's all over his last album). Given Neil's clear fondness for Beatlesque sounds, it's not surprising that he would find the Casino appealing. But I've never seen him with one before, or heard it mentioned that he had one. Anyone know anything about it? This was pretty clearly a guitar from the sixties--the burst is more of an iced-tea than the tobacco sunburst associated with John's Casino that Epiphone still features today. Neil's guitar looks more like George's (although it has a different trem on it).
Welsh Dan its the Boss VB-2,(its a bit of a holy grail pedal now) very hard to get hold of as they are disscontinued!! on e-bay you could proberbly get one for £175-250!!! yes that much!!
alternative you could use the elelctro-harmonix delux memory man that has a vibrato on it!(it sounds very similar)£169
hope this helps
Welsh Dan,
Im a guitarist myself!
and I have the VB-2 and the Memory Man, when I heard the tracks no doubt he was using some studio outboard-software gear that studios use but having seen him live a few times he switches the VB-2 on for a few songs ie-Locked out,ect, the Memory Man has a lovely analog wash of delay and vibrato, hit a few notes and its instant Dont Stop Now!!!Riff!!
Though the VB-2 is the real deal!! its kinda got a less harsh vib to it,when two guitars are playing together one straight and Vibrato you get a nice ocilation(Spelling!)spread!and create some interesting soundscapes!
Well its not as dry as the VB-2 but it has a lovely tone to it
here is a link to listen to it

http://www.ehx.com/ehx2/Default.asp?q=f&f=%2FCatalog%2F...ucts%2F01%5FEH%5FDVD

if that doesnt work go to www.ehx.com go to effects, go to dvd then media and pick the memory man,
But please check out other pedals
there are some nice boutique (home made) pedals out there after all its only wires and electric parts in a box I know when I last looked there were people making vibrato pedals and some of them are very nice and you have the luxury of it being one of a kind!
So I would put Boss VB-2 into a search engine on ebay and you should see some nice pedals come up
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Originally posted by Welsh Dan:
Cheers for all the info Robbie!

You're so right about the VB-2, it's nigh on impossible to get hold of one now! You're lucky to have one! Am a bit dubious about getting one from e-bay, so I'm thinking of getting a Memeory Man Deluxe - you say it compares favourably with the VB-2 yeh? Sound wise?


most of my pedal puchases have all been ebay and now have a swag of things i would never have got close to owning, usually at a very cheap price too. don't be afraid !!
Folks,

Being a gear-head, this is the best thread ever! Thanks for sharing all this! Big Grin

PS: there was a series on ABC Australia a couple years ago which interviewed famous guitarists, explored their gear, how they came up with riffs and sounds etc.

I've forgotten what the show was called, but I saw the Angus Young episode a while back and loved it (I'm not even an AC/DC fan). I think the production company was called Chieftan (or big Chief)... they used the Indian motorbike logo... It would be brilliant if they had of done a Finn episode.

PPS: I owned a couple of MIJ Gretsches until earlier this year - a White Falcon and a black double-cutaway Duo Jet (both sold due to a relationship break-up).

I bought and imported them both from the USA from eBay and got them for LESS than half the price I would pay for them in Australia, even after paying expensive freight costs, GST and import taxes.

Cheers

Andy
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Originally posted by RavingChat:
Well the first electric he bought (in Soho, London, aged 19, Day 1 with Split Enz)was a Yamaha. Can't remember the model number, but it had a double cutaway. You can see it in early Split Enz concert pics. You can still get them because I saw one in a guitar shop in Singapore a couple of years ago.


The Yamaha solid body electric Neil played in his early Split Enz days was a Yamaha SG 800 series guitar.

The SG 500, SG 700 and SG 800 are essentially affordable versions of the SG1000/2000/3000s.

The main differences are cosmetic. The SG500/700/800 have less binding, simpler headstock designs, open or plastic covered pickups and chrome instead of gold hardware.

The cheaper models still share the same mahogany body and set neck as the more expensive models, but the 800 has dot markers on the fretboard instead of trapezoid inlays.

In the day, the Yamaha SG series posed a big threat to the traditional Gibson Les Paul market and the guitar became very popular in the 1980's.

High profile players using Yamaha SG guitars include Carlos Santana, and in the UK, Midge Ure (UltraVox & Visage) and the guys from Big Country. There was also this young Kiwi chap playing in his brother's band...

Hope that is of help or interest to someone, somewhere.

Cheers

Andy
Canberra, Australia
[QUOTE]Originally posted by bloodshift:
This is a great thread, since I'm a VERY amateur guitarist myself. Neil's Les Paul Deluxe is to me the second most iconic musical instrument in existence--only Paul McC.'s Hofners beat it in my eyes.

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You'll notice in the KCRW broadcast from last month that Neil has 2 Les Paul goldtops (or maybe Mark has one of his own?).

There's one track where Mark and Neil are playing one each I think. One looks quite fresh and the older looking one has gained a pick guard that it sorely needed... I'm assuming that's the '68 Neils had for years and years.
I think Mark also has his own goldtop, his is the shinier new looking one...I think there was a mention a few pages back that Neil's now playing a '71 goldtop, having broken the headstock of his '68 a few too many times (after reading about how the angle of the headstock and the truss rodd makes that part at the top of the neck particularly fragile it I've stopped laying my LP on its back!).
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Originally posted by WindowSills:
In Chicago, Neil using a black double cutaway Gretsch Jet, in addition to his usual guitars. I think it was used for "Say That Again".


Wow, I didn't know Neil used or played a double cutaway Gretsch Duo Jet. I've only seen him play the single cutaway black Duo Jet and red Jet Firebird.

Does anyone have any photos of Neil playing a double cutaway Gretsch Duo Jet?

I used to own a MIJ double cutaway Gretsch Duo Jet (G6128T-1962 Duo Jet w/ Bigsby). A fun guitar to play. It was as light as a feather too, due to the chambered semi-hollow body.

Cheers

Andy
Canberra, Australia
Andy, I'm by no means a guitar expert, but would it be this one?

There are some closer shots there too (thanks to Craig for the pix).

I think these were taken during Nobody Wants To - IIRC it was the only song that night where Neil played this particular guitar. I had a very close view, and I remember that guitar - I was fascinated by the areas of wear along the top of the frets - I assume it's a vintage one - made me think about its previous life Wink
I remember seeing the double-cutaway Duo Jet last week in Chicago. I don't remember what song he used it for, but it wasn't Nobody Wants To (they didn't play that song).

The goldtop really is pretty beat up--it has a great vibe. I do wonder if it's been restored once or twice--beat up as it looked, it looked to be in better shape than it was in the Sessions at W.54th DVD.

I was sorry not to see the vintage Casino. although I understand they can be a real pain to manage onstage because of their tendency to feed back. That would have been an asset for Silent House, though, wouldn't it?
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Originally posted by surferlisa:
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Originally posted by Tracy:
For those wondering, Neil only has one goldtop and it's the same one he's always had. I asked John Walsh and he said Neil's only ever had the one.


I know that Neil has a goldtop. What is the other Gibson with finger plate that he plays with?


What I was saying is that he has only had ONE goldtop. Some have thought that he had two and we had a discussion about this awhile ago. Don't know about the Gibson. You'll have to ask John Walsh or Neil.
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Originally posted by Tracy:
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Originally posted by surferlisa:
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Originally posted by Tracy:
For those wondering, Neil only has one goldtop and it's the same one he's always had. I asked John Walsh and he said Neil's only ever had the one.


I know that Neil has a goldtop. What is the other Gibson with finger plate that he plays with?



What I was saying is that he has only had ONE goldtop. Some have thought that he had two and we had a discussion about this awhile ago. Don't know about the Gibson. You'll have to ask John Walsh or Neil.



I'm pretty sure that i know what it is now, I think a Gibson Les Paul Deluxe Gold Top.

Thanks Lisa
neil's got two goldtops. both are 70's les paul deluxe models.

GUITAR ONE:
the one he's always had - no pickguard, black ring around the toggle switch and non original tuners. probably schallers.
this one is the more 'worn' looking one with the crazed finish. (Looks really new in the split enz message to my girl video)

As somebody mentioned before, the neck has been broken at the headstock. You can tell because there are shots of it on the '96 farewell gig where the volute area has been clearly refinished darker (almost black). this is typical of a neck repair.
i've got videos of a '88 melbourne show where the neck volute area was still the original colour (not black). So it must have been broken some time in between. Its also got a pancake body. You can see it from the close ups on the farewell dvd during the world where you live guitar solo.

GUITAR TWO:
The second one seems to be new. New as in, i've only started seeing it since the live aid gig. It sports the pickguard, a cream coloured ring around the toggle switch and the original green tulip tuners. Its finish is in much better condition and doesnt have all the crazing.

Both have the extra rings/pickup surrounds around the mini humbuckers. Both are probably early 70s as gibson only put these rings around the mini humbuckers during that period. Doesnt matter what John Walsh or Neil says - neither one of the guitars are from 68. Gibson didnt have volutes, pancake bodies or the extra pickup rings on the Les Paul Deluxe until early 70s.

If you check out the photos in this thread - you can see he's using BOTH guitars at the same gig: http://frenzforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7601061171/m/2621074924

yeah i know - its a little weird that i've been taking notice of such details for the last ten years.
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Originally posted by alucidor:
Andy, I'm by no means a guitar expert, but would it be this one?

There are some closer shots there too (thanks to Craig for the pix).

I think these were taken during Nobody Wants To - IIRC it was the only song that night where Neil played this particular guitar. I had a very close view, and I remember that guitar - I was fascinated by the areas of wear along the top of the frets - I assume it's a vintage one - made me think about its previous life Wink


alucidor,

You're a legend! Thanks very much for the pic. I had no idea Neil had a double cutaway Duo Jet. Awesome! Smiler

Cheers

Andy
Canberra, Australia
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Originally posted by robbie:
I have a very good pic of Neils pedal board


oh yeh its from Thekla Bristol
left to right Boss DD-3,Boss VB-2,Crowther Hotcake(Vintage switch),Crybaby Wahwah,Boss Tuner, Boss Acoustic Tuner

Acoustic DI
Pedal Power


Anyone know exactly which models of the Crybaby Wahwah, Boss Tuner, and Boss Acoustic Tuner appear in the photo? It's also difficult to tell how the various equipment is connected. robbie, if you have a larger and/or more resolute copy of the picture, can you better tell?
robbie,

Thanks for the additional info.

As you implied, there are a fair number of Dunlop Crybaby models on the market. From just the photo, it's certainly unclear which one Neil uses. Does anyone know (or has anyone asked)? Is it just the Dunlop Original Crybaby Wah (GCB95) or another model with additional features?

Shame also that the Boss VB-2 is so rare (meaning quite expensive).
To confound the issue even further, Neil's comments in the winter 2001 version of "Australian Musician" reveal:

"He's been using the same guitars for a while now, either a Gretsch Duo Jet or a Gibson Goldtop which he records through a Fender Champ mostly, or sometimes a Vox, Matchless, or Fender Twin Reverb. 'I've also had a bit of luck with just using a POD on some songs' said Finn."

http://www.australianmusician.com.au/mag/winter01/finn.html

Of course, by "records", the writer may be referring to Neil's studio vs. live setup. Within this thread, reference to several Fender amp models have been made, but I'm wondering if it's primarily the Fender Deluxe -- and Vox AC30 -- amps that he may be favoring out on the road these days.

I think it's also been the consensus that his recent choice of guitars has actually primarily been a Gibson Les Paul Goldtop Deluxe (rather than simply a Gibson Les Paul Goldtop), as well as a red Gretsch Firebird (and occasionally black Gretsch Duo Jet single and double cutaways).

Tough to keep all this straight! Eeker
I've kinda skimmed through the thread and didn't see THIS Les Paul mentioned at all. It's a honey sunburst guitar that he used a lot on the Finn Bros. tour of a couple of years back:



Here's a closeup of the Red Gretsch:



And a couple of not-so-closeups of the mini-humbucker Goldtop he used on the previous CH tour:





Sorry, couldn't resist:



And from the Wax Museum:

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Originally posted by theworldwhereyoulive:
Sorry to reserect this topic but i have a question.

I'm ripping the P90 pick ups out of my Gold Top Les Paul and I was wondering what I should replace them with to get that classic Finn sound? I'm thinking the Mini humbuckers or some 57 classics.

Anyone got some advice?


It's funny, but I think the P-90s can get that springy sort of Finn sound pretty well. I think that a lot of it is in the amp and amp settings. I use a Vox AD30VT, which has a lot of different amp models to choose from. I've got a Gibson clone Gold Top with P-90 cream colored soapbar pickups. Finn does use Vox amps, so that might be more of a key than humbuckers.

Obviously, Finn gets a decent Finn sound out of the mini-humbuckers. :g: But let's not forget that he gets that "Finn sound" out of a Strat and a Gretsch as well. Well, at least he's used the Strat in the past.

I love the sound of P-90s personally.

Check out the Vox if you get a chance. It's cheap and it has a single 12AX7 (ECC83 for Euro types) tube in the circuitry (everything else is solid state). I got mine virtually new in the States for $150 at a pawn shop. I think that the normal US street price is around $250. The 30 is plenty loud, but if you need more power, you can spend more money for a 50w or 100w model (the 100w model is a head unit only). If I remember correctly, Neil uses an AC30 and just mikes it through th PA. You can see it here at a Finn Bros. show:



You can also see the corner of a little Fender Champ right behind Neil's butt. Not sure if that was Tim's amp or whether it was part of a stereo setup for Neil. IIRC, the Vox was also part of the Crowded House stage setup.

Here's the Champ (I think it's a Champ):



Oh yeah, if you are just a home player, you can get the little Vox 15w Valtronix amp. It sounds the same as the bigger brothers but it just won't play as loud. I had that one for a month or two before i sold it to a friend to get the 30w model.

Probably the best amps under $300 out there. Certainly there are very few amps at that price point that have a tube anywhere in the mix. It has a really nice AC30 position on the amp modeling switch, plus it models the old classic Fenders (Bassman and Blackface twin). It also models several Marshalls (for copyright reasons they call them UK 70s, UK 80s, UK Modern) a Soldano (US HiGain), a 2 Dumble boutique amp (Boutique OD and Boutique CL) and there's a "NuMetal" position that might be a modern Marshall.

There's also a parallel Valvetronix line that is pricier. It's got the same looks as the classic AC30s. They have even more amp model positions and I think they also have full tube preamps and amps. I think that they are 60w and 120w respectively and I'm sure that they're quite expensive.

You should check out the cheaper series with your current guitar to see if that might turn the trick instead of ripping out your P90s. Considering how popular Vox amps are down under, you shouldn't have a problem finding one to take a spin with.
I was wondering if anyone has any more info on Neil's Les Pauls?

I took these photos at the Sherwood Forest gig last year and he clearly played two different Gold Tops (both with mini humbuckers so I assume Deluxe models). One had black plastic around the pick-up selector and one white.

Sherwood

Also, I have heard that Neil owns an actual 1959 Les Paul and has maybe used it on the Finn Bros tour. Anyone knwo if this is true - this would have cost him an absolute fortune!

Cheers Smiler
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Originally posted by Renishaw:

Also, I have heard that Neil owns an actual 1959 Les Paul and has maybe used it on the Finn Bros tour. Anyone knwo if this is true - this would have cost him an absolute fortune!

Cheers Smiler


If he does, it would be easy to tell the difference between what he usually plays in that the '59 used full-sized humbuckers (assuming that it hadn't been modified, which I would doubt that it would be). It would look like the one in my photo (more about this later).

Here is a gallery of some '59s (some with covers off):

http://www.lespaulforum.com/re...ist.php?exhibition=8


Here are two YouTube videos of two different orignal '59s. The first is owned by Larry DiMarzio.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...ibson-les-paul-elect

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...zYjM&feature=related

I can't find my Gibson Electrics book to verify, but I think that by '59, all '59s were sunburst. Some of them had flame tops but most didn't. The tops would have had more red than the sunburst in my closeup picture, but many of them would had had the red faded out after a few years to end up looking like the one in the picture. I think this had something to do with the UV protection of the dyes breaking down in sunlight.

Here's a thread in a les Paul forum that you will find interesting:

http://www.mylespaul.com/forum...5-neil-finns-lp.html

There's a picture of a well-worn Goldtop that I've never seen before (or don't remember seeing). Plus, they have reposted my photo there (which is just fine with me) and they've identified it as a '59 "Historic" model with an "iced tea" finish. Historic is different than Reissue, as the Reissue tries to be as close to the original as possible, with a higher price to boot, unless it's a Historic that's gone through Gibson's version of the Fender Custom Shop. The Historic series is a more "generic" and slightly cheaper repro of the original. There are a few different finishes you can choose from.

http://www.wildwoodguitars.com...paul/98164/98164.php

Also this, from a NZ guitar forum:

"NF does have a '59 burst - I've seen it. Held tantalisingly at arms length from me by his guitar tech. Which reminds me I was going to ask him (the guitar tech) for some photos of it, but at the time he was in the UK rehearsing for the Crowded House tour. I was quite impressed Neill bought the 59 with him as a backup guitar on the Finn Bros tour".

I suspect that what John Walsh was dangling was the guitar that I took a picture of. If you leave off the "Historic" designation, it's a '59, right? Either John was having a bit of fun, or the poster might have misunderstood. Of course, the guitar itself isn't a cheap one. The flame sunburst runs close to $6k (a plain Jane simple maple top runs about $3500). In guitar parlance, this is called a AA top. Demands quite a premium.
Thanks for the info Dave. Maybe we will have to get Neil himself to confirm if he does indeed own a 59 Burst. If he does, he was very brave taking it on tour with him! But, if so, it was great to know one was being played rather than stuck in a bank vault.
Just bought a 59 Reissue myself the other week and it is amazing.
If Neil wants to buy an actual '59 LP, all he has to do is come here to Nashville with a suitcase full of money, because George Gruhn has three of them right now. He'll need at least $300,000 (cause he might just want to pick up the one that was reduced from $350,000 to $299,000!). If you want to see them, go to www.gruhn.com and click on Inventory and then Gibson solidbodies and scroll down about halfway down the page.

For the rest of us, we can save some money and get a '60 LP for only $185,000 or go all Peter Frampton and get a nice '55 Black Beauty Custom (the one with three humbuckers) for a paltry $55,000...
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Originally posted by HiString:
Hi, this is my first post here and I'm hoping some knowledgeable people may be able to solve a mystery for me............I'm trying to find out what the guitar is that NF is playing in the video clip for Split Enz song "Straight Old Line" ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-m7HcNuFyA ), also the bass is the twin of the guitar.

Cheers Cool


I don't have an answer to your question but did want to thank you for posting the youtube link - I don't think I've ever seen that clip before, and it's fabulous. Big Grin
I dunno what ever happened to the strat. It just sort of disappeared post TOLM- a few of his early CH guitars did (no sign of the accoustic guitar Neil had in the Sister Madly film clip is an example). I'm kinda glad the strat is gone - I'm not a fan (no I'm not looking to pick a fight with Fender fans just not my cup of tea). I guess Neil just has his favourites or they got worn out.

I've seen a couple of telecasters at some of the CH 07/08 shows in Sydney, but Mark and guest guitarist Davy Lane played them.
This isn't a question regarding Neil's gear, but I figure this is the most likely place to get an answer. Does anyone know what effects Jay Joyce used on his guitar parts for Tim's Say It Is So? There are some amazing ambient guitar wash like sounds on that album. He uses them on the Finn Bros track Way Back Down too.

Anyone?
Sorry Joe, not I.

On a separate note, was just listening to the '87 Trocadero gig in Philly on Wolfgang's Vault...loved hearing Neil on the Strat. I miss that sound. I wonder/hope if he'll ever use it again. Such a big part of his sound from about 1981 to 1988. Nice shimmery sound and Neil used the tremolo arm to nice effect.

For me, classic Neil = Strat + Roland JC (w/ Chorus on and hint of gain) + Hot Cake + RE201 Tape Echo. Sometimes add the MXR Flanger (Giant Heartbeat in Canada, for instance). Beautiful, definitive sound. Admittedly, would sound a little dated today, but not in a jarring way.
Interesting setup - thanks large for posting it. Notice the redundancy (aside from the tuners of course).

Distortion/Overdrive: (1) Neil's classic Crowther Audio Hot Cake (2) T-Rex MudHoney II

Delay: (1) Boss DD-3 (2) Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man (3) T-Rex Reptile

Vibrato: (1) Boss VB-2 (2) Electro-Harmonix Deluxe Memory Man

I notice the Radial ToneBone is gone. I would love to know what he uses when and if he's simply test driving these pedals or if they are a permanent fixture.

Any shots of the settings on his Vox AC30?
looking at earlier pictures from the 2010 tour he replaced the tonebone and his holy grail with the two new trex pedals. btw he was using the tonebone in the "upstairs at home" videosSmiler

yes would also love to see some settings on the ampSmiler

im trying to get as much of neils stuff that i can!
Boss tu 2
crybaby gcb95 f
hotcake
boss dd3
behringer uv300(really good boss vb2 copy, but its a plastic chassis)
holy grail reverb
thats wat i have so far

getting the microkorg soonSmiler and buying my self his two gretsch stage guitars latert in the year!Smiler
Sorry If I'm taking this slightly off topic but need some help. I'm pretty sure there must some accomplished guitar players on this thread,so I need help and advice ! I'm in the process of picking an accoustic to learn on ,can anybody recommend a decent guitar that won't break the bank.

Also and maybe more importantly ,any advice on practice techniques etc to keep it interesting and fun ! Smiler Any advice welcome cheers David
McFinn!!


Thebest advice that i could give you is to go to some local stores, and take some time to play some guitars or get a feel of them. You might find that you will get a really good feeling about one.Smiler im sure the owners of the stores would be more than happy to let you play some guitars!Smiler But There are no guitars like Maton!


Hope This HelpsSmiler
I remember a tommy emmanuel quote from a few years ago saying that when your learning a song, just play that song, nothing else just play that song. I find tha helps because you really get into what your learning. And also, i would say play what you like. Theres no point in learning something thats of no interest to youSmiler When i started playing guitar, i used to watch neil play, ad over the years ive picked up the little things that he does, finger positions etc. but thats what i would say, just try play what you want to playSmiler
To say what is a good acoustic is like saying how long is a piece of string! I have had a go on a couple of Matons and they are nice however I picked up a Martin HD-18 that was 20yrs old with crappy strings and it sounded superb! and felt right, however the £1700 price tag reflects this!
I feel that Matons are just a little thin sounding for me but thats a very personal thing,however when plugged into PA thats a whole different matter they have fab electrics on-board and sound Beautiful, I do now own a Martin HD-35 and its just perfect! but to your question I would indeed go to a shop try all kind of models out, Yamaha have some very good affordable guitars and pick one that feels right for you, also depending on how serious you are about this I would defo get the guitar 'setup' properly (intonation string height ect)the shop should be able to put you in touch with someone who does this and it would feel like a real dream to play..just my two cents
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Originally posted by Sam Robinson:
I remember a tommy emmanuel quote from a few years ago saying that when your learning a song, just play that song, nothing else just play that song. I find tha helps because you really get into what your learning. And also, i would say play what you like. Theres no point in learning something thats of no interest to youSmiler When i started playing guitar, i used to watch neil play, ad over the years ive picked up the little things that he does, finger positions etc. but thats what i would say, just try play what you want to playSmiler




Trying on Saturday a Freshman,Tanglewood and an Epiphone will report back which one I buy ,really looking forward to this ! Smiler

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