I am surprised there are not more demos etc from the Try Whistling This and One Nil era. Perhaps they are being held onto for a future release?
@harrytrousers posted:I am surprised there are not more demos etc from the Try Whistling This and One Nil era. Perhaps they are being held onto for a future release?
Deluxe editions?
@harrytrousers posted:I am surprised there are not more demos etc from the Try Whistling This and One Nil era. Perhaps they are being held onto for a future release?
Hopefully there are more demos for those albums somewhere in Neil's archive. To date, most of my audio searches have focused on Split Enz for Enzology, Crowded House for the Deluxe Editions, and whatever came my way from 2012 onwards when neilfinn.com was published. There is a bit of a gap from 1997-2000.
One more song needed for an even 10 York St Demos. There has to be one more decent song? It would have been a good album. The songs work well together. Varied yet cohesive.
- Help Is Coming
- Instinct
- Anthem
- Spirit of the Stairs
- Terrify The Ones That Love You
- Family Ties
- I Don’t Know You
- Taste of Something Divine
- Everything is Good For You
I heard the Family Ties York St demo today. Very different from the TWT demo. Sounded good. Also managed to catch the You Can Touch demo and Mean To Me writing demo, which while short, is very different. Missed the Breaking My Back demo.
Also just on, a live recording of Love Equals You by Crowded House from Ventura, September 1991.
The Poolhouse band demo of Convent Girls came up today…. Stunning…
@harrytrousers posted:One more song needed for an even 10 York St Demos. There has to be one more decent song? It would have been a good album. The songs work well together. Varied yet cohesive.
- Help Is Coming
- Instinct
- Anthem
- Spirit of the Stairs
- Terrify The Ones That Love You
- Family Ties
- I Don’t Know You
- Taste of Something Divine
- Everything is Good For You
You could close it with Walk Tall. Not a York Street demo, but from that era, as Pete is drumming and is a fun song. I agree this would be a good album, and hate that Pete didn't get a proper album during his tenure.
@Whysus posted:The Poolhouse band demo of Convent Girls came up today…. Stunning…
I would like for the poolhouse demos to be played in their entirety, perhaps as a Fangradio special, with commentary by Neil. The ones I've heard are awesome.
The studio version of the Lucky Lola version of Twice if You’re Lucky was played earlier. Really gutted that didn’t make the cut for the Deluxe version of Intriguer. It is fantastic.
@Whysus posted:The studio version of the Lucky Lola version of Twice if You’re Lucky was played earlier. Really gutted that didn’t make the cut for the Deluxe version of Intriguer. It is fantastic.
CH Mk 2 had such potential.
Hours upon hours of listening, and I have yet to hear Cemetery. Still, so much wonderful stuff!
It’s on now Steve!!
@Whysus posted:It’s on now Steve!!
Just my luck. Had to leave to go to choir practice, first time all day I've turned it off!
@Whysus posted:The studio version of the Lucky Lola version of Twice if You’re Lucky was played earlier. Really gutted that didn’t make the cut for the Deluxe version of Intriguer. It is fantastic.
This version is really just fantastic. I don't understand why it's missing from the Intriguer album, it should have been the lead single. Just as brilliant as Distant Sun. Perhaps the greatest treasure of the stream.
I love the fangradio shuffler but have heard very few rarities.... it's very tantalising. I do hope that there is some form of release for some of these gems..
Am going to start hoping for a CD or download release for these gems but ahead of all of that, I would like to say avery big thank you to Neil, Jaffa and those who have worked so hard to make this music stream - it really is a very kind and very appreciated gesture to share some of this unheard music :-)
Simply astounding to hear so much previously unreleased material. I would estimate that there could be something approaching 150+ unheard tracks currently.
Mostly demos from across Neil's career, but also a fair smattering of live material from some significant concerts e.g. Leigh Sawmill in 2008 (at least 12 additional performances so far to the seven we have previously heard).
Some amazing Split Enz-era performances (e.g. After Hours live tracks and demos), including complete versions of material that was excerpted in Enzology. Who knew that Fall At Your Feet had origins in a 1984 demo?
Live tracks from The Mullanes. Some seriously good Crowded House and Finn Brothers demos, alternative mixes etc. Lots of Neil solo demos and film music.
Don't think I've heard this Lucky Lola version yet or the studio version of Prodigal Son.
Let's hope this keeps going for a while so there's a chance to hear as much as possible of these riches.
It got a play again today - managed to hear some of it. I get the Niwhai comment - I thought there was a little bit of sacred cow about it... as I type, I look to have just missed a 2020 Crowded House demo for a track called Danger.....
@Monsieur Nick posted:I look to have just missed a 2020 Crowded House demo for a track called Danger.....
First heard on Fangradio in May 2020. https://www.fangradio.com/epis...-tuesday-19-may-2020
@David Goldsmith posted:Simply astounding to hear so much previously unreleased material. I would estimate that there could be something approaching 150+ unheard tracks currently.
Good guess. 216 previously unreleased tracks are on rotation at present. 1400 released and unreleased tracks on the current Fangradio playlist.
@Jaffaman posted:Good guess. 216 previously unreleased tracks are on rotation at present. 1400 released and unreleased tracks on the current Fangradio playlist.
Earlier you mentioned that "some of the demos were included on Neil's live Fangradio webcasts from 2019 to 2021". Are you including these in the 216 unreleased tracks? Or is this 216 new for this project?
Some of those demos are included in the 216, so they're semi-unreleased. Certainly not commercially released. There are other demos from those webcasts that I haven't added to the stream yet.
Any chance you could add the Split Enz demo of Edible Flowers?
Little chance of that. Any previously unheard Split Enz material needs to be run by the band members, and that demo’s not particularly enlightening anyway. There is another demo from that session that I’d quite like to share sometime though.
Big fan of the page! I like how it makes the rarities available, and at them same time keeps them rare. Rarities need to be hard to find... Keeps the mystique alive :-)
@Jaffaman posted:There is another demo from that session that I’d quite like to share sometime though.
Jaffa, you DO know how to keep our interests piqued!
I did finally get to hear Cemetery, so that's an item crossed off my bucket list! Fangradio playing now and anytime I'm home and awake!
@Jaffaman posted:Little chance of that. Any previously unheard Split Enz material needs to be run by the band members, and that demo’s not particularly enlightening anyway. There is another demo from that session that I’d quite like to share sometime though.
Understood. Thanks for all the wonderful work.
Good day for me, managed to hear Cemetery for the second time, Four Stepping and Good Luck Morning for the first! Still trying to catch the demo of Tall Trees, but I'm finally feeling a bit less snake-bit.
Wow - it keeps getting better and better! Just listening to the studio demo of Twisty Bass (a very different version of it). I am presuming this is a TWS demo, or does it go back as far as the CH York St sessions?? These little gems just keep popping up!
I can't thank Jaffaman and Neil enough for making this happen!
That was an unlabelled file from Neil's collection. I don't have an exact date for it but it's not from the Crowded House York St sessions. Likely to be 1997.
@Jaffaman posted:That was an unlabelled file from Neil's collection. I don't have an exact date for it but it's not from the Crowded House York St sessions. Likely to be 1997.
Hearing occasional solo demos/outtakes is one of the coolest things about this - those albums aren’t likely to get 2016 CH style deluxe versions I don’t suppose, so this is probably our best window into the process for them.
I wonder if any interesting snippets exist from the marathon piano session Neil mentioned which lead to Out of Silence.
There are Out Of Silence demos on the playlist. I don't know for sure but they might have started on that piano session.
"Gentle Dave" hasn't come my way yet. I'll ask Neil about it sometime.
In one of the original Fangradio live broadcasts Neil aired a 2013 text mix of a studio recording of "Gentle Dave". He's performed it at least a couple of times with Connan at the 2013 Dizzy Heights showcase in London, and with him at Largo in Los Angeles in 2015.
I’ve seen the audience video from London but can’t find it on my Fangradio lists. Do you know which date it aired?
I do! Took a while to locate my notes - So it was one of the songs which were played during 4 hours of music which aired pre-broadcast of the second Fangradio episode from Brisbane on 23rd August 2019 when Neil was performing there with Fleetwood Mac. It appeared titled "Gentle Dave (Test Mix A 26/8/13)" on Mixlr. There were several Fangradio episodes where an unreleased track cropped up among the music played before or after the actual episode. At that point Fangradio was just starting - there had only been a couple of brief test broadcasts and the first full Fangradio broadcast the previous week when the tour was in Sydney.
If we're tracking down Fangradio tracks which aired back in the day but haven't reached the Fangradio stream yet - there were multiple live recordings of Pajama Club at the Oxford Art Factory in Sydney (date unknown, but it was either 13th June 2011 or 14th March 2012), and also live tracks from the Sydney Opera House of Neil's Parables, Lullabies and Secrets collaboration in 2001 - both are branches of Neil's performing career that aren't out there yet. Hint hint
My notes have "TNT For Two" live as part of the pre-broadcast music, with a recording date of 13 March 2012.
Both "Gratitude And Grief" and "Far Away Children" from 2001 have been included on the Fangradio stream.
"All Shall Be Well" and "Lullaby Requiem" are another pair of songs from the Sydney Opera House in 2001 which were broadcast.
"The Game We Love To Play" was an additional live cut from Pajama Club in Sydney.
I'm also remembering at least one song from Neil's performance at Silo Park in Auckland with the Auckland Philharmonic in 2018.