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CROWDED HOUSE
FAREWELL TO THE WORLD

Calling All Fans!!

10 Years ago this November Crowded House said a grand ‘Farewell To The World’, with their last ever live performance on the steps of the Sydney Opera House.

Were you there?

A CD & DVD release to commemorate the anniversary of this special event is currently in production and we are looking for your photos from the day.

For further details please go to www.farewelltotheworld.com

Please read the terms before sending in your photo’s

Cheers
Chris
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Ooooh! Exciting news indeed! CD AND DVD? Woooooooo hooooooo!

What a HUGE relief to hear that things are actually coming together for this. I'm counting down the days......!

Unfortunately I wasn't there either - HOW I wish that I had been.

I've been searching for others who did actually go over the past couple of months - with little success. http://frenzforum.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/7601061171/m/9311056012

I thought that here of all places, there would be at least a few people who did go - where are you all hiding? Big Grin
This has to be the BEST news I've heard in a long, long time.
I'm not sure if the artwork displayed on the web page will be the final artwork for the official release, but it sure as hell has got my juices going!
This is awesome and I am so excited that this is finally gonna be released after 10 years!!!
This has to be the ultimate testiment to the true genius CROWDED HOUSE were and a well deserved tribute to their memory.
Mmmmm.....that link doesn't work for me. What am I missing? I've downloaded Flash but it doesn't make any difference. I think it must finally be time to upgrade my ancient computer!

Oh Sweenie - just you wait until you SEE it! It is quite possibly THE (or one of) very best live Crowded House shows ever - OK, OK, so I'm verybiased but you'll see why!!

I know exactly what you mean Dazz - I'm excited about the upcoming Enz shows/remastered CD's but that's nothing compared to THIS news! I grew up with the Crowdies and I suppose the Enz were just a smidge before my time.

We've been waiting so long for this - I can't believe it's really happening. Please keep us informed Chris!

You know what this means don't you? Time to start another official countdown - only 199 DAYS TO GO! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
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Originally posted by ash1296:
Oh Sweenie - just you wait until you SEE it! It is quite possibly THE (or one of) very best live Crowded House shows ever - OK, OK, so I'm verybiased but you'll see why!!


I don't think I'd go so far as to call Farewell to the World one of the best Crowdie shows. The Corner Hotel shows were much more relaxed and musically adventurous. The Opera House was an amazing atmosphere and a special night, but FTTW wasn't the typical Crowdies live experience. However, it's good to have this show for posterity and as a reminder of the day. I will say that this DVD better include ALL the tracks from the show- there are at least 3 to 4 missing from the current video.
Yep. From memory, the missing tracks were Weather With You, Pineapple head and Throw Your Arms Around Me (maybe one more, can't remember). Weather With You was left off and a warm up gig version featured at the start of the video, but I have at least 2 different TV broadcasts, Aus and UK where the concert version is included. Throw Your Arms Around Me was included as a PG shot version on a club DVD, so that only leaves Pineapple Head unseen (apart from by the audience obviously)!
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Posted 09 May 2006 11:42 AMI don't think I'd go so far as to call Farewell to the World one of the best Crowdie shows. The Corner Hotel shows were much more relaxed and musically adventurous. The Opera House was an amazing atmosphere and a special night, but FTTW wasn't the typical Crowdies live experience. However, it's good to have this show for posterity and as a reminder of the day. I will say that this DVD better include ALL the tracks from the show- there are at least 3 to 4 missing from the current video.


I don't know why people are so wrapped up in techicalities..Farewell to the World IS one of the best Crowdie shows not because of how musically adventurous...it wasn't SUPPOSED to be that sort of show. It was one of the best shows because of the emotion of the crowd and the emotion of the band..it was their last ever gig together..THATS what made it so special!
Technicalities? What technicalities? I don't understand your choice of words referring to the quote you highlighted...Just because it was their last gig it doesn't mean it was their best. Everyone has an opinion and that it yours, fair enough. I think it was an excellent show myself but in my opinion, it wasn't the best I've ever seen. Sure, it was a grandiose occasion and all that added to the atmosphere but it was basically a greatest hits run through with not much banter.
Um, I hate to be the one throwing cold water on your enthusiasm, but that site looks a little "phishy" to me, first of all, it's full of typos, (I mean "please ensure you *the* have read the terms before sending"?) That's not the kind of phrase a professional organization would let stand. Plus, if it was really EMI, I think it would say so, not just "The Company." What is that, is it like "The Village?"

Just saying, is all. Flame away.
I don't want to contribute to this thread degenerating completely...but I have to say that while FTTW was an alright show and a special occasion and all, and I am very glad that one of their complete shows is getting an official release, it's kind of atypical. I have heard a few mediocre CH shows and FTTW certainly wasn't one of them, but of the 20 or so I've heard, I'd rank it 8th or so.

Little banter, little spontaneity or irreverence, sort of an act of closure more than purely intense performance. Again, I'm glad to see it released and will buy it the day it comes out, but I can't help but dream of a DVD of their famous London Odeon shows in 1993... Smiler
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Let's just say that from my personal perspective, it's the sheer musical and emotional release of the show that makes it so special to me.

We all have different beliefs about the show but I'm sure we all agree that it is a memorable occasion that we will (hopefully) be lucky enough to treasure for years to come....at last!

Now...we just need to wait for the 'official' confirmation this is going ahead. I'm sure we won't have to wait too long for that either!
Hexed said:
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Just saying, is all. Flame away.


I must say I had my doubts too at first because the site said so little. Also, the T&Cs seemed a bit incomplete - but I'm no copyright expert so I'll keep my mouth shut Smiler. Jaffa seems to be aware of the project, so this is likely to be a related project. The site is up again, it seems. I do hope it's all bona fide!

As I said, haven't seen the concert, but regardless of its level of technical perfection, it was the last. So if only for historical reasons it's important. And I love history Wink
Hexed, I thought the same thing as you to start with when I looked at that site.

I think the Farewell concert is probably the most atmospheric, the crowd is huge and goes off, it's in front of an Australian icon (the Sydney Opera House), the playing is well up to standard (I thought it was great) it's filmed well, and the sound is excellent. I haven't seen any other filmed concert by Crowded House that looks as good (I haven't seen them all of course, but I have seen quite a few). I'm sure others sound better, but I haven't seen one that looks as good.

Multitracks also exist for it so it can be mixed to 5.1 I don't think many other CH cocnerts would be in the same postition, filmed professionally and with multitracks for audio
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Originally posted by chrismawn:
I believe it was the Mentals Reg Mombasa that did the artork - could be wrong, but it looked very Mambo like, ala Pineapple Head single cover.


You should be right, i checked on his website and it's very similar. But i didn't find information to confirm this.
I think ( not sure ), he already did the picture for the original farewell to the world concert.

There is a new feature on farewelltotheword.com, a mailing list is available.
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Originally posted by ash1296:
That's exactly what my computer is doing when I click on that link.

I think we must be lacking something in our computers as I accessed the site on another computer and it worked perfectly....

Does anyone have an idea what could be happening as we already have Flash and it stills doesn't work!

Following the code source, it seems that this site is only testing browsers Internet Explorer and Opera, on Windows of course Smiler

Quite restrictive Frowner
But it still works on firefox Wink
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Hi

Just wanted to clarify. The release of FWTTW on DVD is an official release and has the support of the band to mark the 10th anniversary of the final show. The final track listing, packaging & the exact release date are all yet to be finalised by EMI in the UK but this should happen in the next few weeks.

Also - apologies for some not being able to get into www.farewelltotheworld.com - I have notified our IT guys at EMI in London who are looking into it.

Cheers
Chris
One more update -

The web guys have looked into it but can't seem to find any logical reason why it's not working on some computers. Before it went 'live' it was tested with IE/Firefox on Windows/PC, and Safari/Firefox on Mac, and it worked. Any way the searh continues.

In the mean time you can still send any pictures to - yourphotos@farewelltotheworld.com

A disclaimer (which can be accessed on the site) should be read before sending them in. I have cut & pasted it below. You will see your meant to acknowledge this by checking a box but I would just make reference about this on your e-mail and that you have read it and are accept these terms.

Hope this all helps
Cheers
Chris

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Originally posted by Glimmer:
I wonder if the CD will just be a highlights CD or a full concert double CD. It doesn't really matter to me as I'll just rip the audio from DVD anyway for my minidisc.


I was wondering that too... I'm expecting it to be similar to 7 Worlds Collide - I think that's the most common way of doing it...

Whichever... I know I'll end up buying both... I don't care! I am just sooo excited!!!!!!

Big Grin
For those of you yet to receive your June newsletter, here's the latest:

"Farewell to the World...on DVD! It's being worked on as we speak, Farewell to the World looks like finally being on DVD, out on the tenth anniversary of the show. Still a few things to do, so details are a bit sketchy, looks like being the FULL concert - dependent on final audio mix approval. Extra footage, interviews, photos. More details next Issue."

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Originally posted by Alx:
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Originally posted by Glimmer:
I wonder if the CD will just be a highlights CD or a full concert double CD. It doesn't really matter to me as I'll just rip the audio from DVD anyway for my minidisc.


I was wondering that too... I'm expecting it to be similar to 7 Worlds Collide - I think that's the most common way of doing it...


Hmmm... it would be a massive dissapointment for me if the concert was cropped to a single "highlights" CD.

The reason the 7 Worlds Collide CD was a patch job was because they did the whole "highlights" thing (selecting the "best" from the 2 or 3 nights the concerts were on)... & it's not like there was more than one Farewell to the World show to choose a highlights package from, but I still wouldn't put it past them.

For what it's worth, I'd always rather a full-length concert over a "highlights" package as presented on the 7WC CD. In fact my best audio recording of 7WC is the version I ripped from the DVD to MP3 (or WAV) using DVD Audio Ripper.

They can always fit the entire Farewell to the World video (plus extras) on a single DVD, so I really really hope they don't go for the ol' CD + DVD package. In that case they'd obviously have to compress the audio part to under 80 minutes, thus giving some tracks the chop (ala 7 Worlds Collide).

The only true way to release this would be for a double CD being sold by itself, and the DVD being done the justice it deserves in many ways. And if anything is to be included with the DVD it would be nice if the Melbourne warm-up show was added onto a CD.

But I don't hold much hope. I hate to be negative, but if anyone can screw this up it will be EMI. Sadly I think the only "extras" we'll get is Copy Control™...

And yes I'll still buy it anyway! Cool
I have a feeling the DVD and CD will be separate, like "7 Worlds", but I'm also guessing the CD will be a single disc. I think that's for marketing reasons more than anything else (of course), with the CD basically acting as an advertisement for the more expensive DVD.

But really, who do they think is gonna buy this stuff anyway? The tried-and-true fans, of course. I mean, I hope it creates some new fans and gets some good publicity from music mags and such, but in general live shows don't attract the casual fan, unless you're Led Zeppelin or something. So it seems especially lame for EMI to put a general public marketing spin on something like this, but I have no doubt they will.
Technically you might be able to get near 80 minutes of mainly just music onto a single CD (I haven't worked it out by timing songs yet), but you might end up sacrificing some of the banter here and there. Some of it you won't need ("Do Tina Turner one more time, Paul..") and is only worth anything visually, therefore going to be on dvd anyway.

What are yuor thoughts on editing for a single CD?
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Originally posted by ash1296:
For those of you yet to receive your June newsletter, here's the latest:

"Farewell to the World...on DVD! It's being worked on as we speak, Farewell to the World looks like finally being on DVD, out on the tenth anniversary of the show. Still a few things to do, so details are a bit sketchy, looks like being the FULL concert - dependent on final audio mix approval. Extra footage, interviews, photos. More details next Issue."

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ha ha .... "dependent on final audio mix approval" ... gee this wouldn't have anything to do with how out of key tim sang his two songs would it ? to put it diplomatically, it's only natural was not a highlight of the night.
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Originally posted by slowpogo:
But really, who do they think is gonna buy this stuff anyway? The tried-and-true fans, of course. I mean, I hope it creates some new fans and gets some good publicity from music mags and such, but in general live shows don't attract the casual fan

Until today I would have agreed with that, but having heard the news of the current sales of Dreaming the Videos and Recurring Dream, I'm beginning to wonder. I'm sure the interest in those has been generated by the Split Enz tour though, so I'd guess EMI will have a harder job with the FTTW DVD outside of Australasia.

But then again, with the release date just before Christmas (it'll be on my list!) and some good TV advertising, like Recurring Dream had, who knows? Maybe that's wishful thinking, but it is in it's way a 'greatest hits' package - which might be the kind of thing a casual fan would go for.
I dont know about the out of key singing done by Tim.... The audio mix on the VHS version of the Farewell Concert is crappy and it has nothing to do with any singing or playing by the band.
I do however have one slight doubt with Neil hitting a wrong note on his guitar right towards the ending of Dont Dream Its Over, he really messed it up (and turned to Paul, looking slightly embarassed). Will they leave it as it was or will they try to overdubb with a corrected in-studio recording???
FTTW was during a sort of "dark period" for Tim's singing. Didn't he have some kind of officially diagnosed throat ailment at this time? As great as Tim can sound, he really did not sound good for that concert, unfortunately. The VHS mix isn't good but a really clear mix will only show more clearly what bad shape Tim's voice was in, IMO.

Yeah, Neil did hit a clinker on DDIO. Personally I chalk it up to emotion and the gravity of the moment.
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Originally posted by lee rutle:
i hope it's left alone, warts an all, christ know's how many "live" albums have been "touched" up in the studio, in fact the majority of them have. the crowdies policy was to always release a club cd in it's natural raw state, mistakes as well. so for me better the devil you know


I agree completely. Studio albums exist so the band can tinker and get the sound they want. Live albums should stay true to the live experience. It's not like there were any really big howlers at the FTTW concert.
In a few interviews I've read, Neil has described his fanbase as diverse and covering all demographics, which I totally agree with. He said something like, he thinks his fans probably listen to a little Neil Young, a little Duke Ellington, a little Radiohead, a little Brahms, whatever... I guess he was trying to say that his fans are kind of well-rounded people who just happen to connect with his music, and that because much of his fanbase is word-of-mouth it can't really be pigeon-holed. Again, I think this is very true, especially looking around this forum.

Which is why the audience coverage of FTTW bugs me so much. What do we see of the audience? We see crying teenage girls, someone performing stunts and being launched into the air, people waving their hands back and forth arhythmically to the music (some with lighters if I remember correctly), a random guy singing along earnestly. From the audience footage alone, it might as well be an INXS or Justin Timberlake concert.

In no way am I trying to judge or condescend people who went to see FTTW, but the "free festival" vibe of the audience just doesn't gel at all with my experiences seeing CH and Neil perform. The audience around me on those occasions was nothing like what I see in FTTW.

This is too long Smiler, but I hope it makes sense. Anyway, I agree agd, some of the audience footage definitely makes me groan.
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Originally posted by another great divide:
i must say the only editing i want to see on the fttw dvd is the dissapearance of that stupid bloke waving that cardboard cutout of what looked like a construction worker. that was so annoying
if anything it would put me off from buying the new dvd when it comes out Mad Smiler

yeah, what is that supposed to be? I've always wondered. I thought it might have been an attempt at something similar to the big heads at the end of the I Walk Away video.
What you are seeing on the video is someone holding up a caution wet floor "Barricade Boy" like this...



Whoever is holding it has certainly stolen it from somewhere on their way to the gig.
I have to agree that it really spoils the look of the shot and would love to see it edited out (digitally maybe?) along with other shots of individuals in the crowd.

I don't mind crowd shots at all but cameras picking out individuals are a no-no on concert videos IMHO. You get their face burned onto your memory and as such are a real distraction Razzer
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Originally posted by Shaani:
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Originally posted by another great divide:
i must say the only editing i want to see on the fttw dvd is the dissapearance of that stupid bloke waving that cardboard cutout of what looked like a construction worker. that was so annoying
if anything it would put me off from buying the new dvd when it comes out Mad Smiler

yeah, what is that supposed to be? I've always wondered. I thought it might have been an attempt at something similar to the big heads at the end of the I Walk Away video.


Speaking of those big heads... is that Neil's head that is toppling over at the end of the clip? I've always wondererd that since I saw it for the first time.
Here's a very encouraging sign from Peter's latest FTTW update to the list:


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..well the Farewell to the world DVD is slowly coming together... it looks like being a great project, and apart from the live show will have some other areas...one being "..ten years on' where a lot of people from band members to those who worked on the show are interviewed, a nice chance to look back. I got my interview out of the way whilst we were in Sydney with the Enz...so mine is done..I'm ready for my closeup now!!!!!!!! (maybe not) but hey i was lit well! Think Neil and Nick get interviewed soon
and I expect Mark around the same time (assuming) .....etc etc

Also remember if you went to the show to send come copies of your Farewell to the world fan photos to this address

yourphotos@farewelltotheworld.com

They may want to use them in some way.... I'm going to dig up some of mine, as I tend to love the fan shot stuff more then the professional ..anyway if any of you took snaps now is the time to send a few in to the above address.

Next newsletter we will have a lot more information and hopefully the confirmed cover art IF it's the 'rough' cover art I got a chance to look at, it's one of the most beautiful dvd covers ...ever- so hopefully that will be it......


Great news for us Crowdie fans! At last, it really IS happening!WOOOO-HOOOOOOO! Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin
So can't wait for this dvd release, it's all very exciting, waiting for it to come out...I am of the opinion that they should just give us everything, lol, every scrap of footage, every song, every funny moment...Everything...What's the point of keeping it locked away in some vault somewhere collecting dust? Give it to the ones who will appreciate it the most...The diehard fans Big Grin
A very exciting time indeed with the Farewell to the World cd & dvd coming out. It would be perfectly timed to be released in Novemeber this year to commemorate the 10th year of the final concert of the Crowdies boys. Alot of chat of the Crowdies maybe being inducted into the ARIA Hall of Fame- another good timing but also bad timing- l don't know if l could watch the boys accept the award with no Paul. I think it would touch a cord within all of us- what could have been if the boys actually did re-group like the Enz and did a gig or two together? It won't happen without Paul... The cd & dvd and an induction into the hall of fame would be great anyhoo........ there music would continue on within the history of music. Bring it on... Crowdies forever!
Hi all...

Some things you might like to know about this project:

It is the WHOLE show, no editing except for one song that was a cover about 2 songs from the end of the show. Lots of banter. Paul talking about how he had many a good night in Sydney, Neil responding to the crowd's requests for water, making sure security didn't hammer the guy who jumped up on stage and hugged Neil (the "sweaty man"), Hessy showing his belly to the crowd, etc. Nothing has been edited out. The original VHS was a straight copy of the TV special and had to be approx. 90 minutes to fit that format. As I said, this is the whole show, two hours plus.

NO OVERDUBS. It's as it was on the night. For example, Neil's guitar lead falls out mid song, Tim's guitar is WAY out of tune at one stage when he starts the song and Neil comes over to tune it for him, bum notes are all left there. Tim's voice is fine. In the original mix it was just lower than Neil's and Neil was doing a harmony. With the harmony in a dominant place it does sound odd but Tim's pitch was fine. Sorry, but our little yellow plastic man is still there. To remove him would cost ridiculous amounts of money. But he's hardly there, really.

The DVD is a TWO DISC SET in Widescreen format. It has the entire show with the original audio mix, a new mix in stereo and a new 5.1 surround mix as well as a Neil Finn commentary soundtrack. Audio was mixed at Abbey Road in London. Sounds great.

The concert proper is on disc one and then a whole bunch of new interviews and documentaries on disc two as well as older news stories pertaining to the event and photo galleries. Nick's Artwork makes a brief appearance at the end. Paul's passing is also dealt with.

It is being released in 8 different territories (ie worldwide) and there will be 3 versions released in Aussie, special, limited, regular etc.

There are 24 songs. It is awesome. You will love it.

Release is scheduled for November 2006. Ten years to the day.

Don't ask me how I know, I just do.

Mole out.
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Originally posted by duderanch:
The DVD is a TWO DISC SET in Widescreen format.


Oh dear. Is this another instance where I'm going to be forced into a technology upgrade by Neil Finn? If so, this will be the third time! *laughs*

It sounds great. Smiler

Like MagBolt, I'd also like to know how the various versions will differ.
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Originally posted by duderanch: It is the WHOLE show, no editing except for one song that was a cover about 2 songs from the end of the show.


Mmmmmm. This has me a little worried! It sounds like Throw Your Arms Around Me. Please tell me they did not cut this song out altogether - I have been waiting so long to see it! *crosses fingers*

Apart from that - it sounds amazing! Limited Edition too? Wow. Bring it on! The countdown continues... Big Grin
Throw Your Arms Around Me or not, I am excited about this as a kid on Xmas eve. It has everything I wanted on the DVD and more plus the bonus of a Neil commentary track was something we discussed earlier on this thread but to be honest, I didn't think would happen. It has and glad to be proven wrong.

Now I have two DVDs to look forward to;
September - Simpsons 8th Season (yes, I do watch and love it. Please don't judge me...)

November - Farewell To The World. Special editon of course!

Now I've just gotta find something for August and October to look foward to. Maybe finding that elusive Frenzy remastered digipak?
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Originally posted by Kira: 23rd nov the concert was on 27 nov


The FTTW concert was actually held on November 24th 1996. It was originally planned to he held on November 23rd but due to bad weather it was postponed until the next day! Smiler

I am just sooooooo relieved to hear that TYAAM will be on there along with some other never-seen-before gems.

It's all so very exciting but there's still 125 days to go! Big Grin
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Whoo and frickin hoo. I am so excited.

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It is being released in 8 different territories (ie worldwide) and there will be 3 versions released in Aussie, special, limited, regular etc.

I hope that doesn't mean that in Europe we'll miss out on some of the special items, for example Neil's commentary, if the special editions etc are only released in Australia/NZ.

Could some light be thrown on this please?
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Originally posted by duderanch: It is the WHOLE show, no editing except for one song that was a cover about 2 songs from the end of the show.


I think I read in Mike Chunn's Stranger Than Fiction that they started an Irish traditional The Parting Glass, sort of pointing out their Irish roots. Maybe that is the one left out?
Sorry, no High Definition. Back when this was recorded, HD wasn't imagined. Actually, neither was digital video.... it was all analogue but has been digitally re-mastered to Standard Definition specs only. HD is prohibitively expensive and would not actually achieve any increase in picture quality given that it originated in SD.
Set List:

1) Mean To Me
2) World Where You Live
3) When You Come
4) Private Universe
5) Four Seasons In One Day
6) Fall At Your Feet
7) Whispers & Moans
8) Hole In The River
9) Better Be Home Soon
10) Pineapple Head
11) Distant Sun
12) Into Temptation
13) Everything Is Good For You
14) Locked Out
15) Something So Strong
16) Sister Madly
17) Italian Plastic
18) Weather With You (with Tim)
19) It's Only Natural (with Tim)
20) There Goes God
21) Edited Out - Unknown
22) Fingers Of Love
23) In My Command
24) Throw Your Arms Around Me
25) Don't Dream It's Over
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Originally posted by duderanch:
Sorry, no High Definition. Back when this was recorded, HD wasn't imagined. Actually, neither was digital video.... .

Just to be nit-picky, prosumer digital video cameras were already in widespread use by the end of 1996 and some concerts had been recorded on High Definition video (albeit analogue) for over a decade.
Quite true.

The Farewell Concert was recorded to 1-inch analogue tape, however.

When I stated that it wasn't imagined I meant that nobody would have imagined the need for a HD or Digital SD master back when this was shot. High Definition is purely a digital format. It is not possible to shoot HD in the analog domain.

Apologies for not clarifying that meaning in the original post.
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I KNEW IT!
I KNEW THAT FOXTEL CHANNEL MAX HAD CHOPPED HALF THE FWTTW CONCERT!!!!
Ch Max's version contained as follows:
1/ Mean To Me
2/ World Where You Live
3/ Private Universe
4/ Four Seasons In One Day
5/ Fall At Your Feet
6/ Distant Sun
7/ Locked Out
8/ Weather With You
9/ It's Only Natural
10/ Fingers Of Love
11/ Don't Dream It's Over

11 songs! Frowner

Good to see the DVD WILL contain more than that. Wink Bring on November! Big Grin
It was mixed at Abbey Road in London, mastered at Metropolis. There will be 3 Music Only soundtracks.

1) The new stereo mix by Tchad Blake
2) The new 5.1 mix by Tchad Blake
3) The original mix by Keith Walker

plus of course the commentary soundtrack.

As far as I'm aware it will be a full, 2 disc set for the audio cd release. Don't quote me on that one though!

I love how excited you guys all are. It makes the very loooong hours put in to it so much more worth it to hear your excitement.
I can't wait to hear a crisp, balanced, ambient mix of this show. The mix on the VHS tape is so squashed (like most VHS is) that it's hard to judge what the show really sounded like. In that mix Neil's voice is really up-front and compressed, and the backing vocals are too quiet, wayyyy off in the distance. As much as I like Neil's voice I hope it's a little more relaxed "into" the band's sound as a whole on this new mix.

duderanch, I've been waiting for something like this for years now, and when I first heard about this project my fear was that it would be given quick, quaint treatment by the record company. Now that I know the complete opposite is true, I'm really happy and excited about the whole thing. Roll on November...
You might have to become a member of the fan club first, then E-Mail PG about 'Live at the Corner'.

Crowded House "goodies" tend to 'SELL OUT' very quickly from the club. I wanted a CH item from the last club order sheet, but sadly it had 'SOLD OUT' written across it. Frowner And signed stuff! Anything that is 'signed' by the respective artist goes bye-bye very quick. Wink
Hi Billy, I think the thread which NFADDICT is refering to can be found here

Now get yourselves back on topic Wink Big Grin


It all sounds very exciting from duderanch... I'm hoping we get as much release in the UK as is being said here - I'm assuming you're talking about the Australian releases duderanch?? Please can we have the same everywhere else? Pleeeeeeassse! Big Grin
I think this whole thing is just INCREDIBLE. I've waited 10 years, wishing that someday someone would be bold enough to release the FAREWELL CONCERT in full glory. Now is the time!
I'm really excited and am very anxious to see the Artwork for both the DVD and CD releases.
I've been stalking the Amazon.com site almost everyday hoping to get a first glimpse of a new Crowded House release.
This is by far the most exciting FINN related news in a loooooong time!
All the effort and all the energy put into this DVD will be praised endlessly!
CD 1:
Mean to Me
World Where You Live
When You Come
Private Universe
Four Seasons In One Day
Fall At Your Feet
Whispers and Moans
Hole In the River
Better Be Home Soon
Pineapple Head
Distant Sun
Into Temptation
Everything Is Good For You
CD 2:
Locked Out
Something So Strong
Sister Madly
Italian Plastic
Weather With You
It's Only Natural
There Goes God
Fingers of Love
In My Command
Throw Your Arms Around Me
Don't Dream It's Over
Im very lucky to get a copy of both the dvd and cd and cant wait to see it! the dvd disc 1 looks as though it has the full gig with the five unseen songs plus audion comentary from Neil,Nick and Mark Hart!
Disc 2
20 min Doc 'Planning the event'
13 min post break up interview and feature for channel 7.
Brand new Doc feat interviews with Neil,Nick and those involved in putting together the concert Photo Gallery,plus full discography
Disc 1 125 mins
Disc 2 58 mins
Picture 16:9
Sound original Stereo Mix
Dolby Digital Stereo
DTS 5.1

Cant wait to get home and play it yipee!!
Robbie, I hope your not joking.
I hate to say it but you are my Idol as if today.
How did you manage to get both th CD and the DVD almost 2 months ahead of time?
Is there any way they will be released before the scheduled dates?
You must either be very close to someone important at EMI or related to the FINNs. In any case you MUST get down to business, watch the DVD, listen to the CD and then get back to the frenz.com and write a full review of everything.
For those of us who have to wait till late November, you are our only hope!
Okay Guys have just played the New Live CD sounding fab!
The DVD managed to play disc one listned the some of the commentary!
A guy called Laurie Zion is The Moderator
In Aukland is Neil and Nick with Miller and Lorraine the two dogs (Lorraine being Pauls dog)
On the Phone from Los Angeles is Mark Hart
Well it starts with Neil saying "Hey were here"
Nick "Neil you run like a girl"
mentions Paul always having a comfy chair!
Heres a biggie Neil mentions during Dont dream its over that the Demo of that song will be coming out on a box set next year!!)
also goes on to say that when the band left the stage some guy had managed to evade security and snuck into the dressing room!

its getting very am! here in England so im off to bed, will be looking at disc 2 later! hope this is okay for the moment
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Originally posted by robbie:
Okay Guys have just played the New Live CD sounding fab!
The DVD managed to play disc one listned the some of the commentary!

its getting very am! here in England so im off to bed, will be looking at disc 2 later! hope this is okay for the moment


Grrrr! How did you manage to get your hands on it before time! Red Face I'm jealous!!! Razzer
I dont want to spoil anything so if you dont want any spoilers look away this might be in your Christmas stocking!!!!

Okay Guys here goes.. sorry for any spelling
Disc 2
Doc1 "The Day they brought the house down"
They have David Hepworth (A UK music journalist always a big fan of the band) says something great about "Crowded House were a band you wanted to run off with like the circus"
alson you have Lawrie Zion, Michael Chugg,Peter Green(our god)Neil ,Nick (they talk about the split up)theres a lot of back stage shots.
Peter mentions that when a band splits up the community of fans drift off where as with the Crowdies we have doubled!!!it shows our love of the band!
Doc2 "Planning the Event" This is the one we have on the VHS tapes not sure if there is any added stuff? Paul is really funny at the press conference!!
Doc3 Channel 7 Witness
This has Neil playing "Private Universe" under a huge tree on a black arm chair, then in the studio playing an e-bow(guitar vibrator)
Nick is sketching away(maybe at his house)
Paul is in his studio explaining what he wants out of life talking about the band,Neil playing an Octogon singing "not the girl" then on the piano!
Theres a clip of fans watching a soundcheck at a Melbourne Pub.
The band talk about whether they are dorks!!!
some fab video of Paul with his dogs and his car.
Credits: has all the names of the people who helped with the track"Spirit of the Stairs" This sounds different to the Neil version maybe it could of been a demo?
Photo Gallery
Photos with a choice of demos of
Instinct or Italian Plastic(sounding very different)(different beat)

I just want to say who ever put this DVD together deserves a big pat on the back Thank you.

On a personal note I kinda hated Crowded House getting sucessful they were my band no one elses! a real best kept secret but there you go!
do you guys know what I mean?

On a last note i just want to say on the channel 7 witness Doc there is Paul in slow motion playing drums to Dont Dream its over at the end of the gig and you can see Tears rolling down his face, this is really heartbreaking guys I had a tear to!

"Dont Dream Its over"
Spoilers don't bother me here... so I read it!

Thanks robbie - just makes me want it all the more... and Spirit of the Stairs... ahh ahhh ahhh ... cue wild screaming!!

Sounds amazing! I really can't wait...

Is the Channel 7 part from around the time of the concert then? Yeah, I think from what you said it is, right?
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Originally posted by robbie: Yes the Witness Doc is around the time of the split up, some cool Neil stuff there.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this. Neil strumming his guitar under the tree, gorgeous shots of Lester, Neil in his house, contemplative Paul in his studio and car, Nick at home, fans getting into soundcheck...the list goes on.

And as for those different angle shots of Paul in FTTW....oh dear, get the tissues ready. I know I definitely needed them. Frowner

I'm just so glad they included THIS entire story on the DVD..it really is precious footage that deserves to be seen by as many fans as possible.
Well I've just purchased a new copy of the Farewell CD on eBay. I'm sooo excited. Have to wait for it to be shipped from UK to OZ but I don't mind.

Will let you guys know my thoughts when I listen to it.

Will be so happy to finally hear the entire concert.

My VHS copy is slowly dying. My MP3s of the concert aren't of great quality.

Finally. the real thing.
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Originally posted by robbie:
Well the DVD is 0 Region, (plays on any player)


Hmmm. Could just be boilerplate on their part (that they didn't check their facts) but both amazon UK and play.com are claiming this title is a region 2 release in the UK. Which says nothing to the potential problems some (but not all) North American consumers may have with the PAL feed off a disc from overseas.
I know there are advance copies of the CD floating around on ebay and other places...has anyone here actually heard it yet?

I'm so curious what the mixing approach will be. I hope it's along the lines of "7 Worlds Collide" -- a very true-to-the-experience, "you are there" sound, but properly mixed so that all the parts are heard clearly and the best qualities are nudged out a bit, without glossing over the reality of it.

I'm anticipating that the ending solo on "Fingers Of Love" will sound mind-blowing..... Smiler
November 24 1996 happened to be my 30th birthday (okay i'm revealing my "seniority"; i was 19 when i first heard the opening guitar of DDIO)... I had a friend living in Sydney and he was at the event. I was stuck in Toronto playing "When You Come" at an open mic night... mumbling about "the other side of the world" and "i think it's summer there now" etc.

well - do the math and you'll see i've got another big bday coming up. I couldn't ask for a better present. Thanks for the previews robbie et al.
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Originally posted by robbie:
Disc 2
...
Picture 16:9
Sound original Stereo Mix
Dolby Digital Stereo
DTS 5.1


Now that's interesting! 16:9 Widescreen!
I thought that the original footage was shot in 4:3 aspect? Can't wait to see this on a large screen plasma.
Great sound options on the disc too.

How does the video transfer look?

This DVD sounds like a No.1 seller this Christmas Wink
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but both amazon UK and play.com are claiming this title is a region 2 release in the UK.


It seems standard for online DVD retailers to asy everything is in the region they are in. Sendit universally says everything is region 2, even though most titles they sell are region 2 and 4 or 0.

People in the US should rememebr that although FTTW is region 0, it is still a PAL disc, not NTSC.
Still don't think it was one of their best performances, as usual Neil was being good for the cameras, and Mr Control of himself, which annoyed me performance wise with the Enz Reunion shows as well, when they were being filmed.
The sponteneity wasn't there, which was part of the Crowdies make-up. That hit me watching it live for the very first time and since. You just want him to break out, give it the Crowdies all, not just play really really well.

Okay I'm greedy, I want the whole essencse of the Crowdies, not just great music.

Hope you get what I mean.

That's why it'll be good when its out on DVD but its not the ultimate best of the Crowdie's performance live ever.

But as usual take what we can get, and be very thankful for it. Good seeing the whole thing in its entirety.

Glad others here have similar opinions reading through so not all alone here in my thoughts.
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I think much of CH's spontaneity came from touring often, where it's just one show after the other, and there's a feeling of, "If this doesn't work, there's always tomorrow night..." I've played on tours with various groups, and it's a completely different mindset from a single performance with lots of build-up.

FTTW had the added gravitas of being the last show ever, and one of the first they'd played together (with Paul) in over a year. So I'm sure a feeling of "Let's do this right" prevailed given the circumstances. Which IMO is totally appropriate--if it were me I'd rather give a solid, tried and true final show, than risk something falling flat on its face and being committed to tape forever.

So yeah, it wasn't as off-the-cuff as other shows we've heard, but given the entire context of things, I think it's great. I like a handful of other shows better as a whole, but many songs in FTTW stick out as being as good as they were ever performed (I've never heard them rock as hard as during Mark's ending solo on Fingers Of Love).
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People in the US should rememebr that although FTTW is region 0, it is still a PAL disc, not NTSC.


As I mentioned, that will be troublesome for some but not all US consumers. Most players now sold in US are capable of dealing with either a PAL or NTSC feed. But unless mods have been done, most players are region locked.

And I'd tend to agree that all other things being equal, were I to be offered the opportunity to own a proshot of say, Newcastle 92 v. Farewell To The World, I'd probably go with Newcastle. FTTW is a thing onto itself, a piece of spectacle the band deserved to experience and that deserved to be documented but the similarity between it and any other CH show ends with the fact that both involved all the band members and took place on a stage.

A poor musical but good cinematic analogy might be Scorcese's Last Waltz. Great document, but does it have much to do with that thing that The Band was on any given night on the road? No. Not meant to be. So for those of us who would like to be reminded of why CH once won a Brit Award for best live act, FTTW won't do it. But I'm glad to have it.
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Originally posted by together_alone:
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People in the US should rememebr that although FTTW is region 0, it is still a PAL disc, not NTSC.


As I mentioned, that will be troublesome for some but not all US consumers. Most players now sold in US are capable of dealing with either a PAL or NTSC feed. But unless mods have been done, most players are region locked.


The Canadian release next month, as well as the eventual U.S. release in 2007, will be NTSC (and region 0 or 1) so it should not be an issue unless someone goes out of their way to import an overseas version that's PAL.
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Originally posted by theworldwhereyoulive:
I don't think anyone has posted this already but:

Has anyone been to the farewelltotheworld.com site recently? They have a small clip of Mean To Me that come on when you load the page. Very cool.You should check it out!

And they cave a counter as to how long till the dvd comes out!


That's a great teaser on the site. There's is no way I'm going to be able to hold out until the American release.

Why is it, again, that the US is scheduled to be a couple of months behind the rest of the world?


The CD Tracks:

Disc: 1
1. Mean To Me
2. World Where You Live
3. When You Come
4. Private Universe
5. Four Seasons In One Day
6. Fall At Your Feet
7. Whispers and Moans
8. Hole In The River
9. Better Be Home Soon
10. Pineapple Head
11. Distant Sun
12. Into Temptation
13. Everything Is Good For You

Disc: 2
1. Locked Out
2. Something So Strong
3. Sister Madly
4. Italian Plastic
5. Weather With You
6. It's Only Natural
7. There Goes God
8. Fingers Of Love
9. In My Command
10. Throw Your Arms Around Me
11. Don't Dream It's Over
The DVD :



1. Mean To Me
2. World Where You Live
3. When You Come
4. Private Universe
5. Four Seasons In One Day
6. Fall At Your Feet
7. Whispers & Moans
8. Hole In The River
9. Better Be Home Soon
10. Pineapple Head
11. Distant Sun
12. Into Temptation
13. Everything Is Good For You
14. Locked Out
15. Something So Strong
16. Sister Madly
17. Italian Plastic
18. Weather With You
19. It's Only Natural
20. There Goes God
21. Fingers Of Love
22. In My Command