I found a file on the internet today titled "Neil Finn - Don't Minos Zero" (exact spelling). I was curious and downloaded it.

The file turned out to be a studio recording of "Don't Dream It's Over" with Neil singing, but a very sparse version. Neil's singing suggests it is somewhat recent (within the last few years). It is mostly acoustic guitar and brushed drumkit, and the famous organ solo is played on treated electric guitar.

Anyone know what this is? The maddening thing is, the file I found ends at about 2:05, so I don't even have the whole thing. I'm desperate to find what it is and where I can find the whole thing!! Anyone know anything about this?
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Originally posted by Tommy J:
[qb]I found a file on the internet today titled "Neil Finn - Don't Minos Zero" (exact spelling). I was curious and downloaded it.

The file turned out to be a studio recording of "Don't Dream It's Over" with Neil singing, but a very sparse version. Neil's singing suggests it is somewhat recent (within the last few years). It is mostly acoustic guitar and brushed drumkit, and the famous organ solo is played on treated electric guitar.

Anyone know what this is? The maddening thing is, the file I found ends at about 2:05, so I don't even have the whole thing. I'm desperate to find what it is and where I can find the whole thing!! Anyone know anything about this?[/qb]
It is avaliable on a double CD album titled "Diana Tribute". Neil re-recorded the song in 1997 especially for this album which has numerous artists paying tribute to the (then) recently deceased Princess Diana. The album was also released in 1997.
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[qb]Click here
hmm, not happy about the album but nice show old man.[/qb]
oh oh oh! and if you click that link then click on the following audio link it would seem that this song is actualy a tribute to the princess of wamr blooded sea mammals Eeker

EDITFrowneradding this)
Yep, I'd say that would be the version you're thinking of. I got it from Audiogalaxy a while ago (RIP Frowner ) & it goes for the same amount of time the original goes for, except it seems a lot slower & is more "ballad-like" than the original... as well as the drums sounding weird.

I've also got an "extended version" of it. It goes for 6:09 all up & it takes until 2:08 into the song for the "there is freedom within..." bit to start. This "extended version" of don't dream it's over was released as a CD single in it's own right in the UK back in about '86.

Thanks for bringing up the topic, Tommy J... because I also have a question... In 1996 when Crowded House were releasing singles in the UK (instinct and not the girl you think you are), they also (re?)released don't dream it's over as a 2CD single. What I want to know is... did they re-record it just for the single, or did they just use the original? If the version on the single is the original of don't dream it's over, was it remastered without the band re-recording it?

...because I've got 2 versions that sound identical/almost identical to each other & go for the exact same time. One of them I named "different version" because it sounds just a tad clearer than the original (?) version. Who knows? Maybe I just got the 2 from different albums (CH[/b] and RD). So what's the informtion on Crowded House re-releasing don't dream it's over? Thanks.
The Diana version also appeared as the first track of four selections from the album on a promo CD.

New version alert: the 5.1 surround sound mix of the original recording is coming...
secret god, the 1996 single version of DDIO was remixed from the same original recordings, not rerecorded...it makes a good example of how important the mixing of a song/album is, something a lot of listeners never even consider.
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Tommy J wrote this classy text:
[qb]...it makes a good example of how important the mixing of a song/album is, something a lot of listeners never even consider.[/qb]
Yeah, point taken... the differences in the 2 versions are notable, but it was 10 or 11 years later when they mixed it again (re-mix didn't sound like the right word to use Smiler ). Also, if mixing a song or album is so important, why is it that live versions sometimes sound better than the "mixed" versions? - only sometimes though.

B.T.W. I think I like the 1996 version of don't dream it's over better than the original.
actually, for me there's nothing wrong with the word "remix"--for some people it carries the connotation of "dance remix" but taken literally it only means something was mixed again. As long as the original source tapes were used, as they were in this case, that description is appropriate, I think.

Live versions vs. studio recordings is a whole debate in itself, but comparing them directly is really comparing apples to oranges, in my opinion. They are two fairly different disciplines, both for the performer and the engineer. But it's worth pointed out that live albums are "mixed" too.

Personally I can't stand the 1996 version of DDIO. Those first chiming guitar chords of the original, with the delay and reverb effects, is so ingrained in my head, I just hate the way the guitar was mixed in the newer version.
Tommy, I agree. The remix also used what could ahve been some pedal effects (they sounded like glasses being rubbed) which totally blew the whole vibe of the song. (These effects were also used on the original 12" mix, but only towards the end of the song).

As far as remix vs. dance remix goes, I think the term "remix" is actually inappropriate for dance mixes. In essence, they aren't remixes, they're brand new tracks that only use elements of the original. Often these elements are only vocals but can sometimes be bass or keyboards, but regardless they aren't really remixes, they're samples.
Hmmm... by the way you're all talking about how different the 2 versions of don't dream it's over are has got me thinking that maybe I haven't actually got the 1996 version. How different exactly, are the 2 versions?

Re: Live Vs. Studio
Tommy J - You say that "live albums are "mixed" too"... Cool, I never knew that. How would they sound if they were not mixed? - just put on a CD as they were?

Also, I've got another studio version of don't dream it's over. It's the radio edit version. The main (only?) differences are the gutair intro bit at the start (they halved it for the radio edit) & it also fades out @ the end really quick. It goes for 3:33 (from when the music starts to when it finishes).

Does anybody have info about this track (I mean the "Don't Dream It's Over [Acoustic]" From Diana (Princess of Wales) Tribute), i.e., who the instrumentalists were, who produced it, where it was recorded who it was recorded/mixed by...etc?

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It says little in the album credits; just that it was recorded in 1997. From what I remember back in the day, it had to be put together quickly, so I think it was an "all Neil solo" effort.

@Secret God (Stew): the two versions (1986 vs. 1996) of DDIO are not that different. There is the glass chimes sound that I knew from the '86 12" mixed into the opening; as @slowpogo wrote, the '96 mix appears a bit more polished, and near the end of the song, Neil sings "don't ever let them win" once, a line actually printed in the '86 lyrics booklet, but never present in the recording.

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