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Just bought the new Erasure equivalent of the Split Enz DVD. ALL 35 videos are present (so no secret band meeting to decide which videos to throw out) and 3 hours of extras. I ask you which is the bigger band, Split Enz right? platinum records, Hammersmith odeon gigs, Crowded House, where as Erasure had 1 top twenty hit single in Australia. Which DVD sucks for value? Split Enz.
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Check out the Split Enz DVD Thoughts thread where someone unfavorably compared the Enz DVD to the Something for Kate DVD. The responses from Peter Green et al. apply to the Erasure comparison too.

Also, Erasure had much more chart success in Britain and America than Split Enz, and therefore (whether we like it or not) many people would regard Erasure as the "bigger" band -- in commercial terms anyway.
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Originally posted by Si:
[qb] Just bought the new Erasure equivalent of the Split Enz DVD. ALL 35 videos are present (so no secret band meeting to decide which videos to throw out) and 3 hours of extras. I ask you which is the bigger band, Split Enz right? platinum records, Hammersmith odeon gigs, Crowded House, where as Erasure had 1 top twenty hit single in Australia. Which DVD sucks for value? Split Enz. [/qb]
Sorry Si, but you clearly haven't done your research here mate. The SE DVD release was a budget release and it is to Peter Green's and the bands credit that they crammed in as much as they did.

I would still rate the Split Enz DVD as my fav music DVD so far and one of my fav DVD releases period.

Who the **** would want to buy and watch 35 Erasure videos anway?
Why are we having this conversation?

Peter and the members of Split Enz put out a Kick A$$ DVD... PERIOD! It was assembled with respect, love and affection for the band. I DEFINATELY got my money's worth... some of these videos I had NEVER even seen before.

Perhaps there is an Erasure fan site you can rave about this "BIG 35 video" DVD to?
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Originally posted by Si:
[qb]at least you are given the option to watch any of Erasure videos if you want to (even though most of the later ones are much worse than "never ceases to amaze me"), with SE DVD you are not.[/qb]
Si, how many DVD's do you see being released by 70's artists. Especially by bands like the Enz who weren't huge worldwide. I'm hugly grateful and very happy that we got a SE DVD at all.

And how can you haggle over two or so video clips not being featured when we do get to see Spellbound, a new audio track exclusive to this release, over an hours rare live footage, sound clips and info on and from all the albums and a massive collection of posters and photos.

How anyone can be so pedantic about such a great release bewilders me. It's also a bit of an insult to all the love and hard work that Peter and co put into it.
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[qb] Good point Jeremy, but at least you are given the option to watch any of Erasure videos if you want to (even though most of the later ones are much worse than "never ceases to amaze me"), with SE DVD you are not. I paid $33AUS for Erasure, how much was SE when it first came out? [/qb]
I'm just curious to know where you get the idea that artists are obligated to re-release their back video catalogue in their entirety. It sounds to me like you think that you got dudded because you didn't get all the clips.

What about the inclusion of the doco and the other good stuff? Doesn't that come into the price equation? I'd gladly trade these awful (for mine) clips so that the doco, the live stuff, even the easter eggs, made it instead.

The material is basically the artists intellectual property. So isn't it up to the artist to decide what is and isn't worthy of inclusion on a release, rather than a consumer with a fetish for completism being antagonistic about not getting something they weren't even promised? Surely 20 years of revision on a body of work of that size would make an artist not want to enshrine some elements, like 10%, of their back video catalogue to DVD. What's the big deal?

I paid $35 for mine exactly a year ago, and I guarantee you that I would have paid double that if it cost double. HNR on VHS aside, I would never ever have seen any of this material if it wasn't for that DVD. That someone would go through the labour of love to produce something like that on a limited budget for a 70s/80s band impresses me greatly. And to think that someone would ignore all that and suggest it "sucks for value" over losing a few clips... that just completely bloody boggles the mind.

Paul.
If somethings worth doing it's worth doing properly. My favourite video "next exit" and one of my favourite songs was left off, otherwise I would have considered buying it. It's as simple as that. Am I the only purchaser out there that decides whether or not to buy something on the track listing? I don't know anything about the rest of the DVD and apart from your guys biased rave reviews I have nothing to go on. Put the DVD contents on tv, so I can have a look and decide whether it's worth having
Yeah there is a reason why Erasure's DVD sells for $12 at Dixon second hand stores.....

Hmm secret band meetings? Guess I missed that one... should we of filmed this for an Easter Egg.???

Happy to report that the Enz DVD will receive a gold DVD award if sales keep going the way they are, in the end I tend to let fans decide if they have enjoyed it or not, considerinng the extremely limited budget I'm happy with the result.

In your mind the Enz DVD might suck for value, in my mind Erasure simply suck!

Gryph
I just came on here to second everything everybody's said in support of the DVD. I think we're bloody lucky to have this at all. I'll put it this way, if it was just the clips (sorry Peter,) I wouldn't have bought it I did buy the vid though. It's the live footage that I bought it for, and even though I already had spellbound, I now have it in A1 quality. How many other obscure (I'm sorry, to the rest of the world the enz is obscure) 70s bands have such varied and excellent DVD releases? Skyhooks is about the only band that springs to mind, and remind me who did that one as well? Oh it was Peter wasn't it. The artists themselves have the right to make available from their catalogue whatever they like. Think yourself lucky Things was on there, and Jamboree and Hermitt Mcdermitt. None of these were on the video compilation. And a new track from a band that finished nearly twenty years ago. The DVD was 29.95 in some places and 34.95 in others, the standard Australian RRP for new DVDs.

What do you expect when you come to a forum dedicated to SPlit Enz, of course we're all going to say it's great, we like the Band.

And all this tosh about the Led Zep DVD, well it's a bit like comparing the Enz DVD to The Beatles Anthology. Commercially the bands were never in the same league.

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