any audiophiles here want to explain to me the diffences between the 3 audio choices you get?
i've only tried the preset one, it sounds fantastic, really "live" and the drums and bass are very punchy.
Sounds in NZ has the DVD as at 24 Nov, but insisted that the special edition digipak thingy isn't available. Really enjoying the commentary
quote:Sounds in NZ has the DVD as at 24 Nov, but insisted that the special edition digipak thingy isn't available.
Ooh! Cool...will have to keep an eye open for that! Maybe it's like the Imaginary Kingdom special edition - only available in Australia. Do they have the CD, Atheleane?
My mum bought it
Hey all,
Bought both the DVD (standard edition) and the CD yesterday and have not even contemplated listening to anything else. Floods me with emotion and memories, 10 years goes quick hey! Anyway, a quick question, bought the standadrd DVD yesterday and was wondering what is better about the limited edition DVD? Cheers!
Bought both the DVD (standard edition) and the CD yesterday and have not even contemplated listening to anything else. Floods me with emotion and memories, 10 years goes quick hey! Anyway, a quick question, bought the standadrd DVD yesterday and was wondering what is better about the limited edition DVD? Cheers!
quote:Originally posted by Kare:
any audiophiles here want to explain to me the diffences between the 3 audio choices you get?
The stereo option has just the left and right channels. Dolby Digital 5.1 is a full surround sound mix and requires a compatible surround sound home theatre set-up. DTS is the same surround mix but encoded with less data compression than the Dolby Digital tracks. In theory, it should sound better but this can also depend on how well both were mastered.
I haven't got the DVD on me right now so I forgot the other two options: the original stereo mix from 1996 is there and there's the commentary. So that makes five options... or is my memory failing me?
On the Oz version at least, there are only 4 audio choices.
1. New stereo Mix
2. Original Stereo Mix
3. DTS 5.1 mix
4. Audio Commentary
1. New stereo Mix
2. Original Stereo Mix
3. DTS 5.1 mix
4. Audio Commentary
Ok. I forgot there wasn't a Dolby 5.1 track.
The new stereo mix is in Dolby Digital (that's probably what put that idea in your head Jaffaman). In theory it should sound virtually the same as the CD release, just with slightly higher fidelity (20-bit/48kHz vs. 16-bit/44kHz) and probably a little less compressed (dynamics).
Though it's probably hard to hear the difference between the two without a pretty nice system, DTS is a better surround format, at this point. It's 24-bit/96kHz, uses less dynamic compression (has louder louds and quieter quiet parts) and as Jaffaman said less data compression. For 6.1 mixes it has a discrete 6th channel for the rear center speaker, while DD's is matrixed from the L and R rears.
Though it's probably hard to hear the difference between the two without a pretty nice system, DTS is a better surround format, at this point. It's 24-bit/96kHz, uses less dynamic compression (has louder louds and quieter quiet parts) and as Jaffaman said less data compression. For 6.1 mixes it has a discrete 6th channel for the rear center speaker, while DD's is matrixed from the L and R rears.
quote:Originally posted by slowpogo:
The new stereo mix is in Dolby Digital (that's probably what put that idea in your head Jaffaman). In theory it should sound virtually the same as the CD release, just with slightly higher fidelity (20-bit/48kHz vs. 16-bit/44kHz) and probably a little less compressed (dynamics).
Dolby Digital is a data-compressed format, whereas PCM audio CDs are not, so the CD has an advantage there.
Has this DVD really got a 96/24 DTS track? If so, I'd forgotten that too...
I'm not sure if this DVD is actually 24/96, but DTS supports it, is the point I was mainly making. Whereas DD's limit is 20/48. How many DVDs currently take advantage of 24/96 DTS is something I don't know.
Yeah, you're right about the CD having an advantage. I don't have the DVD yet but I'm guessing the new stereo mix will have been mastered with less compression than the CD, and sound a little more natural that way. Most rock CDs these days are mastered bearing in mind that they will be played a lot in cars, through ipod "bud" headphones, etc. where there's external noise and too many dynamics would make for a frustrating listening experience.
Yeah, you're right about the CD having an advantage. I don't have the DVD yet but I'm guessing the new stereo mix will have been mastered with less compression than the CD, and sound a little more natural that way. Most rock CDs these days are mastered bearing in mind that they will be played a lot in cars, through ipod "bud" headphones, etc. where there's external noise and too many dynamics would make for a frustrating listening experience.
Hurrah, Hurrah, Hurrah! Have just been into town and bought my copy of FTTW. 
Got it in Music Zone but had a look to see how it was being displayed in HMV and Virgin. It's there allright if you are actually looking for Crowded House or happen to be in the C section but I was disappointed it wasn't on the lane ends or in the new release section. Not enough of a drum roll behind this methinks .... is this down to the record company
Anyway I'm going to settle down with my sat night nibbles and watch the whole damn thing. Catch you all later.
Got it in Music Zone but had a look to see how it was being displayed in HMV and Virgin. It's there allright if you are actually looking for Crowded House or happen to be in the C section but I was disappointed it wasn't on the lane ends or in the new release section. Not enough of a drum roll behind this methinks .... is this down to the record company
Anyway I'm going to settle down with my sat night nibbles and watch the whole damn thing. Catch you all later.
Gav/Semi-Detached - Yes, Sounds in NZ does have the FTTW CD.
Note sure if this has been mentioned yet but The Word magazine is running a competition for signed FTTW stuff - once you enter you get to watch an exclusive interview with Neil and Nick. Good watching
Note sure if this has been mentioned yet but The Word magazine
I've got mine too! I have to wait for Sunday night, but that's OK! I can wait one more night... 
Bought the CD today (on its official NZ release date)...and lovin' it! Anyone know why 'The Parting Glass' was dropped?
*TRAINSPOTTER MOMENT: The album was released on Parlophone rather than the customary Capitol*
Anyone know why 'The Parting Glass' was dropped?*TRAINSPOTTER MOMENT: The album was released on Parlophone rather than the customary Capitol*
during which part of concert was "parting glass" played? is it up on youtube or somewhere for us to see?
Went to sleep at about 3.30 am on sat night after watching the full concert, docs and then the concert again with commentary.
Loved it, loved it, loved it
I always loved the concert but the addition of the rest of the song list plus the in between tune ups etc makes it a much more whole experience. As always, shed a tear at the end even more poignant knowing Hessie is not here to bask in the success of this release.
Loved it, loved it, loved it
I always loved the concert but the addition of the rest of the song list plus the in between tune ups etc makes it a much more whole experience. As always, shed a tear at the end even more poignant knowing Hessie is not here to bask in the success of this release.
That's because it was an EMI UK project this time.quote:Originally posted by Semi-Detached:
*TRAINSPOTTER MOMENT: The album was released on Parlophone rather than the customary Capitol*
Hi all. I am not a techno genius by any means, so could someone who is give me a hand? I (of course) have this fantsatic DVD, and enjoyed the concert and commentary very much. However, when i went to play the second disc, it said that the disc could not be read, or something to that effect. 
. We use a playstation 2 as a DVD player, might that have something to do with it? But if so, why did the first disc play, and the second not?? Most perplexing. And disappointing. The same thing happened when i tried to watch the bonus Imaginary Kingdom DVD. Anyone who knows more about this than me (not hard 
)? Cheers.
. We use a playstation 2 as a DVD player, might that have something to do with it? But if so, why did the first disc play, and the second not?? Most perplexing. And disappointing. The same thing happened when i tried to watch the bonus Imaginary Kingdom DVD. Anyone who knows more about this than me (not hard )? Cheers.
I've had no problem playing the 2nd dsic on my PlayStation. Perhaps you just got unlucky. Could be any number of things. When was the last time you cleaned the laser lens? (Products available from any good and some bad record stores).
Kari Sprite, did you recieve the PM I sent you with regards to FWTTW DVD troubles?
My portable DVD player won’t play any duel layered DVD disks so I have the opposite problem to you, Kari Sprite. No probs with other DVD players
I've noticed that the artwork of the DVD disks for each of the editions is different on the Aust versions.
I've noticed that the artwork of the DVD disks for each of the editions is different on the Aust versions.
Sounds like a problem with your PS2 Kari... my pc DVD drive (which I have since replace with an external one!) refuses to play all DVDs bar "Dreaming - The Videos"... doesn't even know that they're there! I put it down to old age... but it's probably just tempremental! [Sometimes I can get 7WC to work though... ]
quote:Originally posted by Alx:
Sounds like a problem with your PS2 Kari... my pc DVD drive (which I have since replace with an external one!) refuses to play all DVDs bar "Dreaming - The Videos"... doesn't even know that they're there! I put it down to old age... but it's probably just tempremental! [Sometimes I can get 7WC to work though... ]
Reminds me of the trouble and grief I had with my old DVD player.
Is that the only DVD *ever* that hasn't played in your PS2 Kari? Everyone I know with a PS2 has had a lot of problems using it as a DVD player.
I don't mean to sound rude, but most people seem to get fed up with the PS2 sooner or later and just get a cheap DVD player. Maybe it's different in Australia, but they're super cheap these days, in case you don't keep up with these things. I see several basic Philips ones on ebay for US$25 (which is what I paid for the FTTW DVD itself--cheap!).
I hate it when people tell me to "just buy" something but I honestly think in this case it's good long-term advice. Especially if it will enable you to enjoy Finn material
I don't mean to sound rude, but most people seem to get fed up with the PS2 sooner or later and just get a cheap DVD player. Maybe it's different in Australia, but they're super cheap these days, in case you don't keep up with these things. I see several basic Philips ones on ebay for US$25 (which is what I paid for the FTTW DVD itself--cheap!).
I hate it when people tell me to "just buy" something but I honestly think in this case it's good long-term advice. Especially if it will enable you to enjoy Finn material
Launch PS2's had dodgy lasers apparently, same again with the first batch of the new slim PS2's. i think sony repairs them though...
Kiwi fans will be pleased to see both DVD and CD going for a cool $29.00 a piece at the Warehouse. No sign of the special edition of the DVD though.
Yeah, i got your PM, thanks N.F.Addict. .
Slowpogo, my DVD from Tim's Imaginary Kingdom wouldnt play on it either, exactly the same thing came up. But that worked on the computer, so i may have to try that. Still, it would be better on the TV. Shall have to see what i can manage with my technological ineptitude about fixing this, otherwise i suppose i'll have to look into getting a proper DVD player. Have to wait til after Xmas though, it would be a bit sus to tell Mum this one doesnt work and then not be able to tell her how i know (i'm giving her a copy of FTTW for Xmas). Still, at least the concert plays. Bit more important to have that on the good sound system etc.
Thanks for the advise everyone. Much appretiated..
.Slowpogo, my DVD from Tim's Imaginary Kingdom wouldnt play on it either, exactly the same thing came up. But that worked on the computer, so i may have to try that. Still, it would be better on the TV. Shall have to see what i can manage with my technological ineptitude about fixing this, otherwise i suppose i'll have to look into getting a proper DVD player. Have to wait til after Xmas though, it would be a bit sus to tell Mum this one doesnt work and then not be able to tell her how i know (i'm giving her a copy of FTTW for Xmas
). Still, at least the concert plays. Bit more important to have that on the good sound system etc.Thanks for the advise everyone. Much appretiated.
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Oh NO! I've had this as a pre-order on CD Universe for a month now, and suddenly, today, the alleged release date, it's on backorder. Went to amazon.ca, similarly the special edition is listed as out of stock. The HK spec edition on amazon.com is now a "special order" which says it will ship in 4-6 weeks?
I've just ordered the regular edition from amazon.ca, which seems to be all you can get right now, we'll see if the CD Universe one shows up before Christmas.
Those of you with preorders may want to check out your orders . . .
*grumble grumble grumble*
I've just ordered the regular edition from amazon.ca, which seems to be all you can get right now, we'll see if the CD Universe one shows up before Christmas.
Those of you with preorders may want to check out your orders . . .
*grumble grumble grumble*
Hi,
I got my delivered on Friday. 10 years to the day of the actual concert, so that was pretty cool.
I haven't seen it mentioned in this topic, and I know that usually photo galleries on DVD are boring 'Push the next button' affairs, but you should really have a look at this one. It's the first DVD photo gallery I've looked at right through...Twice!!
Reason: It basically an automatic slide show with 2 different audio tracks running underneath. Instinct (Demo) and Italian Plastic (Demo) (as far as I can remember). Well worth having a listen too and a bit of a bonus.
I'm wondering if this is a teaser for the boxed set Neil talks about in the commentary where he mentions a demo of "Don't Dream It's Over". Maybe it's going to be like the Split Enz boxed set with the 4/5 albums and a rare disc. Could this be Afterglow 2??!!
I got my delivered on Friday. 10 years to the day of the actual concert, so that was pretty cool.
I haven't seen it mentioned in this topic, and I know that usually photo galleries on DVD are boring 'Push the next button' affairs, but you should really have a look at this one. It's the first DVD photo gallery I've looked at right through...Twice!!
Reason: It basically an automatic slide show with 2 different audio tracks running underneath. Instinct (Demo) and Italian Plastic (Demo) (as far as I can remember). Well worth having a listen too and a bit of a bonus.
I'm wondering if this is a teaser for the boxed set Neil talks about in the commentary where he mentions a demo of "Don't Dream It's Over". Maybe it's going to be like the Split Enz boxed set with the 4/5 albums and a rare disc. Could this be Afterglow 2??!!
My copy of the DVD arrived today. I hope the wait isn't too much longer for the rest of you who ordered from HMV (Amazon) dot CA. I get a lump in my throat evertime I watch this show. It would definitely have been my "desert island concert" if such a thing were possible.
The documentary section is very good. I can't help but get the impression that Nick still holds some resentment over the timing of the end of the band, although he and Neil remain friends.
The documentary section is very good. I can't help but get the impression that Nick still holds some resentment over the timing of the end of the band, although he and Neil remain friends.
The special edition: take away the cardboard slipcase, and it's exactly the same as the regular edition, right? I'm just wondering if I really want to spend $7 more online just for a piece of cardboard!
Picked my NTSC copy up from HMV in town today--I'm lucky I was able to track a copy down...I had to really phone around --no one was stocking it...incredible! 
Anyone who ordered the dvd or cd from an American source--should know that they will not be able to ship it until the official American release date..which...is not today. In Canada it's available today--so yay to all those who have ordered from a Canadian source.
Have watched the second disc tonight--the version of Instinct -- an unreleased demo--just fabulous, quite different from the released version.
Anyone who ordered the dvd or cd from an American source--should know that they will not be able to ship it until the official American release date..which...is not today. In Canada it's available today--so yay to all those who have ordered from a Canadian source.
Have watched the second disc tonight--the version of Instinct -- an unreleased demo--just fabulous, quite different from the released version.
Feh. Looked into ordering from amazon.ca, and it tells me if I order it today, it won't arrive till after Dec. 25th. Might as well keep my original order with CD Universe. Oh well. I'll see it eventually.
How did you find out about American sources not being able to ship Canadian imports till after the American release date? I've never heard of that sort of thing before. An import is usually an import is usually an import.
How did you find out about American sources not being able to ship Canadian imports till after the American release date? I've never heard of that sort of thing before. An import is usually an import is usually an import.
quote:Originally posted by Semi-Detached:
The special edition: take away the cardboard slipcase, and it's exactly the same as the regular edition, right? I'm just wondering if I really want to spend $7 more online just for a piece of cardboard!
The only difference I can find at least in Oz anyway between the two, unless the pic is avalible inside the regular edition cover is this inside the cardboard cover.
Other than that, the DVD case-cover looks the same to me.
I don't even know if they are selling the non-special edition box in the UK anymore... no one seems to have seen it in the shops, and I notice hmv are advertisiing it as deleted!
So I'm guessing there is no difference.. maybe it is rarer?!
So I'm guessing there is no difference.. maybe it is rarer?!
I just couldn't wait any longer, so just went for the regular edition...it seems we have no other choice here in NZ!
Have tasted a few of the morsels on this delightful package and love what I've seen so far! Will spend the weekend exploring the rest...
Have tasted a few of the morsels on this delightful package and love what I've seen so far! Will spend the weekend exploring the rest...
I ordered my copy through Amazon.UK and had it delivered to the states via Express Shipping. It only took 3 days to get there (weekend in between).
I was over excited when I walked into my Hotel room to see both packages with the FTTW CD and DVD!!! Amazing indeed!
The Bonus material on the DVD is well worth any price and I agree that the people responsible for the production deserve a special recognition. The production and editing is very professional and the backround music fits well.
Believe it or not I havent been able to get to the actual concert yet; I want sit down turn the volume wayyyy up and blow my speakers to oblivion for that show!
I was over excited when I walked into my Hotel room to see both packages with the FTTW CD and DVD!!! Amazing indeed!
The Bonus material on the DVD is well worth any price and I agree that the people responsible for the production deserve a special recognition. The production and editing is very professional and the backround music fits well.
Believe it or not I havent been able to get to the actual concert yet; I want sit down turn the volume wayyyy up and blow my speakers to oblivion for that show!
Hi guys, been a while since I've logged on (Too lazy to re register for ages!), but seeing the DVD & CDs in the shop today prompted me!
It blew the budget but I had to buy both immediately (Bless the overtime this week!), stoked to finally have the concert on the DVD, full set with yummy extras. About to go to bed and enjoy the docus first.
Been listening to the CD in the car and loving it, it will be there for a while I think...:-)
It blew the budget but I had to buy both immediately (Bless the overtime this week!), stoked to finally have the concert on the DVD, full set with yummy extras. About to go to bed and enjoy the docus first.
Been listening to the CD in the car and loving it, it will be there for a while I think...:-)