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I can't believe they put CH in front of a Rage crowd. I thought for sure they would be in one of the tents. It must have been horrible for the CH fans who were undoubtadly mashed and crushed by rabid, stinking Rage fans.

But CH has seen worse. At the Tempe show, Neil said they were the headline band at what was supposed to be the celebration of Melbourne's winning bid for the 1988 Olympics. But when the announcement came, Melbourne lost to Atanta. He said the show was their worst ever and that they couldn't even finish. I don't think Coachella quite takes the award from Melbourne.

And I've seen much worse here in the U.S. I was at a Metallica concert where people were throwing metal folding chairs at the band. They stopped playing and Lars came around from the drum kit and gave the crowd the kind of tongue-lashing only Lars could give. I should mention this was at the L.A. Coliseum and there were probably 100,000 people there. He told the crowd they wouldn't play until every chair was stuffed under the stage. The crew opened the stage and a sea of chairs emerged overhead and began to flow. The band sat on the drum kit riser and watched until all the chairs were gone and then they resumed playing.
LOL--look at the YouTube clip from Friday--it's on page two of this link. This must be the impression of RATM that folks were talking about was done. The guys had them sussed out way beforehand Smiler

http://www.coachella.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8940&page=2&highlight=finn
(it's on page 2)

And you know what, watching Matt's impression of RATM's sophisticated rhythms Wink I get the feeling that as he gets comfortable he'll become a very active member of the stage dynamic. Mark can rest easy--looks like Matt will be improvising w/Neil & Nick Smiler
Hi there
im a newbie..but lurked around for a while. i wasnt at the gig but it seems that the majority were RATM fans...but thats no reason to throw a bottle at all. In my experience ..wether i´m at a concert or at a friends party there are always people who spoil it..i really dunno why that is..maybe they´re just bored or simply unbalanced in their life ( and drunk off course)
whomever it was upthread who is worrying about Bumbershoot (in light of the Coachella debacle), it should be a-ok. Seattle crowds are notoriously mellow (never mind the WTO riots of several years ago...those were mostly young anarchists imported from somewhere in Oregon). and the setup of Bumbershoot is quite different from how Coachella seems to be arranged. at B-shoot, there are several bands playing at the same time at various venues around the Seattle Center. and I haven't heard of RATM or any band being scheduled that would have similarly nihlistic, anarchistic, ugly-tempered fans en masse. anyhow, I plan to bring along a sizeable posse and we may well throw flowers at the stage when the Crowdies appear...nice, soft-petaled pretty flowers Smiler
Bottom line, some people are just jerks with out maturity and respect.
The Band was great and I am very proud to have been a fan for half of my 30 years.
Neil and Nick handled that debacle with class.
I enjoyed it immensley, being a fan who has never had the opportunity to see them live that was the closest thing to heaven for me.
I look forward to seeing them somewhere around here this year.
Soldier on boys, you do have a great American following!
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Originally posted by sunset swimmer:
whomever it was upthread who is worrying about Bumbershoot (in light of the Coachella debacle), it should be a-ok. Seattle crowds are notoriously mellow.
I plan to bring along a sizeable posse and we may well throw flowers at the stage when the Crowdies appear...nice, soft-petaled pretty flowers Smiler


I'll have my posse as well, and we will keep things in line together. It won't be the same scene by a long shot I expect, but still, let's hope they set them up well with other bands.

Actually, I would normally never do it, but after watching that Coachella scene, I'm tempted to throw flowers at the stage as well....
Well, I just got back from Coachella - I was camping and then made the 6 hour drive back. I've skimmed this thread to see what people are saying and I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents - it's a little scattered and apologies if any of it's repetitive from previous posts.

I went to the Tempe show on Thursday and it was absolutely stunning, they were on top of their game and the crowd was great despite a lack of promotion. I was surprised Weather With You was off the setlist, but that's OK... The new songs sounded fantastic. I was in the third row center and it was a dream come true, I didn't want it to end. Neil came out back afterwards and was very friendly and easy-going.

Then it was off to Coachella. Saw some good music the first two days (Bjork put on a great show) but I was mostly excited about Crowded House coming on the last day...

About an hour before CH were scheduled to come on me (and my fiance) made our way to the main stage and tried to get as close as possible and we did get pretty close during the last bit of Willie Nelson. Then there was a totally weird vibe as lots and lots of rough looking Rage fans were pushing their way through to get a good spot for Rage four hours later... It was getting really uncomfortable where we were so we conceded we'd have to go back a bit, roughly to where the security lane was about 50 feet back from the stage.

There were a few Crowdies dotted around but they were few and far between compared to the Rage fans. Maybe at the back of the field there were more - I hope so!

So when Crowded House came on the reaction was very muted. And when the bottle came during Don't Dream It's Over my heart sank. For a second I thought Neil was going to stop the show when he told the band to wait. I don't think I could have kept going if it were me. Anyway, he handled it extremely well by getting back into it and inserting the lyrical jab toward the end of the song that "the water didn't hurt me or stop me at all" or something similar. I was watching Neil when the bottle landed and it hit the mic then his chest (very nearly his face), sending the mic stand over. I could be very wrong but it looked like Neil flipped off the crowd in the direction of the bottle thrower - he raised his hand and that's what it looked like but again I could be wrong and just projecting what I would have done!

Lots more bottles flew at the band during the rest of the show, some hitting by Nick's feet. Liam tried to save the day and appeal to the crowd by doing a mental dance during one song (go Liam!). I just want to say it was a true pleasure having Liam play with CH during the Tempe and Coachella performances, and his opening set at Tempe was fantastic. He definitely inherited his father's musical talent! I bought his CD before the Tempe show ("Super Limited Edition Advance!") but haven't had a chance to listen yet.

A few last random musings:

  • They really should have sold CH T-shirts at the merch booth at Coachella - they had shirts for just about every other band! It was hard for CH fans to represent without shirts on sale! I had my CH shirt from the Tempe gig and was waving it during the show but I think it was too dark for the band to see. I only saw one other person in a CH shirt (1994 Together Alone tour), and thousands upon thousands of Rage shirts. I never knew they were so big.

  • CH were VERY badly positioned at the festival. I wish they had been on the Outdoor Stage (a smaller stage with bleachers at the back of the field) that would have suited them perfectly, maybe playing before or after Damien Rice on Sunday night, or on the main stage but during the afternoon when people are actually there to see the music rather than stake out a place for a band coming on hours later.

  • I really hope CH weren't affected too much by the ordeal. It quite upset me that someone could be so disrespectful. What a stupid thing for someone to do. It was generally an angry and hostile crowd (near the front) but regardless they played well and put on a great show. The songs sounded fantastic at the kind of volume you only get at a massive outdoor festival. Private Universe in particular was amazing.

  • During the day on Sunday there was a plane flying over the festival for several hours with a massive message trailing behind it: "CROWDED HOUSE NEW ALBUM JULY 10" - that made me happy! I got a pic if anyone's interested...

  • The Virgin Megastore was selling both the Farewell To The World CD and Recurring Dream. I peeked in a few times over the weekend and it looked like they were shifting a few. They were also offering a signed Crowded House poster in a drawing (along with other prizes) for Virgin "VIPs", i.e. anyone who spent over $20 at the store. They weren't showing the poster though.

  • Matt was brilliant! After the Tempe gig Neil said how impressed he's been and that Matt really "plays the drums with his whole body".

  • I was in the campground in the morning (must have been around 10 or 11) on Sunday when I heard CH doing their soundcheck. They played "Nobody Wants To" twice and then a little bit of Private Universe and one other song, but I forget which one. That stage is LOUD and the campground is close so I could hear pretty well. Sounded good!

  • After the Tempe show Neil asked if anyone was going to the Pomona gig. I said I was going to Coachella, so at least he knew of one fan going!

    Welcome back CH! Sorry your first big gig went the way it did. I know your summer tour will be amazing.
  • Thanks for the details about the experience, proudpom - I'm sure the band will survive and prosper, no doubt, but I'll remember the look on my son's face (a big fan) when the bottle hit Neil as we watched the webcast together.

    Rage against what exactly anyway?, indeed....

    I bet this helps them focus on the right venues and situations for the rest of the year. I hope so anyway.

    (and it sounds like even Willie Nelson wasn't exactly spared either)
    Yes, Proudpom, I also appreciate hearing a first hand account of it all.

    Thanks for being there and lending your support.

    I am also glad Neil continued on. I didn't realize there were so many more bottles thrown at the stage.

    Still infuriates me and I hate to think of the bad impression left. I hope Neil and company realize they still have a lot of fans out this way. I am sure they do after the Pomona and Tempe shows.

    Lorrie
    HOLY CRAP I AM MIFFED!

    (Taken from the website blog listed on an earlier page, a comment left by some smarta**...)

    http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/coachella_day_iii.html

    Devin O'Neill Says:
    April 30th, 2007 at 6:45 pm
    It would be easy to blame CH’s terrible reception on the impatient and ill-mannered Rage fans, but I don’t think it’s quite that simple.

    It’s a question, I think, of relevance. At the moment, we do not really give a sh*t about dated,whitebread power-pop, no matter the supposed quality of the songcraft. If your art isn’t relevant, it isn’t going to communicate with anybody.

    After all, Manu Chao was playing to the same group of fans, and with Rage’s debut even nearer, one would predict even more restlessness. That wasn’t the case; the crowd seemed to enjoy the set. They weren’t simply impatient; they were offended by the sequin-shirted crooner placed before them by some truly idiotic scheduling executive.

    I am NOT excusing the behavior of the water-bottle-thrower or the crowd in general. I am, however, asserting that the whole mess was entirely predictable. Again: if your art is irrelevant, you shouldn’t expect it to communicate with people. And it was definitely irrelevant to us.


    How rude and utterly ignorant. Please calmly proceed to the blog (which is actually a well-written account of the 3rd day of the fest) and feel free to comment with the class and dignity that CH and their fans are.

    ...But if I may be so bold as to be a bit snappy, WHAT A BLOOMIN' IDIOT! (Ok, good nowSmiler)
    oh dear God!!!

    While I do think this author is unnecessarily harsh, I have to say that it does seem CH were unsuited to the particular stage they were playing on. I agree with others who have posted here that they would have been better placed on another stage alongside more like-sounding acts.

    having said that, I agree with you Ashley, although I think "bloomin' idiot" is rather kind Smiler My description would probably have to be censored!
    quote:
    Originally posted by liz:
    oh dear God!!!

    While I do think this author is unnecessarily harsh, I have to say that it does seem CH were unsuited to the particular stage they were playing on. I agree with others who have posted here that they would have been better placed on another stage alongside more like-sounding acts.

    having said that, I agree with you Ashley, although I think "bloomin' idiot" is rather kind Smiler My description would probably have to be censored!


    Unsuited to the stage, yes. I also agree with many Frenz that they would probably have been better placed with The Decemberists, Travis, etc. earlier on in the festival.

    Bloomin' idiot though. Razzer
    Really upset by this incident - tried to handle it with the kind of grace Neil displayed, but the posting Ashley.N.F. referred to by "Devin O'Neill" on http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2007/04/coachella_day_iii.html really took the biscuit, so I posted a reply there thus (probably won't respect myself in the morning, but sometimes...):

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    Devin O’Neill’s ignorance and arrogance is breathtaking. Who is he to decide what is relevant? By what authority does he assert that Crowded House’s art isn’t going to connect with anybody? It connects to me, and many, many people I know.

    If those certain RATM fan’s don’t like CH, why shoulder there way to the front of the stage, displacing Crowded House fans, when CH were SCHEDULED to appear, then complain about the band playing at that time by throwing bottles? Can’t wait for the SCHEDULED time your favorite band is due to play, so throw a childish tantrum by throwing stuff?

    Pathetic.

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    Thanks guys for the first-hand reviews.
    This is really nothing new, sadly. Frowner
    In fact it seems to be the norm at some of these festivals and I think it's going to continue. Even our own Big Day Out is tainted. I remember reading on the BDO message boards how people were organising bottle throwing get-togethers if it was announced that a band they didn't like was going to play! Eeker
    They continue to place bands together on the bill that have no musical connection whatsoever, therefore the fans waiting for "their" band easily tire of the one performing first.
    Good on Neil and the rest of the band for handling well what must have been an upsetting moment.
    I just couldn't hold back from commenting on the blog as well. Arrogance like that absolutely boils my blood. Is it just me, or when rock music becomes some hyper-politicized it turns people into freaking wackos...It is so ironic that the type of social justice that RATM drives home in their songs can't be followed even in the least bit by their fans.... here was my comment, sorry I won't feel bad in the morning, just more pissed off.

    "Devin Devin Devin…The lack of artistic relevance certainly shouldn’t equate to throwing bottles at another band because you don’t like their music. Are you insane? Why are you trying to justify the actions of some foaming from the mouth RATM fans, who seemingly don’t even get the real message of social justice and equality. I like both bands, but my respect for CH went through the roof because of how they handled the situation with all those losers. Who are you to tell anyone what is relevant?"
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    It would be easy to blame CH’s terrible reception on the impatient and ill-mannered Rage fans, but I don’t think it’s quite that simple.

    Yes it is.

    It would be easy to blame people who do not really give a sh*t about dated, whitebread power-pop, no matter the supposed quality of the songcraft. If your art isn’t relevant, it isn’t going to communicate with anybody.

    Okay, so lets blame them.

    Those people are responsible for their own behaviour. No one else, and no thing else can or should be held accountable.

    They chose to behave like crass idiots and that's the way it came across. Stop making excuses.

    The supposed quality of the songcraft is what draws a lot of people to Crowded House.

    I don't know what "rage" is, but if it incites people to choose to do stupid things, then I don't need to know.

    I think Crowded House have some of the best fans around and I count myself lucky to be numbered amongst them.

    Thanks for the reviews of the Coachella show guys. Again Neil demonstrated what a true professional he is. He could have gotten huffy and stormed off. He could have made a decision for his own safety and chosen to leave the stage, not knowing what else may happen. But he didn't.

    He set an example which I'm sad to say was probably over the heads of a large proportion of the crowd.

    Nothing so sad as self-inflicted ingnorance.

    So endeth the sermon... Big Grin

    (sorry but it just made me really angry reading those reviews. Glad none of our crew were hurt or anything).
    Ugh. Couldn't resist posting the following comment after Devin:

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    Relevant? What is Rage (or its fans) actually doing to effect the change it advocates? It’s one thing to sing a song to a mob of fans (or toss bottles at a band that has nothing to do with the object of your hostility) but in the grand scheme of things, was anything relevant — let alone significant — accomplished? Did any of you actually go do something about your supposed anger at society and the administration upon leaving the festival?

    Don’t talk to me about relevance, because you and the band you love? Are kidding yourselves if you think you are anything remotely resembling relevant. Poseurs.
    quote:
    Originally posted by Ashley.N.F.:
    quote:
    Originally posted by N.F.ADDICT:
    As if the bottle incident wasn't enough, I have only just found out that a hand full of the audience were even giving Crowdie very rude gestures. Now I am well and truly greatful that I couldn't see it.


    How did you hear about this, NFA, and what happened? How stupid!


    I had actually forgotten about this, or blocked it out of my memory because it was so very upsetting... (and maybe don't read this post if you're upset about this situation already...)

    During one of the slower songs in the middle of the set (I honestly don't remember which one, sorry - it may have been Silent House), the few sparse fans near the front and sides started waving their arms with the music. A group of about 7 or 8 idiots all bunched together about 40 feet (rough guess) back from the center of the stage were waving their arms too but with their middle finger extended. I couldn't believe it at first and had to look over (they were about 20/30 feet to my right) about three times before I could actually believe what they were doing. I was watching the band very closely and they didn't seem to look in that direction for the few minutes it was happening. Plus it was fairly dark on the crowd too, so I hope the band didn't see it.

    There were multiple bottles thrown aside from "the big one". They all landed on the floor though, and one full bottle went through Nick's legs at one point. For those that didn't see it, he said "Good people of Coachella, lay down your arms...", and Neil said "or raise them as the case may be." Before "Locked Out", Neil mentioned that the song was featured in the film "Reality Bites", perhaps hoping to strike a chord with some of the audience. And as he announced the last song, "Better Be Home Soon", he asked people to sing along (wisely not mentioning Paul where he normally does) and said it's a simple song so you could sing it even if you don't know the words. I couldn't hear anyone singing but he seemed to at the end when he paused for the final "soon" and gave a big warm smile.

    I hate focusing on the negative aspects of the show but unfortunately it's kind of a big deal and needs to be discussed. But I'll repeat that the music was top-rate despite the bad vibes, and thanks to CH for putting on a top-notch professional show. And they did genuinely appear happy to be there and enjoying themselves, which increases my respect for CH tenfold. (and I thought I'd already maxed out my Crowdedness!).

    And as for that Devin O'Neill post, how unnecessary... Talk about rubbing salt into the wound, there's no need for that biased, arrogant and ill-informed commentary.

    I know how much the band had been looking forward to playing Coachella and it must have been soul-destroying to get that kind of reception. Scheduling was the real culprit although it shouldn't have been; people should just go and see bands they want to see! It's a shame it doesn't work like that and I hope the scheduling-powers-that-be learn from it for the future. In a press comment before the festival Neil said how he admired the lack of discrimination of genre at Coachella. Sadly it was that very lack that tainted this festival.
    That Devlin O'Neill post was necessary.

    He recognised really bad behaviour and felt he had to justify it. If he hadn't had a problem with it, he probably would not have needed to try to put himself on a front foot over it.

    I think he was telling and revealing a lot more in that post than he probably meant or wanted to. I thought it was very interesting.
    I was in the photo pit for many of the artists and since I am a huge CH fan, I was practically gnawing my own fist in anticipation of seeing them at Coachella. I had seen them on Friday in Pomona and it was fantastic.

    With a photo/press pass, you're allowed to shoot the first two songs of each artist. I noticed the crowd 'turning' just before Willie Nelson. They had marines passing out water here and there and there were a few 'surges' toward the front. I think the surges and lack of water made the crowd a bit more negative. (I said to the press guy next to me as we looked out at the crowd getting squished, 'Man that would suck.') Poor Willie-a classy legend in music and no one gave a ****. It was embarrassing. I had never heard of "Explosions in the Sky", but I listened to them and really enjoyed them. I didn't camp down front and yell "When is Crowded House coming on?". Rage fans were odd. Their energy was not positive in any way. I've been to a million shows and never had I experienced such a weird crowd vibe.

    CH came on, I got right in the front/center to take some snaps of Neil and the band and I got beaned upside the back of the head with a full bottle of water!!! I thought the crowd were yelling at the press or something and I turned around and people were laughing at me getting brained! Huh? This wasn't exactly Woodstock. I felt sorry for the band. I don't think it was the press or Neil or CH-it was just an assholian lot taking out their frustration that Rage wasn't immediately tending to their needs.

    I decided not to try to get too close for the remainder of the CH gig for fear of injury and so hung back a bit and it seemed that everyone was pleasantly enjoying them out where I was! It's so weird. I went to Coachella specifically for CH and it was as if CH were some side tent band. As mentioned, I was heartened seeing the big ass Crowded House banner over the field around 2:30pm. But there was no CH love at Coachella. To the big CH fans, the gig was a big deal. But to Coachella, it was just another band to get through. I agree that CH should have played the outdoor stage or gone on earlier in the day.

    The Feeling (my new favorite band of the moment) went on at 1:45pm and they went down really well from what I could see. I noticed that the press/VIP section was lovely until about 6pm when Paris Hilton and all the LA poseurs began gathering and taking it over. (that's when I left!)

    I hate to sound like an old fart and 'kids today'. (Although I did want to scream, 'Hey you Rage kids, get off of my lawn! CH are coming on!) But I'm just relieved that no one was seriously hurt before RATM came on.

    After CH ended, I said to my friend, 'Tough Room!' The friggin' Beatles could have gone on and rocked and it would have come across stilted and awkward with the majority of the crowd being there for Rage. Such a shame.
    This is bringing back memories of homebake when we were lucky to escape the mosh pit without injury and with all items intact. What is it about music festivals that makes people behave like animals????? After homebake, which on reflection was tame to Coachella, I won't go to another festival.

    The arrogance of people who think it is their right to behave like animals and jeapadise the safety of others is unforgivable. As it has already been said, people need to be responsible for their own actions.
    I thought it might be a risky move to put them on that bill. Looking through previous Coachella lineups, it seemed to me that the festival itself and the type of music and fan that it attracts were just at odds with everything that CH represents - and that's the key. Devin is right in one sense only - "dated whitebread power-pop" is just not what those people came to hear. Whoever booked them needs to reflect on their choice, as putting them in that lineup didn't give them much of a chance.

    However, Devin's point that it's too simple to blame the impatient ill-mannered fans only, seems to place equal blame on the promoter and almost seeks to excuse the idiots who bottled the band. Giving a finger sign to anyone is rude but an obvious enough gesture of disrespect; but throwing bottles is just hooliganism. There's the difference. If he thinks that it's anyone else's fault but the the small group of fans that started the trouble, then he is mistaken. Yes, it was the wrong band in front of the wrong audience. But the bottle-throwers had a choice in how they dealt with it, and picked the wrong option.

    Sadly, you will get a percentage of rude, arrogant idiots wherever you go, and it seems that a few were certainly making themselves known at Coachella. If I went to a festival to see CH and had to sit through a Rage Against The Machine set beforehand, I'd probably be pretty bored too, but that doesn't justify animalistic behaviour. If you're not interested in the music, just wait your turn and respect the band that has come to do an honest day's work and play for you, and respect the other fans around you who might actually be interested in it.

    While some fans here are understandably upset about the reaction and are protective of the band, I personally don't think that it will affect them too much. Neil, Nick and Mark have many many years touring experience behind them and are professional enough (and wise enough) not to let this one-off event knock them out of their stride. They played many festivals in the 80s and 90s and were often billed to appear pretty early in the day, but they ended up getting a bit of a vibe going with the fun and larking about (Paul was a master at this) and even ended up making new fans from it. I think they'll just shrug, put it down to experience and get back ASAP to doing what they do best.

    I had to smile at the description of Neil as a "sequin-shirted crooner"...a little bit unfair there!
    quote:
    Originally posted by proudpom:
    quote:
    Originally posted by Ashley.N.F.:
    quote:
    Originally posted by N.F.ADDICT:
    As if the bottle incident wasn't enough, I have only just found out that a hand full of the audience were even giving Crowdie very rude gestures. Now I am well and truly greatful that I couldn't see it.


    How did you hear about this, NFA, and what happened? How stupid!


    I had actually forgotten about this, or blocked it out of my memory because it was so very upsetting... (and maybe don't read this post if you're upset about this situation already...)

    During one of the slower songs in the middle of the set (I honestly don't remember which one, sorry - it may have been Silent House), the few sparse fans near the front and sides started waving their arms with the music. A group of about 7 or 8 idiots all bunched together about 40 feet (rough guess) back from the center of the stage were waving their arms too but with their middle finger extended. I couldn't believe it at first and had to look over (they were about 20/30 feet to my right) about three times before I could actually believe what they were doing. I was watching the band very closely and they didn't seem to look in that direction for the few minutes it was happening. Plus it was fairly dark on the crowd too, so I hope the band didn't see it.


    Ashley.N.F, I read about it over on the Coachella message board. And yes, proudpom's account of the rude gesture was correct. Eeker
    I don't know where the days have gone when you just used to stand around at a festival waiting for your favourite band to come on. If there was other bands you didn't like or didn't care for, then you just waited it out.

    I think now there are rabid groups of fans of certain bands that believe that festivals are for their band only and stuff everyone else.

    I recently saw a youtube video of My Chemical Romance having bottles raining down on them at Reading UK. (The festival also famous for bottling off the Finnish band The Rasmus after only one song.) Also, Panic At The Disco's lead singer got knocked out by a bottle at Reading as well. It was awful, whether you like the bands mentioned or not.

    I don't know why but it seems that in today's world defending your musical band of choice at these festivals is like going to war.

    How senseless. Confused

    Anyway, we know there will be many great Crowdie gigs in the future that we will appreciate and enjoy, so here's to them! Smiler
    quote:
    Davoiii,

    Sorry, man! I was just seeing if I could figure out how to get in to the chat room so I could answer that earlier question. I was trying to quickly figure it out so I could get to sleep after a late night. I didn't even notice who might be present.

    No disrespect intended!


    That's okay Romer, was just having a go at you Big Grin

    But I was thinking about this chat room, and I'm not sure many people know about it. I certainly didn't. I think it would be great if more people used it. Good way to get to know other Frenz Smiler Maybe I should start a new thread somewhere...

    "all the flickering lights"
    I didn't think I'd be able to see much of the concert, being at home with a Mac and dial-up connection and looking after my two-year-old but I actually saw about twenty seconds of the show in five second bursts! Woo hoo! Having a Mac wasn't a problem thanks to my recent discovery of the Flip4Mac program (thanks to those who recommended it) and Zoë had an afternoon sleep at just the right time, but lack of broadband meant I was reduced to seeing images like this most of the time:

    Strangely, I noticed while experimenting during the Klaxons set that Flip4Mac allowed me to save whatever video it streamed, so it's a pity I couldn't stream enough to make it worth saving anything.
    It's a regrettable incident but I am sure a lot of you can calm down, the band will take it in their stride.

    I'm afraid my opinion of festivals remains unchanged. The band you like plays a very short set, half the audience doesn't really want to hear them, and you have to stand there in the midst of an unruly mob trying to take pleasure in the delicacies of the music. I don't think festivals are the place for CH, and I don't think it is the place to go and see them unless you're prepared to put up with this kind of thing and accept that everybody's taste is different.

    Above all, I really hope this is an eye-opener to the promoters that a smaller venue tour in the UK is the best idea, not massive arenas filled with a lukewarm audience just there for a night out.
    Honestly, I just don't get being "offended" by the existence of music you chose to go see. Can't be good for one's mental health. Oh well.

    CH's music isn't relevant to RATM fans any more than RATM is relevant to me. (Although I have to say I'm pretty amused by a bunch of kids screaming "You can't tell me what the $#^& to do" because, well, someone told them to do it.)

    It's part of being in the business and the band seems to have treated it as such. Sometimes there will be drunken jerks. Just another war story, and since the guys have already paid their dues they can go play for a much more loving crowd anytime they feel like it.

    I'm officially over it.
    If someone were to ask me why I do not attend music festivals, I would point them to this particular thread. I am 40- old and irrelevant to a Rage fan. I do not like to stand for twelve hours; three days in a row in the baking sun because it only results in spider veins and a progression of my old age spots. I remember working in the record shop in back in the 80’s when I stocked the new release album from a band called Crowded House. It was a special price record in the states in order to get people to try it out – I did and it changed my life.

    Today I still go to many concerts, preferably in air-conditioned venues with available seating between bands (my sciatica acts up you know.) My ipod has Crowded House sharing space with many other artists that possibly even have fans that would be quick to judge musical relevancy. I am proud not to fall lock-step in line with what is always “pop-relevant”. I probably will not buy a My Chemical Romance cd or date Paris Hilton (unless she said yes), but I certainly would never toss a bottle at either of them. I would even listen to their entire set respectfully… well not Paris Hilton’s.
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    I'm 42. If I had known RATM, Interpol, and Kings of Leon were going to be at Coachella, I would have been there in a heartbeat. When my wife found out Bjork and Amy Whitehouse were going to be there, she implored me to drop everything we were doing, rent an RV, and make the trip. But Coachella doesn't work like that and anyone who has been there will tell you CH didn't belong there. I wish I would have stayed after the Tempe show to wait for Neil or someone in the band to warn them. I thought about it but honestly didn't think it would turn out THAT bad.
    From Texas Rose:
    quote:
    Nothing so sad as self-inflicted ingnorance.


    Exactly. The "Machine" they're raging against owes its entire existence to the fact that these neanderthals take their rage to music festivals rather than the voting booth. They only have themselves to blame for an administration that was able to steal an election by bedding down with a minority of religious extremists. They rely on the predictability that these people don't care enough to vote. That's the irony of the whole thing.

    Thank you, Crowded House, for not retreating when faced with this kind of fake mob hostility. I think they understood what it was; that it was more a reflection on the mob than on themselves, and had the dignity to not be insulted by it.

    Will look forward to the day when I'll see the band in a venue surrounded by the kind of people who value and respect the relevance of peace and beauty.

    RR

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