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Originally posted by Mr. Sadly:

Well OKAY, Smiler full disclosure: there is one song. At a bar with a ton of revelers for my then-future-bro-in-law's bachelor party, the song "Help!" came on the jukebox, and they had it up SO LOUD. I couldn't believe how great it sounded! I'd heard it a million times before to little effect. But ever since then when I hear it...it connects. I hear it how it sounded in that moment.

So there's one that broke through. Who knows, maybe what I need is just to hear them all at ear-splitting volume.


Yay! My Beatles theory still intact!
My Dad has this amazing speaker system connected to his PC and forgive me, I know nothing about the technicalities of sound surround (or whatever it is), just know that it sounds A-MA-ZING. I've listened to a few of my albums on it, and you really haven't heard anything til you've heard it on this. I have to get me one of those. Since most music junkies have something like this I won't harp on, but it is great Smiler

Also when I was about 11 I remember hearing The Cure on one of those crap music things they have on the street - you know those silly things with a rubbish DJ spinning discs (DJs in the 80s not today's DJs!) on a mobile stage. In Ireland they called it the Beat on the Street *cringe* but at the time it was so cool! But anyway the song sounded brill so loud and made me listen to The Cure then. So it depends on the setting I think.
'A Day in the Life' and, of all things, 'Dear Prudence' and something like 'Anytime at all' are my favourite Beatles songs. Given that they have such a big Catalog of well produced and accessible music means they deserve their place as the greatest pop band ever. However, I think there were far more talented individuals going around at the time and just about everything that combined to make the Beatles great someone else did better.

I would definitely say, however, that U2 are far more deserving of the overrated tag than the Beatles and are my pick. I think they were big winners on the hype bandwagon and if you don't like things 'in your face' then you certainly won't like U2. I actually think they were better in the early days before it all revolved around Bono and his vocals.
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i do actually like U2 but thier new stuff is HORRIBLE!!
i think they are too rich(money wise)
over rated singer-bono(have to say)
guitarist-Eric clapton (i dont like his songs)
bass-??? i cant think??
keyboards-does Elton John count? hes good but all of his songs since 1980 are not very good
drummer-keith moon Im sick of hearing about him!!
multi-insurumentalist Paul mccartney He should have got his band in for his newest album!!!
Worst singer: Jennifer Lopez. But not over rated. She is a de facto bad singer. Nobody expects anything when she sings.

Overrated singer: Bono (It's time his fans got over it).
Overrated guitarist Santana
Overrated bass There are a lot of them out there, but I think Sting
Overrated drummer: Not Ringo Like Lopez, no one expects anything from him. He still can't do a drum roll. Make him the world's worst drummer ever, but never overrated.
Overrated band: U2
I bet U2 could top a global poll of most-overrated artists. They really seem to have a lot of people pulling for them on that one.

But what sort of effect would that have, one wonders - what effect on their very overratedness? If U2 were named #1 Most Overrated, by resounding majority acclaim...would they still be overrated? After a cold-water accolade like that? Or would that balance the whole thing out, bring 'em back in line with reality?

I often wonder whether it isn't just that they just have a reputation for being overrated. Maybe it's all hype.

Or on the other hand, perhaps the designation simply suits them. For U2, being overrated may be something intrinsic, something unavoidable. Perhaps in the final analysis, we must simply accept them as a justly-overrated band.
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Originally posted by Mr. Sadly:
I bet U2 could top a global poll of most-overrated artists. They really seem to have a lot of people pulling for them on that one.

But what sort of effect would that have, one wonders - what effect on their very overratedness? If U2 were named #1 Most Overrated, by resounding majority acclaim...would they still be overrated? After a cold-water accolade like that? Or would that balance the whole thing out, bring 'em back in line with reality?

I often wonder whether it isn't just that they just have a reputation for being overrated. Maybe it's all hype.

Or on the other hand, perhaps the designation simply suits them. For U2, being overrated may be something intrinsic, something unavoidable. Perhaps in the final analysis, we must simply accept them as a justly-overrated band.


It's all hype whether they are praised to the skies or declared overrated. U2 IS hype. The reason they were bestowed hype is because in the end we are all getting rather sick and tired of them. This is only pop music for heavens sake. Time for them to move on.
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Originally posted by rachel:
U2 IS hype. The reason they were bestowed hype is because in the end we are all getting rather sick and tired of them. This is only pop music for heavens sake. Time for them to move on.

Time for them to move on, or for us to move on! Big Grin There's always that option. Most bands...they can't take a hint.

I don't know, I do love to make fun of them sometimes, but I have to admit: while my interest in U2 waxes and wanes, my love of their best stuff is always there, still strong - as is my eye-rolling disbelief over their worst stuff.

I will say this for them: their attempts at music are usually far better than their attempts at image. When I think of their worst moments, there are some songs on that list, sure - but the list is dominated more by the ridiculous statements, gestures and poses they've thrown over the years. The whole self-iconography schtick.

Admittedly, an apologist could claim (as Bono undoubtedly has) that artists will be mythologized no matter what, and it therefore becomes the artist's prerogative to seize that machinery, to try to exert some control over the process. But dude - that excuse only works if you're good at it! Otherwise you come off like a twit.
1. Most overrated singer - Mariah Carey, or other similiar vocalists with more notes than the bank of England in each line

2. Most overrated guitarist - similar views here - clean cut, ultra slick solo-ing such as Santanna, Chris Rea etc. Give me Neil Young or Finn any day

3. Most overrated bassist - not sure about this one, or keyboardists. No particularly strong views here.

5. Most overrated drummer - again - any drummer with a million fills per bar. I love Ringo though - the Beatles would only have sounded half as good with a more technically accomplished drummer. I saw Macca recently at Anfield (enough of a horror simply being at Anfield.. Smiler) and the session muso vibe of a lot of the playing did take away from some of the songs and the charm of the original recordings).

Hope I don't sound too grumpy

6. Yes. Mike Oldfield. Pants.

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