This broke 10 days early ,  but here are a few words from Neil.  I know there will be a lot of comments , questions etc on this...  more to come. How exciting for him. 

"Two weeks ago I received a wonderful invitation to be a part of a truly great band. A few days later I was standing in a room playing music with Fleetwood Mac. It felt fresh and exciting, so many great songs, a spectacular rhythm section and 2 of the greatest voices ever. Best of all, we sounded good together. It was a natural fit. I can’t wait to play some more. " (NF) 

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Hello all---

My first response, I'm a little ashamed to admit, was "Ewww...!"

But now that I'm over the shock, I have to admit, it might be fun for a while.  I'm not particularly eager to hear Neil singing with Nicks, but I think he and Christine McVie would work well together.

I really don't expect that they'll let Neil do any of his material.  He's joining their band, after all.  With Mike Campbell also on board, I assume Neil is mostly involved for his singing and rhythm guitar work, with an occasional guitar solo in the mix.

But wow, what I would give to hear "Private Universe" with Mick, John, and Christine backing Neil up.

I figure Neil will duet with Christine on songs like "Don't Stop" and "World Turning," and he might sing lead on things like "Oh Well."  My hope is that they don't make him sing Lindsey songs.  That would just be sad, and besides, FM has plenty of non-LB songs they could do.

matt

This is a fascinating development. I have been waiting for Mick to drum on a Neil related album (it is still not clear if he might be playing on Light Sleeper or not) but never ever did I contemplate that Neil would join Fleetwood Mac as a touring member!

Personally, I love the idea.

I am a Fleetwood Mac fan and their legacy is far greater than just 1976 onwards. My guess (and it is only that) is that Lindsey may have thrown his toys when it was suggested that they do some of the pre 1976 era songs on the upcoming tour. 

This new line-up will actually provide more flexibility to open up their full back catalogue into their setlists.

I can't imagine them not doing Go Your Own Way, and it would be interesting to see Neil on vocals for that. Otherwise I can see Neil working really well on the likes of Don't Stop, World Turning and The Chain. Then it opens things up for Neil to sing some of the pre-Buckingham songs which would also work well. 

I do wonder what this means for Light Sleeper though. If that is still going to be released mid year, then this development rules out any chance of touring it off the back of the release. I just hope that this doesn't result in the release date moving further out.

This will be massive exposure for Neil and his music though. I'm sure there will be plenty of Fleetwood Mac fans who start exploring his back catalogue after seeing him in concert with them (or just hearing the news he is joining the band). If it weren't for ALT, I would have never become an Andy White or Hothouse Flowers fan. 

Quite a left turn, will be interesting to see how this plays out. Pretty much love everything Neil does, but honestly can’t see - and don’t want to see - him singing Lindsey Buckingham songs. I’ve loved Lindsey since his Buckingham Nicks days and no one can sing or play his songs like he does. He’s one of the greats, almost on par with Neil. Hopefully, Neil will go his own way (and not sing that song)...

Yes I managed to get the Peter Green line out of the way at 8.00 this morning while in the office. What a long day it has been.  I'm fascinated how this will turn out- love that Neil has such a vibe for it-the jam in Maui sounds like it was excellent. Maybe he'll add some fresh blood into Fleetwood Mac too seeing he is the whippersnapper of the band-just like joining Split Enz all over again (well not really).  Anything can happen. I applaud musical detours. 

It's exciting. I love Lyndsey's work  as much as the next guy, but someone has to fill in for a departed member, so why not Neil? He loves the songs, loves the band and sings better than ever. Boosts his profile worldwide, which means more audience for his future and past projects.

Maybe Mark Hart can back at him now for all those on stage Supertramp jibes.

It won't be the first time Neil's been on a tour with Stevie Nicks and Mike Campbell. Split Enz toured US and Canada with Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers in 1981.

Even now that I’ve slept on this news, it still isn’t making a lot of sense to me.

Why would Neil, creatively restless and one who loves to be in charge, join such a well known band as a hired hand for an extended period of time?

I’m not appalled by the news, but I’m not jumping for joy either.

I hate to admit that the idea of someone other than Lindsey singing Lindsey songs on stage with Fleetwood Mac makes me cringe a little bit, even if that someone is Neil.

No one can replace Lindsey in Fleetwood Mac, not even Neil.

I’ve been thinking more about this (while listening to Fleetwood Mac). 

I can completely understand why Neil wants to do this and is genuinely enthused with the concept. Neil loves music and he loves collaboration. I think he also enjoys being part of something that he doesn’t have to lead or control. He seemed to be in his element when Bic Runga toured Birds and he was on piano. He doesn’t actually get that sort of opportunity often. If jamming with the band in Maui felt musically right, I can completely see him wanting to explore it further. If it didn’t feel right, he would have walked away immediately.

The more I think about it, I doubt he will be asked to do many if any Lindsey Buckingham songs or that he will try to be a Lindsey replica. That’s not Neil’s style and I don’t think it’s what the band will be asking for.

Fleetwood Mac have a massive back catalogue. I think it would be wrong to play Buckingham songs if they have made the choice to fire him. Lindsey was a massive part of the band though and not just with regard to his songs but what he contributed to Christine and Stevie’s songs. I am a big fan of his songs and love his guitar playing but I’m not so much of a fan of his vocal contributions to the others’ songs (particularly live). 

I think Neil could actually be a better vocal match to Christine McVie’s songs (think Everywhere, Don’t Stop, Tell Me Lies, Hold Me etc...). Lindsey is that good that you do need two people to replace his guitar and vocal contributions on songs to do them justice. I do hope that it will be to replace and not replicate because replication is not in anybody’s  best interest.

Neil would also be great on The Chain and supporting Stevie on some of her songs..

The only Buckingham songs that I think may be included in the set list for Neil to sing are Go Your Own Way and Task. I’m still not sure if that would be right or not. I have no doubt Neil would do a great job but it would feel very strange. I definitely can’t imagine Big Love, Second Hand News, I Know I’m Not Wrong or I’m So Afraid etc... being in the set list. They simply shouldn’t be done without Lindsey.

Looking at a typical Fleetwood Mac setlist, there would usually be about 7 Buckingham songs. As mentioned, I could see them potentially keeping one or two because people will be expecting to hear them but replacing the others with an extra couple of Christine and Stevie songs and then freeing up some space for the Peter Green era for Neil to do vocals on.

It also wouldn’t surprise me if during rehearsals that they came up with a new song or two... Who knows where this might lead...

It does still all seem very surreal though...

As others have said, I also had to check the date of the article that I saw posted on Facebook to make sure that it wasn't posted on April 1st.

Perhaps Neil was jealous of Mark being a member of Supertramp, and thought he also could also be a dual-member of CH and a massive band from the 70's.

I'm not sure what to think about it but if it's going to be fun for Neil then sounds good to me. I'm not really one for nostalgia concerts so I won't be attending but I will be following this to see where it leads.

Sorry not excited at all... seems like a cash grab by Neil... very disappointing would much rather have him back with Crowded House or solo but I guess that's not where the $ is... I also think fans are totally mistaken if they think Neil is going to get a chance to place his songs - this will be a FLEETWOOD MAC hits money money money tour - wailt till you see the ticket prices... 

To me,

Sean Cronin posted:

Sorry not excited at all... seems like a cash grab by Neil... very disappointing would much rather have him back with Crowded House or solo but I guess that's not where the $ is... I also think fans are totally mistaken if they think Neil is going to get a chance to place his songs - this will be a FLEETWOOD MAC hits money money money tour - wailt till you see the ticket prices... 

To me, Neil's songs are a natural fit with many Fleetwood Mac songs with a common thread of melody and elegant songwriting. I suspect, they'll play a couple of Neil songs (perhaps Don't Dream It's Over and Private Universe) and they'll also play a couple of Tom Petty songs. Neil has always been a collaborator and adventurer and this is an exciting new venture to embrace.

slowpogo posted:
mattl posted:

My hope is that they don't make him sing Lindsey songs

um, that seems to be the exact reason he was hired. He and Campbell are replacing LB, Campbell presumably on lead guitar, Neil handling his vocals and secondary guitar.

Um, I didn't say he wouldn't sing Lindsey songs.  I said I hoped he wouldn't, because I think that would be a little sad.

I assumed that "Neil is mostly involved for his singing and rhythm guitar work, with an occasional guitar solo in the mix."  Clearly he was brought in to be the male voice accompanying Stevie and Christine.

I don't expect the band to play many LB songs.  Lindsey actually split from the FM previously in 1987 after the successful TANGO IN THE NIGHT record. Similarly to our recent news, the band replaced him with two guitarists, once of whom also sang. 

A quick look at the set lists from the 1988 tour shows only one true Lindsey song---"Go Your Own Way." [For the sake of clarity, I should note that "Blue Letter," though a cover song, was sung by Lindsey during his time in the band, and he also dueted on "Don't Stop," "The Chain," and "World Turning."]

So, it's possible that Neil will only have to sing one Lindsey song.  Mick Fleetwood stated : "We’ll be surprising our audiences with some tracks from our historic catalogue of songs." That had me thinking he plans to include some oldies like "Oh Well" or even "Black Magic Woman" or "Hypnotized."  Of course, he could just be referring to RUMOURS (again).

Finally, this is a pretty clever analysis of the situation (albeit with very little Neil content).

https://www.rollingstone.com/m...y-buckingham-w518935

matt

Sugar Mouse posted:

To me,

Sean Cronin posted:

Sorry not excited at all... seems like a cash grab by Neil... very disappointing would much rather have him back with Crowded House or solo but I guess that's not where the $ is... I also think fans are totally mistaken if they think Neil is going to get a chance to place his songs - this will be a FLEETWOOD MAC hits money money money tour - wailt till you see the ticket prices... 

To me, Neil's songs are a natural fit with many Fleetwood Mac songs with a common thread of melody and elegant songwriting. I suspect, they'll play a couple of Neil songs (perhaps Don't Dream It's Over and Private Universe) and they'll also play a couple of Tom Petty songs. Neil has always been a collaborator and adventurer and this is an exciting new venture to embrace.

"Private Universe" is one that I think would sound perfect with FM behind Neil (as long as Stevie doesn't sing, that is).

I remember playing "Instinct" for the drummer in my band back when RECURRING DREAM was released, and he listened to the opening and said, "Wow, is that a new Fleetwood Mac song? It sounds great."  Then Neil's voice came in, and my drummer was like, "What the...? Who's THAT?"

It's really hard for me to picture CH songs popping up in a FM set.  After all, Neil is joining their band.  Maybe he'll be given a shot at opening some of the shows so that he can spotlight his own catalog?

matt

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