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Re: Time on Earth Vinyl release missing?
Manufacturing delays apparently. Issue with the master, perhaps?
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Re: Am I the only one who loves 2007-2010 Crowded House?
As someone who discovered the band only in late 2017, I would be thrilled if they reunited again in any form. I have never seen them live. Seeing Neil live in September for the first time in NZ. If they reunite, no matter where the concert is, I'm buying a ticket immediately! PS I love Time on Earth. I have not explored Intriguer enough.
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You are not the only one! Of course we all miss Paulo, but this different incarnation of the band is still my favorite band! I live in hope that they reunite and make another album sometime soon. In 2007–2008, I saw them a bunch of times and another bunch in 2010. With the announcement that they are to play the Sydney Opera House show in Australia on tv pretty soon, I am still kicking myself that I didn’t go to Australia... I think it was November 2015? 2016? I’m sure that was an amazing...
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I know the feeling. In 2007, they performed 20 minutes from me, but I didn't know them then. They also performed multiple times in a major city a few hours away multiple times both tours. Kills me to think of it now!
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Personally I would disagree with the above posts regarding the 2007+ era of Crowded House. I have seen Crowded House several times (1989 Concert of the Decade, 1991, 1993, 1996 Farewell To The World) & I followed everything they did, collected everything I possibly could & I would happily say that nothing will ever beat the 1986 - 1996 era of Crowded House. They were catchy pop songs from a band that were looking for stardom, trying to get somewhere starting from nothing. The 2007 -...
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Re: Am I the only one who loves 2007-2010 Crowded House?
I also saw them in 2007 (Live On Earth) & 2010.
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I just revisited the last 2 CD's. Firstly, I find that TOE is much better than Intriguer. It seems more raw and real....as if it was more hastily created and recorded which to me makes the songs sound better. The only hiccup for me on TOE is She Called Up (the song that seemed to try too hard to be Crowded Houseish) They should have replaced that with Lost Island and it would have been a classic. Intriguer seems too polished and worked on for too long (tried the songs out on the road for too...
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I love Time on Earth, and as an album I even like it more than their debut — the debut’s first 4 tracks are classic but I don’t need the rest. None of TOE reaches the band’s greatest heights, but it’s solid all the way through & there are some really great highlights: Nobody Wants To, Pour Le Monde, People are Like Suns. I enjoy all the other songs, including You’re the One to Make Me Cry. TOE is the last album of Neil’s I really loved. I enjoyed the Intriguer process, hearing early...
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I love Don't Stop Now and Nobody Wants To, among others on that album. I'm looking forward to seeing Neil perform live in September, even if part of FM.
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I really like Time On Earth but Intriguer is just pleasant background music to me with no standout tracks like all the other albums. My only issue with Time On Earth is that Mark and Matt only appear on four tracks. I know that it started off as a Neil solo album with Nick guesting before Neil decided to reform the band. But I was disappointed that they didn't get Mark and Matt to add to or replace parts on all of the album. Instead their appearance feels token and an afterthought. I guess...
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I can't really think of TOE as a CH album because, well, it isn't. All bar four songs were recorded by Neil as a solo album, which was only badged as a CH record when he decided - post recording but pre-release - to reform the band. His choices were either to release the album but abandon it promo-wise, or call it a CH album and persuade the band to tour it. But a CH album it ain't.
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Re: Am I the only one who loves 2007-2010 Crowded House?
So tired of this, but I’ll repeat my counter-argument for the 30th time. The entire thing features two of the original three members, and more importantly, it SOUNDS like Crowded House through and through regardless of the branding. Would anyone claim Nobody Wants To *doesn’t* sound like classic CH, with “only” Neil and Nick? This is why Neil went that direction, because to paraphrase a quote from him at the time, “everyone was thinking it, that it sounded and felt like Crowded House.” Call...
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So you don't consider Mark Hart a proper CH member or a key ingredient of the CH sound from at least 93 onward? Yes with Neil and Nick TOE has two original members and I never disputed that. But as Mark rejoined the reunited band I was disappointed as a fan that he didn't get to play on the whole album or at least more than four tagged on tracks. I think he deserved better and the fans did too. The funny thing is tho that paradoxically TOE sounds like more of a band album than Intriguer. The...
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If the original intention had been to reform the band, Mark would have and should have been there from day one, certainly. But it worked out in a more complicated way than that. It happened how it happened and I’m sure nobody had anything against Mark. And don’t forget, the recording is only part of the TOE story, they toured extensively on that album with Mark and Matt In the band, so all things considered Mark was a major player in that part of the band’s career — not to mention literally...
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Thanks for the condescension. I'm familiar with the sad circumstances that led to Neil and Nick reuniting. I don't doubt that Neil respects and values Mark. I just think it would have been better to let him add more to the album. Just my opinion but I doubt I'm alone. I agree that Mark would never complain, he comes across as to nice of a guy. Everything they've done since? You can only be talking about touring and the one album since. Maybe deserve wasn't the right word but don't know why...
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Also the 2016 Sydney performance. I wasn’t offended. This has clearly deteriorated so I’ll just say, feel better dude.
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The 2016 shows were indeed awesome, at least the show they showed on tv and what I saw of the others on Youtube. But they never got a cd/dvd release. Never my intention to offend you. Just calling a spade a spade. Respect isn't a hard thing to have for others opinions. Sorry you find it difficult. I have no problem with you having a different opinion to me. Just you not respecting mine. Feel better? Bro I'm all good. It's gonna take more than a disagreement on a music forum to spoil my day.
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Personally, I don't feel that "sounds like" and "features x number of members" are good enough reasons. "Yesterday" featured only one Beatle and didn't sound ANYTHING like a Beatles song up to that point. And yet it IS a Beatles song because it was recorded by a member of that band with the intention of being issued as one of their songs. (Compared to, say, Beautiful Night which featured twice as many Beatles but was recorded by them in their capacity as solo artists and was never intended...
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It's Crowded House because it was issued by the band and the record company as Crowded House. It doesn't have to sound like CH or include all the members anymore than Yesterday or Eleanor Rigby has to sound like or include all the Beatles. It's the fact that it was originally issued as CH and subsequently promoted by the whole band world wide that makes it theirs. They issued it, they own.
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Okay. Let's back track. I clearly recall Neil saying in an interview at the time of the release of Try Whistling This that his record company - Parlophone - had asked him to keep using the CH name even though he'd split the band. Neil acknowledged that this would be the most commercially sound thing to do but - in acknowledgement of the contribution of the other band members and the special rapport the band had with its audience - he didn't feel he could do that. He was clearly acknowledging...
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I recall Neil saying at the time of TOE being released that things changed when Paul died and that he felt different about 'resurrecting' the Crowded House name. I personally couldn't care less under whose name TOE was released. It remains one of my favourite Neil albums and the album I am most likely to revisit.
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I agree its a good record, although I do think it's too long. Of course, we'd all remove different songs (and many, I suspect, would remove none). I also think CH had the makings of a great record in Intriguer but, for my money, made all the wrong decisions: picked the wrong versions of Saturday Sun and Isolation, and then included weaker tracks at the expense of some of the best songs from the sessions (The Intriguer, Turn it Around and Eyes Grow Heavy). Again, I could easily compile a...
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I would definitely remove She Called Up from TOE....cheapens the record....and then the video came out, and harmed the record even more. I do think it was Neil's way of purposely recording a Crowded House sounding song. I would like to know if it was the last one to include. One last time: replace it with Lost Island or the other B side song, and it would complete the album. Also, have People Are Like Suns piano solo version, and TOE could have been close to a classic Crowded House album.
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Isn't Lost Island already on TOE? I was surprised at how many in the 2007 audience knew the song She Called Up in Atlanta. I suppose that was a gathering place for Regional fans, and we'd all bought the album (or CD, or apple music download). So come back, already! We're Still Here!
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I say add "Stare Me Out", "Lost Island" and "So Dramatic" and make it a double album! The vinyl has both "Stare Me Out" and "Lost Island" included. It's a great set! I mean, I love "She Called Up". It was a shot of energy that the album needed to sound more like Crowded House. Saying it should be removed is akin to saying "Black & White Boy" or "Tall Trees" should be removed for their respective albums. And yet, without those songs, my 15 year old self might have never engaged with those...
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Is it just me or does She Called Up have a very Something So Strong vibe about it?
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My gateway drug to CH was the 2006 Farewell to the World release - I’d heard of them before, but hadn’t listened to them in a decade or so, and FTTW came out around my 18th birthday. So Time on Earth and Intriguer are the two records I’ve experienced in “real time” so to speak. And I love those albums, because that whole era was great. In additional to ancillary personal memories, they make me think of the first streamed in studio gig, following all the other pre tour gigs in ‘07, the great...
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That's what I thought too....trying too hard to get close to what has been done in the past. I wonder what Neil's honest opinion is of that song. I am only guessing but I think he does not look back on it too fondly. You don't hear about him play that one live anytime or anywhere. Someone should request him to play it on his site and see what his reaction is...
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You guys know what that song's about, right? My 10-yr old daughter has always wanted to ask Neil why he made the song so upbeat? The video was pretty funny and the curtains made a nice touch.
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I wish that CH was Neil's main project and those other projects his side projects. Apparently he mentioned at one of the last CH gigs that it would be a very long time before another album or tour. I hope so soon -- they aren't getting any younger.
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Time on Earth is a great Crowded House album and a great album full stop. The artificial boundaries around what is and isn't a Crowded House album perplex me. 2/3 original members and 2/3 available members recorded those songs. Intriguer is kinda meh because I get the feeling that Neil is guessing at what "we" want and trying to force it in too many songs. In reality, what I want from CH pt 2 is Neil's songwriting genius presented through the prism of the personalities we know and love.
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Intriguer era had a weird feeling of self sabotage running through it also - between Neil’s moustache, Twice If You’re Lucky being...less commercially exploited than it could have been with a different arrangement, etc.
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Interesting point. I think Neil went into TOE with a view to making a solo record which, in his later opinion, just happened to sound a bit like CH. However, when it came to actually being in CH and writing for them, I think he automatically rebelled against what he thought listeners expected of them. It sort of contradicts his assertion that he broke up the band in 1996 because his new batch of songs "didn't sound like CH songs". A very complex place, the mind...
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Here's a thought. Maybe Neil feels that trying to "catch lightening in a bottle" twice just isn't working. CH Mark I was amazing, but it was 3 or 4 youngish musicians that this was their LIFE and livelihood. Being well established and financially secure, CH Mark II just sort of seems like a hobby, and there's just too many other projects going on (for Neil, anyway).
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Paul H posted: Fair enough. Maybe a bit off topic but am I the only one who feels that Crowded House could have gone on in 1996 with Mark or someone else as the lead singer, a la Genesis? Probably.
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As great a singer and talent as Mark is, that wouldn't have worked. Hessie was gone so Nick would've been the only original member left. You can't have a CH without Neil. On a side note, I love See Ya Round but find it hard to consider it an Enz album. It has no original band members. And Split Enz without Tim is as wrong as CH without Neil.
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By that addage , Now We're getting Somewhere , Weather With You , and There Goes God aren't Crowded House songs. There are others too . Time On Earth features 2 of the origional 3 band members on every song , which is more than can be said for other albums in their catalogue. TOE had a confused begining in terms of identity, but so did the debut album and woodface by all accounts. In response to the intitial poster on this thread - Rest assured there are thousands who love Crowded House now...
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P.S. Nobody Wants to sounds TOTALLY like Crowded House ! I've always thought that it would fit perfectly on Woodface - very much in the vein of FAYF or FSIOD
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Yes! It’s got that marriage between a concise, hummable melody, and lyrics which are simple and economical but still say so much. It’s also similar to BBHS that way (and pretty much the same tempo actually). The arrangement and effects might be updated but it screams classic CH to me. It’s the songwriting “mode” that made me fall in love with CH and doesn’t seem to happen much with Neil in recent years (Terrorise Me is one recent example).
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I totally agree about the songwriting style . I actually think that sonically / production - wise its also reminiscent of woodface . Similar short delay on the guitar riff , plaintive fairly dry drum sound etc .
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And I'd agree. But you actually make my point: nobody thinks of Woodface as being a Finn Bros album because it contains a handful of their songs, and yet you're apparently quite happy to think of Time on Earth as a CH album when it only contains four songs recorded by the band. Woodface is a CH album because the vast majority of it was recorded by them with the intent of making their own album. How would you feel about the ownership of Woodface if - after CH had finished making it - Neil and...
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It's funny how we all hear the same thing differently, isn't it? I totally respect your view of it but I just don't share it: to me Nobody Wants To sounds like a solo Neil recording and nothing like CH. It has none of the swing they incorporated into so many songs. But then again, Fingers of Love and Together Alone sound nothing like CH either which harks back to my point about Neil's peculiar justification for splitting the band in the first place.
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A lot of thoughtful debate here, but nobody can convince me that a fan's opinion on the matter is more correct than Neil Finn's. If Neil says it's a Crowded House album, it is. Full stop. Who are any of us to say differently?
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That's the crux of the issue and the whole point. Whilst you could never have CH without Neil, Neil by himself or even Neil with Nick and some very talented session players don't equal CH. Everybody here loves and respects Neil and his music. Again, that's not the issue. Who are any of us to think differently? Ummmm. Fans, on a message board forum. Nobody said you had to agree👍.
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I don’t think I do make your point . The whole of TOE has Neil and Nick on it . Only Mark is missing to an extent , because Matt hadn’t been appointed when the bulk TOE was made . Dont get your woodface argument to be honest . Not sure the spilt in terms of musicians , but there’s a few pre Tim tracks and a few post Tim tracks . The decision to make it CH OR Finn Bros would have been equally valid , as was the decision to make TOE Crowded House . To my understanding , only TOLM , Together...
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I feel that Neil called it a Crowded House album as a way to pay tribute to and grieve for Paul.
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I feel that Neil called it a CH album because, having decided to reform the band, doing anything else would have made life very messy: what were his choices? 1) Ask the band to tour his SOLO album. Not likely. 2) Release the album with no tour and head straight back to the writing desk. A real shame for the material on TOE, really hard work for the songwriter and frustrating because it would delay actually working/touring with the band. I remain unimpressed by any argument that he decided to...
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Interesting debate. For me it highlighted some of the history of the origins of Neil’s recorded work vs. the personnel we got to see touring it because that’s a part of what we’re talking about where Time On Earth is concerned. The musicians who toured that album were Crowded House, that makes it a chapter in the Crowded House career for me regardless of exactly who recorded what on the album, the percentage of Crowded House members on any given song or the number of songs they performed on.