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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

oasis02 ·
I've been able to hear a great deal of unreleased material over the years. I always thought, and now I can confirm that Mitchell Froom's production on the first two albums is what elevated these releases from "good" to "immortal" in my case. It was just the "tone of the time"...
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Steve Shealy ·
I've always like Mitchell Froom's work, both with the Finns, and with Suzanne Vega. Though I am glad CH decided to go in another direction with Together Alone. Don't know what comes above "immortal" but TA achieved it.
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Jules007 ·
Listening to the demo's of the album are quite interesting. A majority of the songs; Oblivion, Can't Carry On, Walking On The Pier, etc., sound identical to a lot of the stuff on Split Enz final album See Ya 'Round. I can easily see that without Froom's involvement, CH could have easily gone down a similar path to that of See Ya 'Round and ended up with a mediocre unmemorable album / direction. My only regret is that CH did not include a finished version of Recurring Dream on the album...
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Re: Re-Mastered????

Jules007 ·
Hey guys....none of the albums were remastered. Not according to the interview below. Neil didn't think it was necessary. The quality output may have increased due to the transfer from analogue to digital, but that's it: ******** SDE: Let’s talk about the re-mastering/non-re-mastering of these reissues. Now Universal’s take on this was basically that they haven’t been ‘re-mastered’ because Neil didn’t think they needed to be re-mastered, but you have gone back to the tapes and retransferred...
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Re: Re-Mastered????

amjfrenz ·
Yeah, that concerned me when I read that. For me it's a concern about shelling out all this extra money for something that is not significantly better than the original. In Canada, it seems that the only way to get the CDs is through Amazon and I feel they are charging way too much and no clear indication of when they will be released. TOLM and TA are now are $60. Give me a break Amazon. I have been strongly considering going the cheaper ITunes route if all I am really getting is the bonus...
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Re: Re-Mastered????

Steve Shealy ·
I'm curious, can you not order from Amazon US? I had originally ordered from Amazon Canada, and now have it through Amazon UK. You just have to set up an account with the appropriate vendor.
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Re: Re-Mastered????

GeoffR ·
Be interested to hear your thoughts when you get them, Paul. It's very early days for me, I haven't had time to do an awful lot of listening, so will be working through them slowly over the coming weeks. I did just give Kare Kare a very quick A/B listen on the computer (bookshelf speaker) system, and the volume sounded very similar to the original, so maybe they used the original TA as a template, in terms of dynamics?
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

lavar78 ·
I love "Recurring Dream," but "I Walk Away" (the definitive version to me) is a key track on side 2 IMO. If i had to jettison a song to make room, it'd probably be "Can't Carry On." Great song for sure, but it could've been a b-side.
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

lavar78 ·
Finally listened to all of the new tracks today. Amazing! I totally agree with Oasis02 about Froom's phenomenal influence, but I can still hear the Finn magic in these tracks nonetheless. A quick rundown on the highlights: Hole in the River - great early version, I particularly love how well Paul's "still emotional" rap fits musically and thematically Walking on the Pier - I would've tried my hardest to make room for this song or at least released it as a b-side. Love the liberal use of...
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Re: Re-Mastered????

slowpogo ·
I was A/B-ing old and remastered tracks today on my phone as I rode the train. Yes, you can hear a slight reduction in dynamics but I wouldn't describe it as aggressive, it's judicious and tasteful in my opinion. In fact if I weren't directly A/B-ing the tracks -- if you just played me a track and asked, "Is that original or remastered?" -- the difference is small enough that I doubt I could identify on that basis. The new remaster of Distant Sun, for example, is actually quieter and less...
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Re: Afterglow Deluxe Reissue discussion

Aotearoa ·
I may be on my own here,but having listened to both Left Hand and Newcastle Jam on the live disc with recurring dream,the studio version's doesn't feel as good.
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Re: Afterglow Deluxe Reissue discussion

Paināporo ·
I think that's probably why in both cases the live versions were released decades before the studio versions.
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Re: Afterglow Deluxe Reissue discussion

Dazz ·
I think the bonus disc to Afterglow is the most interesting one yet (I haven't got round to TOE or Intriguer bonus discs at the moment). To be honest, I never really gave this album the proper listen it deserved. Hell, I didn't even get it when it first came out. Glad to say I was wrong to ignore it and Afterglow is a very welcome addition to the catalogue rather than an after thought I assumed it was. It's the bonus disc that really got my attention though. The last eight tracks sound like...
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

lavar78 ·
"God Lives Over the Road" (like "Lost Island" on TOE) is a different mix than the previously released version. I was shocked to hear the now familiar instrumental beginning to the song interrupted by Neil singing to me in Latin! Whoa!
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

Steve Shealy ·
I wasn't aware that this had been previously released. When and how did that happen?
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Song From The Bonus/Rarities Material

Paināporo ·
The world will forget that the first leak of "Spirit of the Stairs" was actually on an advance test pressing of Try Whistling This. And that version of the song recorded by Neil as a solo artist will always be the final finished version. It's also the best version IMHO. Funny that we now have two demo versions of the song on these sets now too. They're all enjoyable and it's fun to hear the song evolve over so many iterations. I wonder if the Neil solo version will ever get a proper release.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Song From The Bonus/Rarities Material

Sam Vimes ·
I was aware of the test pressing, but I never managed to get my sticky mitts on one. All I ever had to go on, with both Spirit and Convent Girls, were live versions.
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

Dazz ·
Well well well. Isn't the bonus disc for Intriguer just, dare I say it, intriguing? Like the bonus disc for Afterglow, this bonus disc can be heard as a 'lost' album if you want to remove the live tracks at the start (not that you would). So much great stuff on here and worthy of being on it's parent album. The demo of "Isolation" is so different to the album version that it qualifies as a new song altogether rather than an alternate demo version. "Only Way To Go Is Forwards" and "Beautiful...
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

brownie ·
I completely agree with both of these statements. I find the Intriguer version of Saturday Sun to be virtually unlistenable. There's a great song buried under there! I've listened to the Intriguer bonus material pretty much exclusively for over a week now, and I absolutely love it. Two Minutes of Silence is utterly haunting. I wonder what inspired it. Also happy beyond belief to have the original arrangements of Twice if You're Lucky and Either Side of the World back. Okay, time for me to...
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Paul H ·
So, over on Steve Hoffman's forum at http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/...-year.556292/page-17 someone mentioned that Can't Carry On appears in a longer version on the new edition. Yet it's identical to the version I've always heard on my original CD. So, does anyone recognise this shorter version and know where it comes from?
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Saskia3 ·
Does anyone know if this is the same version that was on the Australian/NZ release? To me it sounds different yet again but then it's been so long since I heard it. I had it on cassette tape and no longer have anything to play it on, I moved over to the US release when I changed to CD. I assume the change was because I Walk Away didn't follow it on that version. I do remember a long fade out. Hearing the new remastered songs makes me realise I've come a long way since my first cassette tape...
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Dazz ·
The timings listed on the original Australian Crowded House vinyl and CD were all over the place but there are not different versions or edits as such as far as I know. However your timing recollections do correspond to my vinyl label as well. Don't recall if the timings were listed on the CD but seeing as my CD copy is a later pressing it is possible it was corrected. Not sure why this happened but it's definitely not the only album suffering from wrong timings (the Led Zeppelin catalogue...
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Re: Afterglow Deluxe Reissue discussion

stuartjb ·
Was just about to post something very similar to this - you've saved me the bother! I also haven't heard the last two bonus cds yet - this is my favourite. (I found Together Alone disc 2 strangely a little disappointing - I was really looking forward to it) Isn't it a bit strange they left the York Street demo of Instinct off? I think it's better than the released version, and after all, they released spirit of the stairs and Italian plastic demos that featured on the farewell to the world...
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

Axver ·
I'm surprised at some of the criticism of "Saturday Sun" in this thread, because the alternate version just confirms for me that the shoegazy electronic distortion is what makes it such a great song and I wish more of Intriguer had that influence. It's the one Crowded House v2 song to crack my top 15, possibly top 10. The earlier version is more generic and forgettable. Anyway, interesting bonus disc. I wasn't at any of the gigs where "Only Way to Go Is Forward" was played, so I'm not sure...
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

lavar78 ·
Off the top of my head, let's see... 1. Turn It Around 2. Either Side of the World 3. Archer's Arrows 4. Falling Dove 5. Elephants 6. Twice If You're Lucky 7. Saturday Sun 8. Isolation 9. Inside Out 10. Even If 11. Amsterdam 12. The Intriguer 13. The Only Way to Go Is Forward 14. Better Things 15. Beautiful Life 16. Bound to Rescue 17. Cars Collide 18. Eyes Grow Heavy 19. God Lives Over the Road That's all I can think of...did I miss anything?
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Steven 1957 ·
Does anyone else hear a passage in Left Hand (live) about 2:15 into the song that sounds very reminiscent of the transition into the solo on Recurring Dream? I don't think it's just the guitar (Craig Hooper?) playing the same few notes, it's the tempo, drumming and overall sound, too.
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Paul H ·
The version of Left Hand on Afterglow is the poorest take of them all. Very disappointing compared to the stunning live version that appeared on Recurring Dream.
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

Steve Shealy ·
I'm a bit embarrassed. Even though the original came with lyrics, I guess I never looked too closely. The line in Archer's Arrows that I have always heard as "Kids get sand on the floor, they make it a work of art" is actually "Kids KISSING on the floor". I like my line better; I had this mental image of kids coming in sandy from the beach and getting sand all over the floor, moving it around until it makes a work of art. Kids kissing? Seems a bit creepy.
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

Mariola ·
C mon , Steve... isnt every kiss about to be sexual. Whats creepy about innocent kids kissing? My little daughter Tara (4, 5) every now and then huging and kissing (on departure or something like that) with friends (girls)... we are teaching her to be warm and tender... nothing creepy about that... I like that line in "Archers Arrows", and whole idea of it...reminds me of those paintings with little angels playing, dancing and kissing..
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

Steve Shealy ·
I think it's more "on the floor, making it a work of art". guess I'm making too much of it.
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

lavar78 ·
I love the line, but I've always thought "making too much of it" is exactly Neil's point. If you saw 2 kids kissing on the floor, you would (more than likely) appreciate the beauty of their innocence and affection. But if someone hangs a picture of the same scene in an art gallery, people pick it apart and pervert it.
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Steve Shealy ·
My debut disc was late arriving and have just been working through it. I find it kind of neat that it is practically a Mullanes album! I had a few Mullanes tracks, but the quality here is generally better, and some are new to me. Would love to see Painaporo do a Mullanes deluxe edition. Up for the challenge? I particularly like Walking on the Pier (which for some reason imported into Itunes as Walking on the River. Likewise, "The Mullanes" imported as "Mullane".), Stranger Underneath Your...
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Paināporo ·
So excited to finally have enough material to make a complete Mullanes album!!!! Here's what I came up with: Does Anyone Here Understand My Girlfriend Stranger Underneath Your Skin That's What I Call Love Can't Carry On Walking on the Spot Grabbing By the Handful (live, but edited to remove audience at beginning/end) Oblivion Walking on the Pier Now We're Getting Somewhere Love You 'Til the Day I Die (from original Mullanes demo tape but not included in the deluxe editions) Recurring Dream...
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Re: Crowded House (self-titled) Deluxe Reissue discussion

Jaffaman ·
The drums are pretty loud on those Mullanes demos. We had to use the rough mixes made in 1985 as the multi-tracks no longer exist. You can hear Neil and Nick talk about the Don't Dream It's Over demo, 21 minutes into the RNZ radio special.
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Re: Together Alone Deluxe Reissue discussion

Possessed7 ·
I much prefer the original mix for the same reason as you, Brownie. I'm not massively upset over it, but it does change the way the album leaves you. I also doubt very much that this was a creative decision, but instead a mistake. It makes me wonder who listens to these prior to getting finalised. No-one familiar with the album would let that slip by.
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Re: Intriguer Deluxe Reissue discussion

Rowan5215 ·
"Meanwhile, my three favourite songs from Intriguer are Archer's Arrows, Saturday Sun and Amsterdam. Opinions are a beautiful thing " indeed! Neil is always fantastic in his own way, just depends on which style you prefer. "That's really interesting. The first time I heard it my first thought was that it wasn't a good single. The tempo didn't change much and the chorus wasn't catchy. It's one of my top 10 Neil Finn songs, but it's strange (in a good way) that we heard it differently." this...
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Song From The Bonus/Rarities Material

stuartjb ·
I'm still dumbfounded that Instinct from York Street with Peter Jones didn't make it. It's vastly superior to the recurring dream version imo.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Song From The Bonus/Rarities Material

Paināporo ·
I mean, "Newcastle Jam" is pretty epic. Love the rocking out at the end! A big improvement over the improvised live version we've all been listening to for so long.
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Re: What Is Your Favorite Song From The Bonus/Rarities Material

Paul H ·
You think so? I much prefer the live improv. They just got in a groove on that performance that they just couldn't replicate in the studio IMO.
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Re: York St Sessions

Paināporo ·
This is basically my favorite thing to do with these new tracks - rearrange them and see if I can get some new Crowded House albums out of them. I made one that I'm quite happy with that fits between Temple of Low Men and Woodface, but that's for another thread. After playing around with track listings and sequencing for the last week or so I've come up with what I like for the last Crowded House album. I call it Something Divine and I use the Recurring Dream artwork (for now), though I'm...
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Re: The final encore

stuartjb ·
Neil said emphatically at the end " we will see you again " Nothing to worry about on that score
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Re: Lost Crowded House album finally arrived

Paināporo ·
Here are my most updated lost Crowdies albums: Does Anyone Here Understand My Girlfriend Stranger Underneath Your Skin That's What I Call Love Can't Carry On Walking on the Spot Grabbing by the Handfuls Oblivion Walking on the Pier Now We're Getting Somewhere Love You 'til the Day I Die Recurring Dream Hole in the River Don't Dream It's Over All Mullanes demos, though Love You 'til the Day I Die and Recurring Dream were not included on the bonus disc and Grabbing by the Handfuls is a live...
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Re: Lost Crowded House album finally arrived

Kittybear ·
Gove Lives Over the Road, First Movement Neil's comment on Brexit????
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Re: Q&A: Tim Finn:THE WEEKEND AUSTRALIAN MAGAZINE

Finngirl ·
Came up again as 'normal' just now when I tried, I did a copy and paste in case it goes back to 'paid' again http://www.theaustralian.com.a...4269d5a19a7e1a6adcc6 Q&A: Tim Finn, musician and composer, 64 THE WEEKEND AUSTRALIAN MAGAZINE, DECEMBER 10-11, 2016 STORY: MATTHEW WESTWOOD Your stage musical Ladies in Black is set in a Sydney department store in the late 1950s. What led you to the story? I took Madeleine St John’s novel The Women in Black to Bougainville when I was working on a...
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Re: Aria awards

N.F.Addict ·
Was it just me or was anyone else shocked last night that Neil *ALMOST* forgot about Gryph during Crowded House's induction/thank yous speech? I'm sitting here listening to it and I'm thinking "What about Peter Green? I don't think anyone has gone above and beyond MORE for Crowded House over the years then what Peter Green has." Nice to see Paul & the late Peter Jones get a mention. Hessie's absence clearly still resonates with Neil and Nick. The HoF glory belongs to Paul as much as it...
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Re: Aria awards

BlueDress ·
Hahaha, I was thinking the exact same thing... "Neil! Don't forget to thank Peter!"
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Re: Encore #2, 25 November 2016

Axver ·
I would say it's a tough call between those three and "Locked Out", "In My Command", and "Hole in the River", but no contest between "Sister Madly" and my old foe "Not the Girl". (Though I will take "When You Come" by a mile over "Italian Plastic".) Fingers crossed "Recurring Dream" finally shows up. I'll be at both of the remaining shows so I'll keep doing my updates!
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Re: Encore #2, 25 November 2016

SlickStu ·
Oh and despite saying that I love a party gig over a contemplative gig, I'm going to now contradict myself and say that I loved Not The Girl You Think You Are. It's true that I wasn't sold on this song when it was released but I've fallen in love with it since and I thought it was a great addition. ☺
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Re: The final encore

Axver ·
Soundcheck today was short, but got Recurring Dream again so fingers crossed. Here are the details: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/...tralia-3bfbb05c.html I won't update live tonight since it is being broadcast. Anyone can edit that site so somebody else can put up the set from the comfort of their home. And also watch me make a fool of myself in the front row!
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Re: The final encore

neilsknees ·
Sounds bloody good over the internet in the UK. :-)
 
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