"Given To Sadness" had a date in 2012 displayed as part of the song title as it played on the web version of Mixlr so it's presumably from that time period or at least was recorded at that point.

The Liam "ballad" played was "I Found Noise At ATP" which is on the 2 disc 19 track vinyl edition of "I'll Be Lightning" that came with a CD plus a download code for a bonus 20th track back in the day (11 years ago now!)

The other Liam song I heard I think was "Real Late" from his 2011 "FOMO" album.

The track featuring Mick Fleetwood was titled "Not Like Other Men" - what a curio that is! Mick related in a recent interview that he'd shown Neil some of his musical ideas and Neil had worked on them and come up with a song or songs. This may be one of those, and likely is, otherwise it would go back to the recording sessions for the "Lightsleeper" record.

Really appreciating these insights that would otherwise be unheard.

 

Appreciate the responses @The Ligature.

Looks like Given to Sadness is actually titled Give Into Sadness. Interesting about the 2012 tag. Maybe a candidate for the follow-up to Intriguer? Although if that was the case you'd think it would have appeared on the Intriguer reissue bonus disc in 2016. It doesn't have a Pajama Club feel at all, and would likely have been too early for Dizzy Heights. @Jaffaman?

Was the "Liam ballad" (I Found Noise At ATP) actually included in the showreel? I couldn't seem to find Real Late either. I thought the only Liam song played was Turn Up the Birds? (a really heavy jam with little melody, so very odd if Neil was referring to this as the ballad.) Perhaps I had a "man look" so will check again...

Was great that Neil shared one of the songs he's working on with Mick Fleetwood. We Are Not Like Other Men sounds like a fully completed song to me. I actually thought it was Neil who mentioned in an interview that Mick had been sending him music to work on, but perhaps it was Mick who mentioned it after all.

Anyhow, here's how Neil described it during the broadcast.

"A song that's on the fringes, I probably shouldn't really be playing, with the wonderful Mick Fleetwood playing some beautiful stringed instrument. I won't say too much about it; I shouldn't really be playing it..."

Secret God (Stew) posted:

Appreciate the responses @The Ligature.

Looks like Given to Sadness is actually titled Give Into Sadness. Interesting about the 2012 tag. Maybe a candidate for the follow-up to Intriguer? Although if that was the case you'd think it would have appeared on the Intriguer reissue bonus disc in 2016. It doesn't have a Pajama Club feel at all, and would likely have been too early for Dizzy Heights. @Jaffaman?

Was the "Liam ballad" (I Found Noise At ATP) actually included in the showreel? I couldn't seem to find Real Late either. I thought the only Liam song played was Turn Up the Birds? (a really heavy jam with little melody, so very odd if Neil was referring to this as the ballad.) Perhaps I had a "man look" so will check again...

Was great that Neil shared one of the songs he's working on with Mick Fleetwood. We Are Not Like Other Men sounds like a fully completed song to me. I actually thought it was Neil who mentioned in an interview that Mick had been sending him music to work on, but perhaps it was Mick who mentioned it after all.

Anyhow, here's how Neil described it during the broadcast.

"A song that's on the fringes, I probably shouldn't really be playing, with the wonderful Mick Fleetwood playing some beautiful stringed instrument. I won't say too much about it; I shouldn't really be playing it..."

So cool.  Is the song with Mick Fleetwood on the regular show from yesterday or the pre-show?  I only see the regular show posted.

Secret God (Stew) posted:

Appreciate the responses @The Ligature.

 I couldn't seem to find Real Late either. I thought the only Liam song played was Turn Up the Birds? 

Now that I think about it Liam's "Real Late" must have aired among the four hours of tunes Neil played before starting the broadcast. There was also a nice unreleased Pajama Club live "TNT for 2" recorded at the Oxford Art Factory in Sydney in there. He covered a lot of ground over the six hours.

 

I hate to complain about “too much” Neil Finn content, but I just don’t have time for hours of radio show. I plan to check in when he makes important announcements and stuff (provided someone provides a time code) but surprisingly, I’m just not feeling up to tracking down this demo or that amidst the hours of content. Fans are a difficult bunch, eh?

I enjoyed listening to what I could, today at work.  And next time I have my daughter and the live show comes on, it will be appointment listening. So I need to remain vigilant.

if I needed to stop the show I could (and did, repeatedly.   Mostly to rewind a bit), and it was most enjoyable. A morning with Neil Fang, so to speak. I'm lucky I get to listen at work.  Aren't those others within earshot fortunate as well!

glum I missed some.  Have a great rest of the weekend, off.

 

 

Shadowman posted:

@Secret God (Stew) The Liam song in the showreel is definitely I found noise. Not turn up the birds. Turn up the birds actually is a gentle ballad 😁. One of his best...

Thanks for the clarification! Having not heard those I'll Be Lightning bonus tracks I wasn't aware. Having attempted to identify the song through Shazam, it came back with Turn Up the Birds. Thanks Shazam...

The Ligature posted:

Now that I think about it Liam's "Real Late" must have aired among the four hours of tunes Neil played before starting the broadcast. There was also a nice unreleased Pajama Club live "TNT for 2" recorded at the Oxford Art Factory in Sydney in there. He covered a lot of ground over the six hours.

That makes more sense. However during the broadcast Neil referred to I Feel Noise at ATP as "a lovely ballad from Liam" which threw me off, as it's definitely not a ballad! That made me think there was another Liam played that I missed, and made me second-guess whether We Are Not Like Other Men was in fact Liam!

Missing out on hearing Liam's Real Late isn't the end of the world, as that is available on his 2011 FOMO album. Unless it was a different version of course?

Interesting that a live version of Pajama Club's TNT For 2 was played. The only live material of them I have is the Melbourne Corner Hotel show, and while listenable, it's not soundboard. That would have been great to hear.

slowpogo posted:

I hate to complain about “too much” Neil Finn content, but I just don’t have time for hours of radio show. I plan to check in when he makes important announcements and stuff (provided someone provides a time code) but surprisingly, I’m just not feeling up to tracking down this demo or that amidst the hours of content. Fans are a difficult bunch, eh?

Same :-)

to Perfectchord posted:
slowpogo posted:

I hate to complain about “too much” Neil Finn content, but I just don’t have time for hours of radio show. I plan to check in when he makes important announcements and stuff (provided someone provides a time code) but surprisingly, I’m just not feeling up to tracking down this demo or that amidst the hours of content. Fans are a difficult bunch, eh?

Same :-)

It is very easy to play back the archived stream and skip around, which is what I did.  It’s easy to skip through what you don’t want to listen to.  I listened to (my edited version of) the latest broadcast in the predawn hours, in the dark, before I got out of bed, and it was like listening to a late night radio call in show.    It took me much less than two hours, and I still managed to hear the two unreleased Neil tracks, all the Skype calls, and everything else Neil said. I recognized many of the other songs Neil played pretty instantly, and skipped through most of them.  I heard the Cornucopia of Flowers back when Neil first did that series, so I skipped through that too.  It doesn’t have to take an enormous amount of time, and it’s always a treat to hear Neil answer questions from fans and get a sense of what music he likes.  I am so very grateful he’s doing this!  But you can listen without it taking up vast amounts of time.

 

Nah, the only time I really have is while driving and I can’t be constantly fiddling with my phone, or at least I don’t want to be. It’s partly a time/convenience thing, but also, I guess I’m just not that motivated. Maybe the light of my fandom has grown dimmer. I’m intrigued and excited by whatever’s going on with Crowded House but can’t be bothered with the radio show right now.

It did surprise me that he has been able to have the time to make these so long. I love that he thinks about spending time with us Frenz/fans when he is on the road. I am happy to have the choice of tuning in if I can or listening later when at a more convenient time. Like the format of not having to watch but I missed viewing the chatter when I listened to the recording.  I am also pleased he posted the playlists too. Thought it was good he chose to answer the Mark Hart question live too as he didnt have too.  Waiting for the musical guests to appear too (hint hint) thanks as always Neil !!! cant wait to see what next year will bring. Hopefully more CH beyond Bluesfest!! 

Paināporo posted:

Loving "Who's In Control". Really curious about its origins. I can't tell if it's Together Alone era or Woodface era. I bet someone here can shed some light.

So you're ruling out it being recorded during the sessions for the aborted 5th album, Time on Earth, Intriguer and post-Intriguer?

I agree though, it's a very strong song, at least the two and a haf minutes we heard of it.

While we're on the subject, did anyone figure out what era Give Into Sadness was recorded?

Edit: Never mind, Give Into Sadness was listed as 2012 on Neil's website. So sometime post-Intriguer and post-Pajama Club, but prior to Goin' Your Way and Dizzy Heights.

Secret God (Stew) posted:
Paināporo posted:

Loving "Who's In Control". Really curious about its origins. I can't tell if it's Together Alone era or Woodface era. I bet someone here can shed some light.

So you're ruling out it being recorded during the sessions for the aborted 5th album, Time on Earth, Intriguer and post-Intriguer?

I agree though, it's a very strong song, at least the two and a haf minutes we heard of it.

While we're on the subject, did anyone figure out what era Give Into Sadness was recorded?

Edit: Never mind, Give Into Sadness was listed as 2012 on Neil's website. So sometime post-Intriguer and post-Pajama Club, but prior to Goin' Your Way and Dizzy Heights.

It just sounds to me like the style of demo Neil was doing in the early 90's. I could be totally wrong.

sinner62 posted:

Wow, great 3rd show, Neil's Animal vs Human demo and a Crowded House unreleased track called Who's In Control, a cut on the deluxe editions short list but cut. What treasures.

This song was never on the shortlist. I’d never heard it before. It wasn’t on any the demo tapes prior to 1997 so will be more recent. 

Paināporo posted:
Secret God (Stew) posted:
Paināporo posted:

Loving "Who's In Control". Really curious about its origins. I can't tell if it's Together Alone era or Woodface era. I bet someone here can shed some light.

So you're ruling out it being recorded during the sessions for the aborted 5th album, Time on Earth, Intriguer and post-Intriguer?

It just sounds to me like the style of demo Neil was doing in the early 90's. I could be totally wrong.

Jaffaman posted:
sinner62 posted:

...and a Crowded House unreleased track called Who's In Control, a cut on the deluxe editions short list but cut. What treasures.

This song was never on the shortlist. I’d never heard it before. It wasn’t on any the demo tapes prior to 1997 so will be more recent. 

As I suspected. I know when I first heard it I thought it sounded fairly recent and didn't consider that it could have been from the Woodface / Together Alone era.

In the broadcast Neil described it as a demo and from the home vault.

He said he "didn't know if it ended up on one of the bonus discs." Any by the "bonus discs" reference we have all assumed he was referring to the bonus discs of the 2016 deluxe versions.

Who's to say he wasn't referring to the Try Whistling This bonus disc, which included six bonus tracks? Highly unlikely, but technically he didn't specifically mention the 'Crowded House' bonus discs.

But if he was definitely referring to the Crowded House bonus discs (which we are to assume) and the song was not part of the 1985-1996 version of the band (which we are also to assume), then that leaves it being recorded between 2006 and 2011 for either Time on Earth (perhaps while it was still a solo album), Intriguer, or the aborted follow-up to Intriguer.

In that case you would think it would be considered a 'Crowded House' song rather than a 'Neil Finn' song. Unless of course it was originally demoed for Time on Earth while it was still a solo album, in which case we could consider it a solo song.

However if it *were* (in theory) released on the Time on Earth bonus CD then it would have carried the name Crowded House. This is a tough one haha.

Neil's note saying they weren't up to scratch from his perspective seems pretty reasonable. He even says he might do some of them again soon, which would be pretty cool - and slightly more in line with what he was doing earlier this year, practicing a rarity and playing it intentionally. 

Regarding opening track, he was playing electronica-type music that sounded like him tinkering in the studio. I could hear him talking in the background, moving about. I have very good studio-quality headphones that pick up pretty much everything. :-)

sinner62 posted:

Wow, I just saw the track list of requests Neil sang on Saturday's show. Sadly I missed this, but even more sadly see the requests have been edited out of the archived show reel. Did anyone manage to capture this? PM? 8-(

I too am grateful for Neil taking time out from grief to give and share moments songs and memories of his Ricardo. I heard about a third of the show believing it would be totally uploaded but alas am left wanting. I missed most of it but now feel the following days meals for a friends get together could’ve waited 🙄 ah hindsight where are you ? So if there is a recording or snip it of the requests I don’t feel they’re as rough as Neil feels they are. After all, all great tunes and feels have a magical innocence no polish can capture.  IMO Neil can do no wrong. 

c.houser posted:

It was a great program. I ended up staying up all night and totally missed Saturday and college football (required viewing).  And I'd do it again.

It sure was wonderful. It was Saturday morning in Europe, which made things easy and was just about the perfect start into the weekend. I was in bed with a cup of tea when he played Faster Than Light because it contains the line "in England it's morning" and said he's picturing Brits in bed with tea and toast. I think he is doing such a wonderful job with these broadcasts. I feel very lucky. 

His version of Chris Isaak's Wicked Game was divine, too. 

Mica posted:
c.houser posted:

It was a great program. I ended up staying up all night and totally missed Saturday and college football (required viewing).  And I'd do it again.

It sure was wonderful. It was Saturday morning in Europe, which made things easy and was just about the perfect start into the weekend. I was in bed with a cup of tea when he played Faster Than Light because it contains the line "in England it's morning" and said he's picturing Brits in bed with tea and toast. I think he is doing such a wonderful job with these broadcasts. I feel very lucky. 

His version of Chris Isaak's Wicked Game was divine, too. 

Only one of the most haunting and sexiest song ever. Am truly disappointed I missed Wicked Game and sung by Neil 😣 oh well. Perhaps another day time or year. Should’ve dropped the cooking and burnt the sauce 🙃  From now on will only log into Fangradio with no expectations. 

Totally missed that there was a new Fangradio on Tuesday. No talking, all demos. Listening to it now!

https://www.neilfinn.com/fangradio

Neil Finn - Wrinkles (demo)
Neil Finn - Sign of Life chords (demo)
Far Away Children (demo)
Neil Finn - Start Of Something (demo)
Finn Brothers - Everyday Alright (demo)
Neil Finn - The wind was on the withered heath
Finn Brothers - Gentle Soul (demo)
Neil Finn - Don’t Stop Now (home demo)
Neil Finn - Far Side Of The World (demo)
Neil Finn/Dixie Chicks - Silent House (demo)
Neil Finn - Corporate Mindset (demo)
Crowded House - Beautiful Life (studio version)

Neil Finn - Human Kindness (demo)
Neil Finn - Spy Theme (demo)
Neil Finn’s Cornucopia of Flowers - Hyacinth
Neil Finn - All God’s Children (demo)
It’s Happening
Neil Finn - You And I Know
Elroy (demo)
Deco 1 (demo)

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