Looks like I Got You is dropped

I only kept up with the setlists for the first half-dozen or so shows, but I was struck by how repetitive they were. They were more or less the exact same songs in the exact same order every night. I wonder why this is/was. Perhaps Neil only had time to learn a certain number of songs?
The diehard fans who attend multiple gigs would surely want some variety. Last year I saw 2 gigs from Midnight Oil in the space of 3 nights, and about half the songs were changed out entirely between shows, which was really satisfying. Midnight Oil has a huge catalogue to draw from, but so does Fleetwood Mac.

Cradle2Grave posted:

I only kept up with the setlists for the first half-dozen or so shows, but I was struck by how repetitive they were. They were more or less the exact same songs in the exact same order every night. I wonder why this is/was. Perhaps Neil only had time to learn a certain number of songs?
The diehard fans who attend multiple gigs would surely want some variety. Last year I saw 2 gigs from Midnight Oil in the space of 3 nights, and about half the songs were changed out entirely between shows, which was really satisfying. Midnight Oil has a huge catalogue to draw from, but so does Fleetwood Mac.

I’ve heard this is how Fleetwood Mac usually is on tour. Fixed set list, scripted banter. Maybe I Got You wasn’t getting a big reaction. But yeah, would be nice if they swapped in a new Neil song.

Cradle2Grave posted:

I only kept up with the setlists for the first half-dozen or so shows, but I was struck by how repetitive they were. They were more or less the exact same songs in the exact same order every night. I wonder why this is/was. Perhaps Neil only had time to learn a certain number of songs?
The diehard fans who attend multiple gigs would surely want some variety. Last year I saw 2 gigs from Midnight Oil in the space of 3 nights, and about half the songs were changed out entirely between shows, which was really satisfying. Midnight Oil has a huge catalogue to draw from, but so does Fleetwood Mac.

This is typical of EVERY band that plays stadiums. If they have a huge light and video component, dozens or hundreds of people are involved and the band just can’t wing it,

OregonKiwi posted:
Cradle2Grave posted:

I only kept up with the setlists for the first half-dozen or so shows, but I was struck by how repetitive they were. They were more or less the exact same songs in the exact same order every night. I wonder why this is/was. Perhaps Neil only had time to learn a certain number of songs?
The diehard fans who attend multiple gigs would surely want some variety. Last year I saw 2 gigs from Midnight Oil in the space of 3 nights, and about half the songs were changed out entirely between shows, which was really satisfying. Midnight Oil has a huge catalogue to draw from, but so does Fleetwood Mac.

This is typical of EVERY band that plays stadiums. If they have a huge light and video component, dozens or hundreds of people are involved and the band just can’t wing it,

Interesting perspective that I hadn't really considered. Now that I think about it, you could argue that theatre, musical theatre and live music sit on more of a continuum, where some bands (particularly big acts playing stadiums) may adopt a more theatrical approach than others- which involves elaborate production values and a tighter script.

I have always attended shows of my favourite artists with more of a 'muso' mindset. Enjoying the unpredictability of the setlist, hoping to hear some obscure favourites of mine and lapping up any improvised sections and organic banter. But I suppose there are plenty of people out there who would like to see a show, a production, something more rehearsed. They know what to expect and can appreciate the fine artistry which has been honed and mastered, much like attending a theatrical play.

slowpogo posted:
Cradle2Grave posted:

I only kept up with the setlists for the first half-dozen or so shows, but I was struck by how repetitive they were. They were more or less the exact same songs in the exact same order every night. I wonder why this is/was. Perhaps Neil only had time to learn a certain number of songs?
The diehard fans who attend multiple gigs would surely want some variety. Last year I saw 2 gigs from Midnight Oil in the space of 3 nights, and about half the songs were changed out entirely between shows, which was really satisfying. Midnight Oil has a huge catalogue to draw from, but so does Fleetwood Mac.

I’ve heard this is how Fleetwood Mac usually is on tour. Fixed set list, scripted banter. Maybe I Got You wasn’t getting a big reaction. But yeah, would be nice if they swapped in a new Neil song.

Response to "I Got You" was good but I suspect they wanted to shorten the setlist (perhaps members were getting too tired) and Neil had two songs so removing one made sense to them.

Sounds about right. It seemed like they were tossing Neil an extra bone, which took FM out of their audience's element of familiarity. 

The scripted banter is tired and the Intro to DDIO is dreadful. Mick, bending over and reading from the teleprompter about this most wonderful song just slows down the whole process, and I'd rather have that 45 seconds as part of the intro or the bridge.  The song doesn't get to "settle in" otherwise, but the spoken intro comes across to me as a yawner. Probably because I have heard it several times. But the song is great and speaks for itself. They should allow it to linger a tad longer imho.  Still, I'm very happy that they play it.

c.houser posted:

Sounds about right. It seemed like they were tossing Neil an extra bone, which took FM out of their audience's element of familiarity. 

The scripted banter is tired and the Intro to DDIO is dreadful. Mick, bending over and reading from the teleprompter about this most wonderful song just slows down the whole process, and I'd rather have that 45 seconds as part of the intro or the bridge.  The song doesn't get to "settle in" otherwise, but the spoken intro comes across to me as a yawner. Probably because I have heard it several times. But the song is great and speaks for itself. They should allow it to linger a tad longer imho.  Still, I'm very happy that they play it.

I would love to hear a bunch of Neil songs but it doesn't make sense for Fleetwood Mac to play so many non-Mac songs. Already playing "Free Fallin" and "Don't Dream It's Over" and that feels right but more than that makes them sound too much like a cover band.

Will see what happens at tonights show. They've dropped Storms from the  setlist,  switched out Hypnotized for Gypsy, and during the last show they dropped You Make Loving Fun in favor of Isn't It Midnight. They also dropped All Over Again from the Encore a couple of times. So they're tweaking the setlist. If they don't play I Got You tonight, it could be a permanent drop. 

I find the logistics behind staging the show fascinating, and it explains why tweaking the setlist is strategically done and must be coordinated with light people, visual, etc.

Do any of you know if the crew would travel by bus/truck, and does the band all travel by busses between stops that are somewhat close together, like Wisconsin and Michigan, or would they fly in their own jet? It really must take a small city to stage such an arena show.

Each band member would "Go Their Own Way". (You see what I did there).

There are definitely large tour buses for crew, and probably a bus for each of the core band, including Neil. I would imagine the core band would sometimes fly but sometimes stay on the bus. They may even have a dedicated plane for the group. The tour is grossing millions and millions, and the cost to move the band is insignificant. Incidentally, I saw Lindsey Buckingham in Portland last month - the date after his show my friend saw him on a Southwest flight from Portland to San Francisco for the next show. 

Each band member may travel with a Spouse, partner, kids, assistant too, on their bus.

Stadium tours allow the budget for whatever the band needs. Smaller shows have less options. 

 

I'm actually glad I Got You was dropped.  It didn't feel right. But that's just my opinion.  I would imagine they would and should add another song of Neil's. After all Neil comes with a wealth of songs they would be more suited to.  Fall at your feet being one I could imagine Stevie singing.  Private Universe would open a new world to FM fans.  It's a very ethereal song and Stevie' moan in place of Neil's at the end would get them all gasping.  There are numerous songs Stevie's voice is better suited to but I would feel Neil could be quite corrective with her interpretation of it all In saying that DDIO has received quite a following and rightly so ((claps)) .

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