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Can anyone fill me in on why there are at least two different track listings for the Frenzy album? The one I have on CD goes as follows:

I See Red
Give It a Whirl
Master Plan
Famous People
Hermit Mcdermit
Stuff and Nonsense
Marooned
Frenzy
The Roughest Toughest Game
She Got Body She Got Soul
Betty
Abu Dhabi
Mind over Matter

but I also found this:

Frenzy (81 US A&M SP-3153) LP
1. Side One: I See Red (3:15)
2. Give It a Whirl (2:52)
3. Master Plan (3:00)
4. Betty (4:42)
5. Frenzy (2:15)
6. Stuff and Nonsense (4:30)
7. Marooned (2:15)
8. Hermit McDermitt (4:19)
9. Holy Smoke (3:15)
10. Semi Detached (5:05)
11. Carried Away (4:34)
12. She Got Body (2:55)
13. Mind Over Matter (2:52)
14. Livin' It Up (1:15)

is the latter only available on vinyl? Were any of these additional tracks released on CD? I wouldn't be surprised if this topic has been covered before but I would love to try and edit together a better Frenzy (maybe 10-12 tracks) and it seems the band may have all ready tried to re-organize it themselves.
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THe A&M version, remixed by Eddie in 1981, has never been released on CD, although "Semi Detached" and "Hermit McDermitt" made it to the "Spellbound" CD.

There was actually a third "Frenzy" line-up on vinyl. The initial Australasian pressings of "Frenzy" didn't include "I See Red":


"Frenzy" is due to be remixed again by Eddie sometime soon for reissue on CD, along with most of, if not all, the Rootin' Tootin' Luton demos, some of which appeared on side 2 of the A&M vinyl release.
The 1981 remix issue of "Frenzy" was supported by A&M in Canada, I think. I know it came out there and in the UK, and possibly not just as a bonus album with "Time and Tide". My vinyl copy, bought secondhand, seems to be a stand alone Canadian release.

Eddie is eager to remaster - and in some cases, remix - all the Split Enz albums. "Frenzy"/Luton is first on his wishlist but the start date for this project will depend on his other commitments and, I guess, a commitment from the record company. I would predict a mid-late 2006 release.
As I understand it the A&M Frenzy was released commercially in the US/Canada. A free copy was given away with the first UK/European pressings of Time & Tide, but Frenzy didn't receive a stand-alone release in Europe.

Time & Tide charted for one week in the UK at #71, maybe it was the "free album" bribe that caused this ripple.
Painaporo wrote:

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but I also found this:

Frenzy (81 US A&M SP-3153) LP
1. Side One: I See Red (3:15)
2. Give It a Whirl (2:52)
3. Master Plan (3:00)
4. Betty (4:42)
5. Frenzy (2:15)
6. Stuff and Nonsense (4:30)
7. Marooned (2:15)
8. Hermit McDermitt (4:19)
9. Holy Smoke (3:15)
10. Semi Detached (5:05)
11. Carried Away (4:34)
12. She Got Body (2:55)
13. Mind Over Matter (2:52)
14. Livin' It Up (1:15)
Jaffa, are you aware of this album floating around out there anywhere, and therefore being available second hand?

Once again, this variation is completely news to me, and I'm rather floored by it. I also love Frenzy and would love to have the chance to listen to 11. and 14. above. I visit second hand stores when I get the chance, but I don't do it often, and the results are usually disappointing.

Otherwise, fantastic news about Frenzy, and even more fantastic news about Luton Big Grin Would Luton be released as a CD, or would the songs be mixed onto compilations as sweeteners? Smiler It may be too early to tell, but its a very exciting prospect Wink
The A&M version turns up on vinyl secondhand occasionally. I see them in NZ from time to time. Try eBay, too. "Carried Away" and "Livin' it Up" both appeared as B-sides to the remix of "I Hope I Never" in Australia, so you might come across a copy of that. I found one or two in Melbourne last year. These songs and a whole lotta others from Luton were featured in "Enzology", which I'm hoping might get played on ABC Radio sometime.

The aim for the Luton Tapes is to have it all (or, at the very least, the best of it) collected together on CD for the first time ever. There's always been an audio problem with one of the Luton tape reels, so it remains to be seen whether Eddie's found a better copy yet or can do something clever to fix the glitch.
I have heard the Enzology and it is good and it is what has peaked my interest in these Frenzy tracks. I went home last night and looked through my Enz record collection, which I've never listened to since I don't own a record player, and wouldn't you know it, I actually own a copy of the A&M version with the additional Luton tracks! So now that I know I have them, all I have to do is figure out how to get them to a record player and on to my PC for iPod listening.
I'd love to have a re-ish of Frenzy but I suppose it's not likely that the original album version will ever get remastered etc. as it was. It's unfortunate since that's the only way (well, most of us) have ever heard it and since it's my favourite Enz album besides Mental Notes it would be slightly jarring to hear a new re-tooled version, although I'm sure Eddie will work sonic magic on it... I've always thought Frenzy would be ideal for a re-ish, a two disc set collecting all the Luton tracks and such, although Eddie's re-mixed A&M versions obviously complicates matters.

That said though, this is the perspectvie of someone who's never heard the A&M Frenzy or any of the Luton tracks, so to the people that DO have it, how do you find Eddie's remixed versions compare to Mallory Earl's mixes? I know it's fairly universal that Mallory did an all round crap job, so excuse me if this is a stupid question but keep in mind I haven't had the opportunity to hear the other versions.
I've never noticed a huge difference between the remixed tracks and the original versions, except for the missing cymbal crashes in Stuff & Nonsense (which I actually quite liked about the original...). I've heard the more technically-minded forum members say that it wasn't the best job on Eddie's part, but I guess there were limitations to what he could do at that time.

What's surprising me about this thread is that so many people haven't heard (or even heard of) the A&M Frenzy! No disrespect intended, but I guess I always took it for granted, with all the interest in the Luton sessions over the years, that people had it one way or the other.

I was late off the blocks myself, getting all my Enz stuff on vinyl around '86, just after they'd all been deleted in the UK ( Razzer ), but luckily my brother had all the albums, including the free Frenzy that came with Time & Tide. It was a tough one to find in the UK because it was a free extra, not always labelled as such on T&T. I found a copy myself later by luck in a second hand store - for some reason I thought to ask if the copy of T&T came with an extra disc. It did Big Grin )

Now, with all this renewed upsurge in interest, I'm feeling very guilty for just giving away all my Enz vinyl to a charity shop when I left the UK (having already converted the rarer stuff to mp3).

It is worth tracking down a copy though if you can, especially since I've learned to take any rumours of a CD release of this material with a grain of salt. It would be fantastic beyond belief if it actually happened this time, but I'm not holding my breath...
Given that I've held Frenzy in such high regard for a while now I'm a bit disappointed in myself for not tracking down the A&M version sooner. I'll be getting onto it ASAP though!

And I agree about missing the cymbal crash in Stuff & Nonsense... in fact, I'm not really a fan of Eddie's remixed version in general, even though the volumne on the Frenzy CD is diabolically low during that particular song.
The A&M re-mix of S&N is not the one that showed up on Spellbound (which I can't stand either) - it's got Tim's little All-Blacks dedication before it (as heard in Enzology before Roughest Toughest Game) and is pretty much identical to the original, though perhaps a tad louder and missing the dramatic cymbal crashes.

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