I'll paste my thoughts from the other thread: 

 

For the first time, possibly ever, my thoughts are suspended. Not in a bad, or a repulsed way. But, it's just a strangely whimsical piece of music. It definitely doesn't register as a song you'd release as a first single, but maybe that's what's provoking me to think about the song so much. It's like a collage of ideas within a continuum of sound. Sorry if that sounds pretentious. Again, i've never reacted to a Finn song like this before. This is a good thing because it's definitely not boring.  

 

But, I just don't have any thoughts so far. Even by Pajama Club standards, this is a real departure from anything he has done, especially since we're discussing a lead single. 

I recognize those feet from twitter, lol. It's an ethereal Try Whistling This on a larger scale. 'there's only one way down'...it's already grabbing me after a few listens.

Originally Posted by Paināporo:

Is this a song?

That was my first reaction too.  What's with the falsetto vocals throughout?  It sounds like Neil has taken his inspiration from David Lynch's 'Crazy Clown Time'.

Originally Posted by Spencer Goode:
Umm... Wow.

That about sums up my reaction!  *laughs*

I keep oscillating between "wow" and "weird."
Originally Posted by Paināporo:

I'm sure the rest of the album isn't like this

 

You're correct, it's not. If you follow the iTunes pre-order link you can preview samples from the album. Mind you, the entire album doesn't reflect either of his solo albums and is pretty different from anything Crowded House has released. Think...Pajama Club, meets Try Whistling This with a whole lot of new stuff thrown in. 

Originally Posted by TryWhistlingThis:
Think...Pajama Club, meets Try Whistling This with a whole lot of new stuff thrown in.


That's a pretty good analogy!  I totally agree with you, although I don't think I would have been able to articulate it if you hadn't said it first.
Originally Posted by brownie:
Originally Posted by TryWhistlingThis:
Think...Pajama Club, meets Try Whistling This with a whole lot of new stuff thrown in.
 

 

 

 

Ahah - to be honest I think I was putting it pretty mildly. Frankly, it leans more toward a grander, more eccentric Pajama Club but there's some of the darker undertones of TWT there too. Sonically it's just...BOOOM! Yeah, that's about as articulate as I can get for now. 


Some of you don't have much of a sense of humor ( now I don't mean that in a bad way! )But If I hadn't always been keeping an eye out for the different and unusual, I'd still be listening to the Monkees or Herman's Hermits!

 

Wow! I AM IN AWE. As a long time follower this has grabbed me right between the eyes and made me excited ion a way I had not been for a while with Neil. Incredible.

WOW AGAIN, just listened to the 90 second sample son i tunes nz - this is so good. Best  since Try Whistling This and I think in my top 3 Finn release - Together Alone/TWT/Dizzy heights. can't wait..but I will. 

Originally Posted by Paināporo:

Is this a song?

Maybe not if you have a very narrow definition of what a song is. 

I'm happy to see Neil surprise us with a different approach and I think this is beautiful and haunting.

Actually, Painaporo, I can easily hear some of this new stuff (Dive Bomber, and a few other things I heard on the 90 second samples) fitting in quite nicely with your South Pacific Radio Gothic project.  It just seems to fit.

Yes, yes, I'm sure I love it.  But if I were out trying to entice the public to check out So. Pacific Radio Gothic, I wouldn't lead off with "Log Drums" or "Orange and Blue".  I can't imagine 90% of people hearing "Divebomber" will then being interested in hearing the rest of the album.  Very strange choice when there are clearly some amazing songs on the record.  But Neil's always been a bit perverse and I'm sure there's a lot more promotion to come.

I love it! I'm happy Neil doesn't sound the exact same as he did 10 years ago; he's got difference experiences and perspective to share with us now. Bravo to Neil for sharing his creativity with us!!! I will buy the album and listen to it with open ears and heart. 

I'm surprised at some of the reactions to this song. I felt really blown away by this. I seem to remember hearing about this song before but hadn't heard it till now. What I really like it the lack of polish particularly on the vocals. I think Neil is at his best when he is in the spur of the moment and that is what I sense from this song.

 

PS was this song previously played live?

Originally Posted by Paināporo:

Yes, yes, I'm sure I love it.  But if I were out trying to entice the public to check out So. Pacific Radio Gothic, I wouldn't lead off with "Log Drums" or "Orange and Blue".  I can't imagine 90% of people hearing "Divebomber" will then being interested in hearing the rest of the album.  Very strange choice when there are clearly some amazing songs on the record.  But Neil's always been a bit perverse and I'm sure there's a lot more promotion to come.

I like Divebomber but I would agree with you that it's not a good choice to drum up interest in the record. Neil doesn't seem very good at choosing leading singles. "Saturday Sun" was a dreadful choice that in my opinion killed Intriguer commercially, and "Don't Stop Now" was a pretty boring song to announce Crowded House's return. Divebomber is interesting but sounds like the least commercial song on the record.

Divebomber sounds exactly like a Flaming Lips song to me...surprised nobody else's mentioned that, since the Lips are probably Dave Fridmann's most famous association. And Neil's singing is very much like Wayne Coyne's falsetto warbling.

This is not a single.

This is a piece of music that I felt in my chest, in my heart beat before I made any sense of it in my head.  It made my chest feel tight and swell with emotion. 

My immediate thoughts were about how appropriate this piece of music was for Armistice, the period of remembrance in the period up to the 11th day of the 11th month when we remember those who gave their lives in battles through the ages.

I know the video clip is nothing to do with planes or battle or war, but the images of people jumping into clouds are totally thrilling, beautiful, and a bit frightening too.  For something Neil has largely done himself it is pretty amazing, rough edges and all!
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I also thought of the Flaming Lips, as well as Ween to a lesser extent. The part after the initial intro reminds me of the intro to Dire Straits' Money For Nothing as well (!)

 

FWIW I'm really impressed with this track. I'd much rather have a decisively "not pop" song as the lead single than a weak pop song like Saturday Sun.

 

 Originally Posted by slowpogo:

Divebomber sounds exactly like a Flaming Lips song to me...surprised nobody else's mentioned that, since the Lips are probably Dave Fridmann's most famous association. And Neil's singing is very much like Wayne Coyne's falsetto warbling.

 

I also thought of the Flaming Lips, as well as Ween to a lesser extent. The part after the initial intro reminds me of the intro to Dire Straits' Money For Nothing as well (!)

 

FWIW I'm really impressed with this track. I'd much rather have a decisively "not pop" as the lead single than a weak pop song like Saturday Sun.

 

 

Last edited by Byrds Talk to Me
Originally Posted by Byrds Talk to Me:

I'd much rather have a decisively "not pop" as the lead single than a weak pop song like Saturday Sun.

  

Couldn't agree more.

After a good 20 listens, I'm really starting to love this song. Such a sense of mystery and memory. I find it odd that it's track 4 though. It seems too dramatic to appear so early in the record. To me it seems the perfect last/second-to-last song but maybe it will make more sense in the context.

I don't know about Neil's marketing plans for the rest of the world, but he clearly knows how to get this forum chatting!  If he's only marketing to his obsessed fan base, then job well done!  Unfortunately, I think we were all going to buy the album any way.

Originally Posted by Spencer Goode:

       

After a good 20 listens, I'm really starting to love this song. Such a sense of mystery and memory. I find it odd that it's track 4 though. It seems too dramatic to appear so early in the record. To me it seems the perfect last/second-to-last song but maybe it will make more sense in the context.


       


That's exactly what I was thinking! It sounds like it would be a perfect album closer.

After lots of listens I'm REALLY liking this song and I'm getting more and more excited for the album. February is so far away!

I've held off from passing comment until I'd given it a few listens.

This particular song is a step too far "different" for my taste. I've not heard any of the rest of Dizzy Heights bar those featured in the webcast. From that small sample, Divebomber doesn't appear to be particularly indicative of the rest of the album. However, even if it were, I'll still end up buying it. Whether it becomes an essential part of my Finn related listening or just an interesting diversion, as with Pajama Club, is another matter entirely. I'll look forward to finding out.

What this evokes to me is Peter Gabriel, specifically "Signal to Noise." I don't mean that in terms of the songs being similar. I'm not a huge Peter Gabriel fan, but I remember, years ago, hearing "Signal to Noise" when it first came out, and feeling the unique, otherworldly weirdness of it become something remarkably dramatic and gripping. That's the same feeling I'm getting from "Divebomber." It doesn't seem to come from this planet. I don't know if I'd enjoy a whole album of "Divebomber"s, but as one track, it's incredible.

 

-Comp

Firstly, I'll qualify my post by saying that I haven't listened to/watched the video and I have no intention of doing so before release day.

 

But THIS IS NOT THE FIRST SINGLE. It's a video Neil has put together using one of his new recordings, that he's chosen to share with us as a little gift. S'all. Consider it on that basis alone and draw no further conclusions from it than that.

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