Seeing as the wonderful FOTE club is no more, I'm guessing there's no reason we can't discuss the club CDs. So of the ones you've got what are your favourites? 

Just a few of my faves are Homebrew, Ghost Cars, Taxi, Acoustically Live, Bent In Gent and Detroit Rock City.

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I love Foreplay. Their energy and spirits are really high and the whole thing is really enjoyable. Neil’s voice is at its absolute peak here.

Several of the songs were not always performed. It’s got Convent Girls! which is an astounding performance considering it was just something they were knocking around at the time. Another rarity with Dr. Livingstone. Love This Life and She Goes on, which were relatively rarely heard live.

Apart from those, a bunch of live staples, all killer performances. Fun banter. Just an all around great show with excellent sound quality.

 

It was such a special time to be a member of FOTE when the live discs were being released. I was at uni at the time and didn't have much of a disposal income, but took on a second part-time job and saved like crazy to ensure that I could buy them all. It was such a big deal for me when a new set was a) announced, then b) arrived in the Post. 

I was recently unpacking my music collection to put it back onto shelves (it had spent way to long in boxes after we moved house) and really enjoyed going through the Club discs. 

It is hard for me to choose favourites, but agree with all those mentioned so far as being pretty special. I also really like In the Raw, and reckon there is something special about the Live at CBGBs as well. 

The Finn Bros, and Neil solo ones were brilliant as well. 

The club was simply incredible with what it made available for the fans. My local Post Office got to know me really well due to the regular purchase of IRCs (International Reply Coupons) in bulk!

I joined the club around 2000 or whenever it was that they did the one off reissue of Crowdies/Finn Bros/Neil club CDs. I bought as much as I could afford. I remember at the time that CHs Ghost Cars and Finn Bros Kiwi Charms were new club releases. It was the most amazing time to be a fan with all those releases.

It sounds so uncool now but I used to love getting the newsletters and the sales sheets and seeing what new exclusive CDs/DVDs etc were coming out. Amazing times.

Agree 100% about how it felt to get the newsletters and sales sheets! I still miss those days... The VIP email updates were great, but it just wasn't the same as getting something physical from the mail box.

I am a real collector tragic and would photocopy my filled in sales sheets and file them with all my other FOTE stuff. I have kept all my stuff including Peters handwritten note welcoming me to the club. While I have unpacked all my CDs, I still have 3 more boxes of music 'stuff' to find homes for at the new house. I am looking forward to going through the newsletters when I get to them (the earlier ones are housed in the newsletter folders with the Recurring Dream artwork that were a sales item one year!).

In the early days of the club CDs it was an expensive exercise for a student, as I think they were released in batches of 4 at a time. Big sacrifices were made to buy them, but I have never regretted it!

Despite this day and age of online discographies, I still prefer the printed FOTE one that was put out in the 90s. It is very very out of date now, but I still refer to it for the early Enz and CH vinyl releases. Peter's note at the beginning warns about trying to be a completist and collecting everything but it didn't stop me trying for a while! Then the internet came along and it was easier to find things which started to make things very expensive so I had reduce my scope! I think I did manage to acquire a copy of every Enz single and perhaps all the CH singles with a picture sleeve which felt like a big enough completist accomplishment! 

How many official Crowded House fan club CDs were there? I think I count 35 in my collection, not counting the radio discs. I would love to know the release dates for these. Here's my list:

  1. 1986/11/22 Live at CBGB (acoustic set), New York, US
  2. 1987/01/22 Live on the Rooftop, Melbourne, AUS
  3. 1988/08/25 State of Mind, Sydney, AUS
  4. 1989/04/06 Marcia, Marcia, Marcia, Los Angeles, US (this recording was way too fast and I had to speed correct to enjoy it)
  5. 1991/09/20 Detroit Rock City, Detroit, US
  6. 1991/09/25 Taxi, Montreal, CAN
  7. 1991/10/18 Bent in Gent, Belgium
  8. 1991/11/24 Buffalo, US
  9. 1991/11/24 Nick's Birthday Party, Memphis, US
  10. 1991/12/12 In The Raw, Houston, US
  11. 1992/02/28 Graduation, Leeds, UK
  12. 1992/03/23 New Castle Jam, New Castle, AUS
  13. 1992/03/23 Hometown, Melbourne, AUS
  14. 1992/06/20 Nick The Stripper, Liverpool, UK
  15. 1992/06/24 One Night Stand, London, UK
  16. 1992/07/17 Foreplay, Dublin, Ireland
  17. 1993/11/21 Manchester Split, Manchester, UK
  18. 1993/12/02 Dutch Treat, Holland
  19. 1993/12/08 Live in Berlin, Germany
  20. 1994/03/23 Live a the Warfield, San Francisco, US
  21. 1994/04/14 Paul Is Dead, Atlanta, US
  22. 1996/09/02 Belvoir, Finn Brothers, Perth, AUS
  23. 1996/11/20 Worst Kept Secret, Melbourne, AUS
  24. 1996/11/21 Exit Stage Left, Melbourne, AUS
  25. 2002/07/18 Live at the 930 Club, Neil Finn, Washington, DC, US
  26. Back on the Bus (compilation)
  27. Ghost Cars... (compilation)
  28. Homebrew (compilation)
  29. Spooky Vibrations (compilation)
  30. Acoustically Live (compilation)
  31. Eyes of the World, Finn Brothers (compilation)
  32. Kiwi Charms, Finn Brothers (compilation)
  33. Mood Swinging Men, Finn Brothers (compilation)
  34. Live in America, Neil Finn (compilation)
  35. Encore, Neil Finn (compilation)

What did I miss? 

I think Back on the Bus and Ghost Cars are my favorite. Peter (I assume) put a great amount of time and effort into making these great compilations. Homebrew is certainly not to be missed as it's the only place to hear bits of some unreleased and unfinished songs.

Paināporo posted:

How many official Crowded House fan club CDs were there? I think I count 35 in my collection, not counting the radio discs. I would love to know the release dates for these. Here's my list:

  1. 1986/11/22 Live at CBGB (acoustic set), New York, US
  2. 1987/01/22 Live on the Rooftop, Melbourne, AUS
  3. 1988/08/25 State of Mind, Sydney, AUS
  4. 1989/04/06 Marcia, Marcia, Marcia, Los Angeles, US (this recording was way too fast and I had to speed correct to enjoy it)
  5. 1991/09/20 Detroit Rock City, Detroit, US
  6. 1991/09/25 Taxi, Montreal, CAN
  7. 1991/10/18 Bent in Gent, Belgium
  8. 1991/11/24 Buffalo, US
  9. 1991/11/24 Nick's Birthday Party, Memphis, US
  10. 1991/12/12 In The Raw, Houston, US
  11. 1992/02/28 Graduation, Leeds, UK
  12. 1992/03/23 New Castle Jam, New Castle, AUS
  13. 1992/03/23 Hometown, Melbourne, AUS
  14. 1992/06/20 Nick The Stripper, Liverpool, UK
  15. 1992/06/24 One Night Stand, London, UK
  16. 1992/07/17 Foreplay, Dublin, Ireland
  17. 1993/11/21 Manchester Split, Manchester, UK
  18. 1993/12/02 Dutch Treat, Holland
  19. 1993/12/08 Live in Berlin, Germany
  20. 1994/03/23 Live a the Warfield, San Francisco, US
  21. 1994/04/14 Paul Is Dead, Atlanta, US
  22. 1996/09/02 Belvoir, Finn Brothers, Perth, AUS
  23. 1996/11/20 Worst Kept Secret, Melbourne, AUS
  24. 1996/11/21 Exit Stage Left, Melbourne, AUS
  25. 2002/07/18 Live at the 930 Club, Neil Finn, Washington, DC, US
  26. Back on the Bus (compilation)
  27. Ghost Cars... (compilation)
  28. Homebrew (compilation)
  29. Spooky Vibrations (compilation)
  30. Acoustically Live (compilation)
  31. Eyes of the World, Finn Brothers (compilation)
  32. Kiwi Charms, Finn Brothers (compilation)
  33. Mood Swinging Men, Finn Brothers (compilation)
  34. Live in America, Neil Finn (compilation)
  35. Encore, Neil Finn (compilation)

What did I miss? 

I think Back on the Bus and Ghost Cars are my favorite. Peter (I assume) put a great amount of time and effort into making these great compilations. Homebrew is certainly not to be missed as it's the only place to hear bits of some unreleased and unfinished songs.

It looks like you are missing:

Neil Finn - 9.30 Club Washington 

The rarities in this are I Can’t Get Started (Gershwin cover), Human Kindness, The Kids Are Alright (The Who cover), Lullaby Requiem.

Finn Brothers - Belvoir, Perth 9/2/96

There are no songs on this that aren’t on the other Finn Bros club releases, but it is a gig that finds them in really fine voice. It has my favorite version of In Love With It All on it...

Otherwise, it looks like you have them all.

Oh, let's just go ahead and review these, shall we?

Live at CBGB is the earliest concert released by the Crowded House fan club. If the band banter is to believed, they were asked to fill in at the last moment, but I'm skeptical. The audience is apparently full of family members and the band was actively touring the region at the time. The show is performed entirely by just Neil, Nick and Paul. Neil is on acoustic guitar the whole night and I think Paul is playing his small standup kit with brushes and not a full drum set.

The fan club CD doesn't contain the entire concert. The last song of the show on the CD is "I Got You" which fades out just as the band begins to play "Not Fade Away" (irony?), which would have been the last song of the night. One presumes the fan club removed that song because they didn't want to pay royalties. I think "When You Come" was probably played too, but I can't confirm this. It was just a staple in their set lists during this tour.

The last three songs are tacked on from some other source. They are not acoustic and they're fine, but I would have rather had the entire show.

While this is a very high quality recording, it's not without its quirks. For some reason the band is mixed to the far left and the audience to the far right. This makes it hard to enjoy with headphones. You keep wanting to turn your head to the left (haha!). The mix is a bit shrill and Neil throws out his voice after the first two songs. "Don't Dream It's Over" is performed early in the set and Neil sings a low harmony on the chorus instead of the high note. It's as if the song isn't even a hit (because it wasn't yet).

This was an interesting phase in the band's career. Crowded House had been out since August and not really performing in the charts. I think the record company just wanted to keep the band on the road while trying to get something going on radio. The band stumbles through a number of songs, forgetting words, stopping and starting. You wouldn't think that would make for a great gig, but you can definitely hear the band developing their schtick - picking on each other, joking with the audience, etc.

The whole affair comes off as a bit unfocused, but you just enjoy the banter and harmonies so much that it's actually a joy to listen to. Not to mention a unique opportunity to hear the band before they've had really any success at all. Heck, "I Got You" is basically performed as the closer presumably because it's the most well known song they've got. Also interesting to hear them playing "Better Be Home Soon" even though Neil clearly hasn't finished writing it yet.

Overall rating: 3.5 (out of 5)

This is perhaps the most concerning of the fan club releases. When thinking about Crowded House in 1987 I think of the band at the peak of its popularity in North America and a series of iconic performances across the US and Canada. Yet the fan club chooses to release nothing of the North American tour. Instead they release this single show performed on the rooftop of the Myer department store in downtown Melbourne.

I think this is likely the entire show, but I have no way to confirm it. It is, like Live at CBGB, another unique look at the band just prior to their break through (though the album was already top ten in Australia). It's interesting to hear Crowded House's take on the Enz song "Mind Over Matter." But the biggest issue with this CD is that the sound quality is dreadful. So bad that if I were Neil, I would have been embarrassed to release it to fans.

The entire CD sounds like it was taken from a cassette tape that sat in someone's hot car for too long (I'm assuming this isn't just my copy). The songs keep speeding up and slowing down so it sounds like the band is constantly playing out of tune. "Don't Dream It's Over" is nearly unlistenable. If you see this on ebay steer clear. Anyone paying big bucks will be sorely disappointed. 

If you want a great 1987 show, look for Live at the Bottom Line (1987/03/22) or Live at the Trocadero (1987/03/24). Those are the best shows I've heard from 1987 and quite frankly two of the best shows I've ever heard the band play.

Overall rating: 1 (out of 5)

Apologies for cutting into the thread but if any one is able or willing to help with getting hold of a copy of the Newcastle Jam CD, I'd love to hear the full show or at least the contents of the disc and I'd be very grateful. 

Please PM if you can help

Kind regards

Nick

 

Now we're talking! Fast forward 17 months and we get State of Mine. This one better fits the mold of the standard fan club CD. It's a soundboard recording of a show that's been culled to ~74 minutes to fit on to a single CD. I think this is one of the most iconic shows of the band's career. Well at least one of the State Theatre shows is. The band originally planned to play one night but they quickly added four additional nights and they all sold out within three days of being announced. This recording is apparently from the 4th night. Neil mentions there being cameras recording the concert and I think it was probably being broadcast on radio too. I believe the live clip of "Sister Madly" on I Like To Watch is taken from the same show.

Here's a review of the first night:

This was the closest to Beatlemania the band ever got and in a just world at least one of these five nights of shows would be available in its entirety. As it is, we have to settle for this paired down disc, which is of course far better than nothing. But if you want a couple extra songs, you have to hunt down the bootleg "Better Be Live Soon," which I think was taken from a radio broadcast and includes "Don't Dream It's Over," "World Where You Live," and "Love You 'Til The Day I Die." So if you kind of frankenstein them together you might get the entire setlist, though I couldn't tell you what order the songs should be in.

State of Mind sounds fantastic. The bass is full, the band is tight. As always with the fan club CDs, you do wish they would have miced the audience so that you get a bit more of that live energy from the crowd, but that's a minor complaint. It's great to hear Paul's song "Signs" performed and Sister Madly includes a great rendition of "This Is Massive" (though it isn't split out as a separate track).

It should also be noted that this is one of Eddie Rayner's last shows as keyboard player for Crowded House. At one point Paul even raps, "we're making records, Ed's making babies, that's alright, we'll see you later mate!" I'm not the biggest fan of Eddie's keyboard playing as a part of Crowded House. I much prefer Mark. But he was undeniably an essential part of the early Crowded House live sound.

This is the first of what I would consider a must-own fan club CD.

Overall rating: 5 (out of 5)

Am absolutely loving your fanclub reviews @Paināporo, kep them coming!

It wasn't until the early 2000s that I signed up with the fanclub for the first time, so I effectively missed the golden era of the live Crowded House releases. And didn't have the money when they were available (being under 18 at the time). It should also be said that I was slack with renewing too! So it's been catch-up ever since!

The fanclub albums are generally amazing in sound quality, but I had forgotten how poor Live on the Rooftop was until you mentioned it. Really interesting review and I hope you will post more.

I noticed that you missed Live In The UK and One On One (both released in 2001), but @Whysus has since mentioned them both.

And there are obviously the four I Like It Rare compilations, Tim's Far Out EP, the Letters to My Frenz bonus CD, The Rootin Tootin Luton Tapes (2 CD version) and the Get Woodfaced Tour 1991 DVD (which I don't have a copy of). Probably more too, I just can't think right now.

Up until now I was unaware of the 9:30 Club album. Was this released around the same time as the other four Neil albums? (Those being Encore!, Live in America, Live in the UK and One on One). Details please! Was there any cover art?

@Secret God (Stew)

NEIL FINN - 9.30 Club Washington DC 180702 tracklist:

01 When You Come [Crowded House]
02 Private Universe [Crowded House]
03 Anytime
04 One Step Ahead [Split Enz]
05 Wherever You Are
06 Sinner
07 Pineapple Head [Crowded House]
08 Last To Know
09 I Can't Get Started [Ira Gershwin/Vernon Duke => Bob Hope, Billie Holiday,   Bing Crosby, Frank Sinatra, ...]
10 Human Kindness (on ONE ALL)
11 She Will Have Her Way
12 Take A Walk [Split Enz]
13 The Kids Are Alright [The Who]
14 Weather With You [Crowded House]
15 Turn And Run
16 Lullaby Requiem (on ONE ALL)

Don't have the sales sheets available right now, but as far as I remember this CD was released quite some time after Encore!, Live in America, Live in the UK and One on One .

The next fan club release was recorded live at the Pantages in Los Angeles during a run of west coast shows that took place in March and April of 1989. This recording is from the first of a three night stay and what we've got here is an hour and ten minutes of a two hour show. This disc represents most (if not all) of the main set. What's missing appears to be the encore. Specifically, "Better Be Home Soon," "Now We're Getting Somewhere," "When You Come," "Sister Madly," and "Into Temptation." 

I'm of two minds about this CD because, just like Live on the Rooftop, it includes audio errors that make it basically unlistenable. In this case, the recording has been sped up to the point that everything is noticeably too fast and too high pitched. I owned this recording for a good 15 years without listening to until one day I got around to putting it into a computer program that adjusted the pitch back to normal. Only then was I able to fully enjoy the show. My only remaining complaints about the sound are that there's a bit of tape hiss and the snare drum is a bit shrill, which wears down the ears about halfway through.

The skeptic in me wants to dismiss the Tour of Low Men as being little more than a rehash of the 1987 tour to support the debut. After all, you switch out the Enz tracks from the '87 tour and replace them with tracks from Temple and it's basically the same show. But I'll be darned if I didn't just have the best time listening to this performance multiple times over the weekend. The band is on fire. They toss in a verse of Paul Kelly's "Leaps and Bounds" as well as "All I have to do is Dream," and play "Burnt Out Tree/Play This Game," a song so rare that it only finally appeared as a Woodface demo on the deluxe edition in 2016. 

This is the first recording of the band performing with Mark Hart on keyboards and at this point he's sticking to the basics. Not a lot of improv and not prominently featured in the mix (although I bet he did a terrific piano solo during "Sister Madly" [not included]). Paul does his rendition of the Brady Bunch theme, something he did frequently during this tour as an intro for "This Is Massive." It's fun stuff! Let's see what was in the newspaper the next day:

And then there's this concerning the second and third shows:

Thanks, Beth!

Overall rating without correcting the audio: 1 (out of 5) - unenjoyable!

Overall rating after correcting the audio: 4 (out of 5) - quite enjoyable!

Another great review! The accompanying newspaper articles were a great addition too.

I haven't listened to Marcia, Marcia, Marcia! for a while, so couldn't remember / hadn't noticed the issues you brought up... but now you've mentioned it it's going to be hard to listen to haha.

May I ask what program you use to generate the tracklists and cover art?

Looking forward to your review of Detroit Rock City, if that is in fact the next on your list.

What software did you use to correct the pitch? Was it automated? I’m well aware of AutoTune and other pitch correction plugins but I’ve never tried them on ensemble performances.

Back in the day I pitch-corrected the Live At the Ritz bootleg, which was a similar situation...not listenable in its native form, but a wonderful show once corrected. But I did the correction manually back then, playing each track against square waves and adjusting accordingly. I would hope there’s a more automated solution today.

I believe I used SoundForge back in the day. I basically created one wav file for the entire concert and then reduced the speed of the recording until I could play along with my (in tune) guitar. Then split it back into individual tracks.

My track listings are just screen shots of my iTunes. Speaking of which, let's talk about Detroit Rock City!

This is a good one! This is the sort of disc I think most of us imagine when we think about the fan club releases. Woodface-era, Great sound quality, good mix of hits and rarities. Out of the 24 live Crowded House shows released by the fan club, half of them are from the Woodface tour! I spent all weekend listening to this CD and loved every minute of it.

This show comes from the middle of the band's US tour. It's before Tim leaves but after Mark joins. In case you aren't aware, the band played the Australia and New Zealand dates with Tim (no Mark) then played the US and Europeans dates with both Tim and Mark and then kicked Tim out and played the UK dates and a second Australian tour with Mark (no Tim). After all that, Crowded House returned to Europe to play festival dates with Mark and Tim often joined for a couple songs at the end as a surprise guest. Yeah, it gets confusing.

What's more confusing is what the heck Tim is doing during the vast majority of these songs. When a song needs a keyboard player it's Mark. When a song needs additional electric guitar, guitar tech Arlo fills in. That leaves few musical duties for Tim. Sometimes he plays a helpful acoustic guitar while Neil plays electric (There Goes God) and sometimes plays an unnecessary second acoustic guitar (Weather With You). But other times he's just stuck on the tambourine. Half the time I wonder if his guitar is even turned on.

But I digress, because I'm still thrilled that Tim is here and even though there's no reason to play "Six Months in a Leaky Boat" to an American audience of Crowded House fans, I'm glad they did it. Tim also plays "How'm I Gonna Sleep" from his Tim Finn album. Though I'm not sure I believe him when he says, "there's been a request, I'll just do a bit of it, it's been a long time since I've played it ," and then proceeds to play the entire song because it hasn't been that long since he's played it. It was the lead single from the album he just finished promoting like one year before this gig. But it is a good song and I end up being a little annoyed with the rest of the band for not just learning it and playing along (like they're too cool for "How'm I Gonna Sleep" or something). I think it's a hard thing being Tim Finn touring as part of Crowded House. You have to try not to be too Tim Finn but it's literally the only thing you know how to do.

There are some epic performances on this disc. "When You Come" really stands out along with "Whispers & Moans" and "Don't Dream it's Over." One song that doesn't really stand out (but should) is "Weather With You." There's a distinct difference between how the band played this song before it was a hit and how they played it after. The song's got two great hooks: its chorus and its electric guitar part. For whatever reason Neil chooses to ditch the guitar part until the song becomes a massive hit and then he's like, "oh, I guess I should play that massively hooky guitar part that everyone loves." But right now he just kinda noodles around around on his acoustic during the intro. The song has none of the energy that will come to define it in later years.

Can you believe "This is Massive" is on this disc too? Why was the fan club so determined to ram that song down our throats? It seems like it's on every single disc! I kid, it's a good song, but there's not that much to it, is there? Paul does get to play Neil's acoustic guitar with his brushes which is confusing until you realize that's what you're hearing. And it is a song about Paul's first time masturbating. Thanks, Tim ;-)

We get three fan club discs from the Tim-era and the next one takes place just five days later in Montreal. We'll review that one next.

Overall rate: 5 (out of 5)

In2FINN2 posted:

@slowpogo back in the day Cool Edit Pro / Cool Edit 2000 was perfect for pitch-correcting (among loads of other recording/editing capabilities); take a look at this demo on Time Stretch in Cool Edit pro https://youtu.be 

Yup, I used Cooledit back in the day, and currently mix and record with Cubase Artist. I have plenty of options to change pitch manually... I was just curious if there's software that can listen to an ensemble performance (not just a lead vocal track, for example), detect the key automatically and correct the pitch. Googling around a bit, it seems there really isn't such a thing yet, which is surprising.

Our second show featuring Tim Finn comes to us courtesy of a performance in Montreal titled Taxi because Paul yells out "Taxi" in the opening of "There Goes God." This was something Paul was prone to do in concerts around this time.  Couldn't say why. What's neat is that if you combine the best tracks from this performance with the best tracks from the Detroit show, five days earlier, you pretty much have a complete show. Though we're probably missing "World Where You Live" and "Love You 'til the Day I Die" which were certainly performed at one if not both gigs.

They speak french in Montreal, so get ready to wear your berets and hear the band's best "je nes se quois" this and "merci beaucoup" that. This is a great show, but not as great as Detroit. First off, someone is playing fast and loose with the reverb dial. "Weather With You" starts with no reverb on the guitar and then there's a ton. "When You Come" starts with lots of reverb on the vocal and it's gone. Then there's the ear piercing feedback at the end of "Now We're Getting Somewhere." None of this really ruins the show or the songs, but they can't all get 5's!

The audience is nonplused when presented with the massive mega global hits "Don't Dream It's Over" and "Weather With You" early in the set. What gets them on their feet? Why it's "Six Months in a Leaky Boat," which actually was a substantial hit in Canada, so it makes sense to play it here. My research shows it reached at least no. 2 in 1982:

That's pretty much what the US chart would have looked like in June 1982, minus "Six Months in a Leaky Boat." Borders are funny.

This is a much expanded version of "Six Months" with the epic minor key extended ending that the Canadians clearly deserve but the Americans did not.

Nice to hear Richard Thompson jamming on "Sister Madly." He was the opening act for this leg of the tour. More on that in a moment. But the best thing on this disc has got to be "Chocolate Cake." When they play "Chocolate Cake" there is no question who's band this is. It is Tim's band and he is an absolute monster when performing this song. Taking up the entire stage with his body and the entire venue with his voice. Neil's in the back playing a piano or something. It would be hard to be sure because you cannot divert your eyes from Tim. Here's a video from an earlier performance in New Zealand to illustrate my point:

Was anyone else even on that stage during "Chocolate Cake"? All I could see was Tim!

This disc also has one of my favorite versions of "Italian Plastic" where Neil refuses to continue playing the song until Mark pulls out his little red mouth organ for the interlude between verses. I don't know if you've seen Mark's little organ, but for some reason he thought he could keep it tucked away and just play keyboards but the band was not having it.

Here's the review from the newspaper the next day. Seems like the reviewer was a Richard Thompson fan. He uses a photo of Richard Thompson for some reason and calls "Sister Madly" "Systematic."

Last and least, the band plays Paul Hester's "Worms". I'm pretty sure the audience would have rather heard any other song from the band's repertoire. I guess I enjoyed "Worms" back in 1987 with Eddie Rayner on keyboard and when the shows were even more loose and crazy because the band only had one album of material, but I think they should have left it in 80's. Also Paul singing about his own death has lost much of it humor for me. =\

Rating: 4.5 (out of 5)

I think you're being a bit harsh on Live at the Rooftop. It's a sound board reel to reel that has some damage that effects the second half of the recording, being a momentary flutter that continually occurs. I've heard far worse.

State of Mind is my favourite club disc.

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