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The Beloit College "Mindset List" for the Class of 2007...(developed every year to give faculty and staff an idea of where incoming freshmen are coming from...)

Most students entering college this fall were born in 1985. To them:

1. Ricky Nelson, Richard Burton, Samantha Smith, Laura Ashley, Orson Welles, Karen Ann Quinlan, Benigno Aquino, and the U.S. Football League have always been dead.

2. They are not familiar with the source of that "Giant Sucking Sound."

3. Iraq has always been a problem.

4. "Ctrl Alt Del" is as basic as "ABC."

5. Paul Newman has always made salad dressing.

6. Pete Rose has always been a gambler.

7. Bert and Ernie are old enough to be their parents.

8. An automatic is a weapon, not a transmission.

9. Russian leaders have always looked like leaders everyplace else.

10. The snail darter has never been endangered.

11. There has always been a screening test for AIDS.

12. Gas has always been unleaded.

13. They never heard Howard Cosell call a game on ABC.

14. The United States has always had a poet laureate.

15. Garrison Keillor has always been live on public radio, and Lawrence Welk has always been dead on public television.

16. Their families drove SUVs without "being fuelish."

17. There has always been some association between fried eggs and your brain.

18. They would never leave their calling card on someone's desk.

19. They have never been able to find the "return" key.

20. Computers have always fit in their backpacks.

21. Datsuns have never been made.

22. They have never gotten excited over a telegram, a long distance call or a fax.

23. The Osmonds are just talk show hosts.

24. College athletes (those still enrolled as undergraduates) have always been a part of the NBA and NFL draft.

25. They have always "grazed" for food.

26. Three-point shots from "downtown" have always been a part of basketball.

27. Test tube babies are now having their own babies.

28. Stores have always had scanners at the checkout.

29. The Army has always driven Humvees.

30. Adam and PC Junior computers had vanished from the market before this generation went online.

31. The Statue of Liberty has always had a gleaming torch.

32. They have always had a PIN number.

33. Banana Republic has always been a store, not a puppet government in Latin America.

34. Car detailing has always been available.

35. Directory assistance has never been free.

36. The Jaycees have always welcomed women as members.

37. There has always been Lean Cuisine.

38. They have always been able to fly Virgin Atlantic.

39. There have never been dress codes in restaurants.

40. Doctors have always had to deal with "reasonable and customary fees" and patients have always had controls placed on the number of days they could stay in a hospital.

41. They have always been able to make photocopies at home.

42. Michael Eisner has always been in charge of Disney.

43. They have always been able to make phone calls from planes.

44. Yuppies are almost as old as hippies.

45. Rupert Murdoch has always been an American citizen.

46. Strawberry Fields has always been in New York.

47. Rock 'n' roll has always been a force for social good.

48. Killer bees have always been swarming in the United States.

49. They have never seen a first lady in a fur coat.

50. Don Imus has always been offending someone in his national audience.

( Eeker I FEEL OLD!!!!!! I also notice that: "Back to the Future" was released and "Live Aid" was held the year these kids were born, they were in diapers when the Challenger blew up, Duran Duran never had five members as far as they are concerned, Paul McCartney, Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins have always been considered solo artists...)
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Yes I feel old, but not necessarily because of lists like these.

Needless to say, that's a very U.S.-centric list (just to choose an example at random... directory assistance here was free right up until these kids were starting high school, lol.)

Some examples that would make more sense to Australians:

To these kids, there have never been one and two-cent coins in circulation.

To these kids, there have always been one and two dollar coins.

(And one for most of usSmiler
These kids have never heard of the Betamax video recorder.

C'mon, people, I'm sure you can think of more...
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Originally posted by Heidi in Pittsburgh:
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13. They never heard Howard Cosell call a game on ABC.
15. Garrison Keillor has always been live on public radio, and Lawrence Welk has always been dead on public television.
47. Rock 'n' roll has always been a force for social good.

( Eeker I FEEL OLD!!!!!! I also notice that: "Back to the Future" was released and "Live Aid" was held the year these kids were born, they were in diapers when the Challenger blew up, Duran Duran never had five members as far as they are concerned, Paul McCartney, Peter Gabriel and Phil Collins have always been considered solo artists...) [/qb]
Nerds like me have old MNF telecasts on tape so we can see the Cos in action.

Garrison Keilor is doing a Prairie Home Companion live thing here at UN-L but tickets are all gone. I love NPR.

As Suicide once sang, Rock 'n' Roll is Killing my Life

In my generation Phil Collins has always been crap (although there were a few songs co-written by Brian Eno that were all right.)
Me too.

I was chatting to a teenager last year about the Queen's golden jubilee and said to her that I felt old, because I could remember the silver jubilee in 1977 really well.

We got on to the subject of music and I asked her what the first record she bought was...

She said Madonna's "Papa Don't Preach" which made me feel older still.

Then came the killer blow...

She looked at me and said "And it wasn't a record, it was a CD!"

I suddenly felt about 95.

I guess vinyl records are a thing of the past for kids now. Just like the old 78's were, when I was young. (help, I'm only 38!)
I remember I felt old about 9 years ago when I was telling a teenage friend of mine she would love early U2 and therefore check it out and she said "what - I have 'rattle and hum'" I just about fell over and died of cute. Now I love the kids who love that new band ABC or Crowded House. It's pretty funny, but I think the oldest I have felt is in the past year several of the kids I used to nanny years ago have turned 21. and the youngest of those kids are in high school now. Eeker consider my hand raised high oh well I may get old but hey I can be immature forever! Big Grin
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Originally posted by Wherever We Are:
[qb] Me too.

I was chatting to a teenager last year about the Queen's golden jubilee and said to her that I felt old, because I could remember the silver jubilee in 1977 really well.

We got on to the subject of music and I asked her what the first record she bought was...

She said Madonna's "Papa Don't Preach" which made me feel older still.

Then came the killer blow...

She looked at me and said "And it wasn't a record, it was a CD!"

I suddenly felt about 95.

I guess vinyl records are a thing of the past for kids now. Just like the old 78's were, when I was young. (help, I'm only 38!) [/qb]
Actually independent record labels and record shops still do widespread pressing of vinyl. Even some bigger recent releases were put out on record. White Stripes' Elephant comes to mind.

I think there will be records for a very long time. Many audiophiles appreciate the sound.

Some labels find vinyl to be cheaper to do as well. There's enough of a vinyl market for some indie band to release just as many copies on record as they do CD.
WHOA! Talk about memories. I remember when my parents got an 8 track player and it was state of the art. Mom and dad also had a audio tape player too! AT&T had that monopoly and we had to rent our rotary phones from them. Most of the "kids" have never seen _Phycho, Breaker Morant, Gallipolli and Monty Python and the Holy Grail_ has always been a cult film. I remember when John Lennon was killed, and the Who's _Tommy_ was in movie theaters. _Rocky Horror_ was still playing too. I graduated in '85. I am holding up my hand with my other arm now.

But with age comes wisdom. Smiler
When I first got married, my hubby's nephew came and lived with us for a few months. He was about 14-15 at the time. He used to scoff at us and the "old music" we listened to! Aw, come on... I was only about 22 at the time, and the "old" stuff we were listening to was mostly 80's stuff... then we find out his favorite band was... get this... Dr. Hook! Ok, so whose music is old now?!

I thought I saw somewhere that Michael Jackson still puts his stuff on vinyl.
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Originally posted by avalleylitbythemoon:
[qb]Most of the "kids" have never seen _Phycho, Breaker Morant, Gallipolli and Monty Python and the Holy Grail_ has always been a cult film. [/qb]
You mean you were watching Breaker Morant and Gallipoli in the eighties? (Resists typical cultural cringe urge to thank you profusely for this). Wow. I didn't think ANYONE watched Australian movies in the 1980's... except me (and I think seeing "Gallipoli" on Betamax home video at the age of eight was one of the defining moments of my life. It certainly stayed with me... Eeker )

Then again, I was amazed to find a copy of "Gallipoli" in my local video store when I lived in Connecticut last year. Naturally I made my partner rent it, and watch it with me... explaining my fervour with allusions to American war movies, and saying, "Well, this is our big war movie. From back when Mel Gibson was an Aussie...."
Jeez I feel old today.

Slowlt but surely my body is seizing up I'm sure despite eating as best I can and exercise! As the years are going by I have noticed that it has become harder and harder to sit with my feet up (as in feet tucked behind). My knees start to ache and then I have to straighten up!

I also get attacks of arthritic pain. They can be in any joints in my body but today it's my right hand/finger joints. Brufen doesn't come near it Frowner .

I guess then that I shouldn't be sitting here...typing, how stupid is that?

Maybe I should put myself down for a hip replacement now, by the time I come to the top of the NHS waiting list I should be just about ready...
Kia Kaha,

BIG Aussie movie fan - My Brilliant Career (was that Sam Neil's first?), Tim is one of my favorite Mel movies, I loved a Town Called Alice from Masterpiece Theater (that is available on vidio too). I know that there are others but in my old age it is getting harder to remember Confused , but my mom and dad are the ones who introduced me to the brilliance of the "80's" Australian movies.

I still cry at the end of Gallipolli (the heartbreak), Breaker Morant (the injustice) and Tim (the emotions).
You know, age is just a number. I think as long as I continue to be as immature as I always was, I'll be ok!

I've been saying I'm 37 for a *few* years now, and my sons (who are old enough to add and subtract) just roll their eyes. But they let me keep up the pretense. Their love, and the $10 I pay them every week to keep quiet about it keep me young! LOL


If you REALLY want to feel old, read some of the questions in the Trivial Pursuit 20th Anniversary Edition. Yeesh.


vch
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Originally posted by awamutu:
[qb]well, i have *no* idea what teen boys like except video games and porn[/qb]
That is funny, and probably true.

Funny you mention the games too as I recently felt old, when a friend's son recently asked me how many videogame systems I've owned. When I actually ran through the list with him = the look on his face told me that I'M OLD.

Here is the list.

1976 - Coleco Telstar Arcade

1978 - Atari 2600

1982 - Colecovision along with an expansion unit that allowed you to play all the Atari 2600 cartridges. I think Atari sued Coleco and they stopped making the expansion units.

1984 - Unfortunately Colecovision ADAM Computer. The platform was dead right upon release, and so was Colecovision a few years later.

1988 - Amiga Computer (made by Commodore)

1990 - Sega Genesis

1993 - Sega CD

1997 - Sony Playstation

2002 - Microsoft Xbox

Good thing I don't act old!

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