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Re: Fleetwood Mac (with Neil Finn) to Perform on The Ellen Show on September 5

Sugar Mouse ·
Completely agree. They can simply record their practice sessions and hire a producer/engineer to put the songs into album form. In a perfect world, they would record it online like Neil did for Out of Silence.
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Re: Fleetwood Mac (with Neil Finn) to Perform on The Ellen Show on September 5

Sugar Mouse ·
and amazing job on that photo ...
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Re: Fleetwood Mac (with Neil Finn) to Perform on The Ellen Show on September 5

slowpogo ·
I think people in general were a little hard on the band for technical things. Yeah, they weren’t quite together in the break after the first chorus (watch Neil pause completely and watch, as if thinking “I better stay out of this and not make it more messy”). The main vocal trio weren’t perfectly in tune and it wasn’t mixed well. But, I agree that for a first performance of a new lineup it’s pretty tight. I do think criticism is more warranted for the overall vibe. It did seem plodding at...
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Re: Crowded house 3.0 debuts on aussie / nz tv

Mica ·
If the individual video is blocked in your country, go to the complete one, they start after pretty much exactly one hour: https://youtu.be/18TVSKWYQ6w
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Re: Crowded house 3.0 debuts on aussie / nz tv

Camus ·
Excited to hear the new album after seeing these two performances. While Sherrod was a very talented drummer, I never liked the different feels he had compared to Hester. I also feel that Froom usually brings out the best in Finn too. These two performances are amongst the most authentic reproductions of the album arrangements I've ever heard.
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Re: Crowded house 3.0 debuts on aussie / nz tv

slowpogo ·
Froom does reproduce the original keyboard parts very accurately. But is that necessarily good, or what we want out of Crowded House live? One exception might be something like Into Temptation, where the live versions always felt like a too-simple version of the record. I’d love to hear Froom play that lush arrangement with the authentic Chamberlin sounds. But otherwise, I always appreciated how CH preserved the essence of the records live, but made edits and approximations, took departures,...
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Re: Crowded house 3.0 debuts on aussie / nz tv

Left Hand ·
I agree. I better add, in my opinion, Something So Strong wouldn't be Mark's best work and maybe he sometimes got the BBHS solo wrong. But I thought Mark enjoyed tinkering the keys in Hole in the River and I reckon the live version sounds better than the studio version. If and when Mitchell Froom does "cut loose" I hope he doesn't copy Mark's little alternatives!!
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Re: Where to start?

Paināporo ·
Feeding the Gods is one of my favorite albums of all time. But you have to prepared to rock out because it's a very energetic romp. After that, Say It Is So is my next favorite. Those two albums make a great one-two punch from the early aughts.
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Re: Where to start?

Thom Bullock ·
FTG is one of those “under different circumstances this would have been a big hit” albums, I think. And for all the great TF tracks on it, I still think Incognito is probably the highlight.
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Re: Where to start?

Byrds Talk to Me ·
Although I don't listen to TF albums anymore, the ones I played the most were Escapade, Tim Finn and Before & After. I found Say It Is So to be unlistenable.
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Re: Complete Singles Collection?

UK Neil ·
A tricky one . I started collecting the singles and had a list ( from somewhere) to check off from.I got them all save Better Be Home Soon which at that time was priced at £20.. far too much so I didn't bother. Most of the "singles" as you know were "doubles" with alternative "B" sides of live tracks and of course we have the special World Where You Live single which after 8 years or so shatters to small pieces without warning and Locked Out which becomes covered in some sort of plastic...
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Re: New SOLO Album

BRANDO BRANDT ·
I share the love for Intriguer (except for ‘Even If’ which I still don’t understand why on earth they would choose to write/record and release on an album...) and really wish Neil’s next move would see him going back home to CH. Personally what I crave the most is new music from Crowded House. A 3rd Finn Brothers record is a close second. A 4th solo album is third in my ranking ( I really would like to see him do more with Victoria Kelly - I feel like they’re on the verge of hitting the...
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Re: Say It Is So lyrics

_Michiel_ ·
20 years already, time flies... I remember being underwhelmed at time of release. "Before & After" was absolutely my favorite album, this was not what I expected. Two years later I gave the album a new spin. That was when I discovered the true spirit of the album. SIIS is absolutely a great album. My top 3 differs each week; but only in positions. The tittles are the same each time: B&A , SIIS and Tim Finn .
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Re: Interview with Stuart Ellison - Periscope studio engineer (part 2)

Lance LaSalle ·
It'd be interesting to know how much of the so called Still Life demos are recorded with Stuart Ellison and which were recorded earlier and which he then added parts to. There are versions of "Persuasion" and "Funny Way" on there and "Persuasion" in particular is quite different from the album; but frankly, it's terrible in comparison with the finished Mark Hart-produced song to my ears -- but Stuart doesn't seem to like the album version at all. I could not disagree with him more. Different...
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Re: Interview with Stuart Ellison - Periscope studio engineer (part 2)

mattl ·
Thanks so much for sharing this interview! I'm particularly fascinated with the comments about "In Love With it All" and "Strangeness and Charm," which always sounded like Woodface outtakes to my ears. So it's pretty interesting to me that Ellison seems to think those songs were part of what Crowded House was doing at the time (even if Nick and Paul weren't involved). Jaffaman, can you shed any light on that? Were those two Finn Brothers songs ever considered for Woodface? What's the scoop? ...
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Re: Mental Notes is 40

Keri ·
I'm revisiting this forum after many years away, fossicking through old threads. Nice to come across this one, I think Sweetman gave a terrible review of Intriguer when it was released but this is a genuine appreciation. Mental Notes was the first Split Enz album I came across, my brother had it and it can't have been long after it came out. With it's fantastic cover so apt for the music inside. I was really impressed that one of the band members had done that painting, years later I was...
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Re: "Anger Plays a Part" - the video

brownie ·
The song sounds nice, but I do not get the video. I will always give a Finn record a chance, but I don’t have high expectations for this one either. I preordered the digital download. Maybe it will surprise me after I’ve heard the complete album a few times through.
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Re: "Anger Plays a Part" - the video

brownie ·
Ok, I am willing to eat crow. Listening to the whole album puts everything in context and I quite like it after one complete play through. Even Ghosts is much more listenable in context. I am very pleasantly surprised!
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Re: New memeber!

SugarCoatedIceberg ·
Thank you all for the welcome I like the Lightning Seeds Dizzy Heights album a lot, it was nice to hear more of a band sound than the synths and drum machines on Jollification. It's interesting because I see Neil and Ian as opposite sides of the same coin, the Lightning Seeds stuff is in general pretty immediate and obviously 'hooky' whereas I find Neils work to be sonically deeper and not as immediate but longer term more gratifying if that makes sense! But they are both incredibly talented...
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Re: There's a show with the Finns at Largo, LA on Sept 27

michelleb ·
I'm on the Largo mailing list but didn't get a notification. Actually heard about it from NeilFinn.com mailing list, sent 12:01 pm-Largo time as a msg from Liam with the p.s. "From Team NF: Sorry about the late notice." I saw the email about an hour after it was sent, and it was sold out. :-(
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Paināporo ·
First, yes, Jeremy has done some incredible work and he deserves a lot of praise for what looks like a stunning collection. Thank you Jeremy! It's really hard to know what you're missing on a collection like this. We know Cemetery in the Rain was demoed but I've never heard anyone speak particularly highly of it, so I guess that's why it was left off. I am surprised there is no demo of "Grabbing by the Handfuls" or the Paul led track from 1985 that includes the lyric "Pulled up heaving from...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Steve Shealy ·
At the risk of sounding ungrateful (I'm not) or contrarian, "not missing much" is in the ear of the beholder. I'm beyond thrilled with what we ARE getting, but am pretty sad that Cemetery in the Rain didn't show up. I don't know why I got a bit obsessed with that one a while back, but it piqued my imagination. Speaking for myself, I'd MUCH rather have even a "sub-par" track that is totally new to me than a demo/live/alternate version of a well-known one. Even Neil's throwaways are so much...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

The Ligature ·
There are a few added details on the UK iTunes track listings: The five Intriguer bonus disc live tracks are listed as recorded at Leigh Sawmill Cafe in New Zealand - 22nd February 2008, so indeed the pre-Intriguer version which is among the Kitchen Sink II tracks at neilfinn.com Similarly, the live "When You Come" on the Temple bonus disc is from the Ventura Theatre on the Woodface tour with Tim in the band. So much to digest in these bonus disc track listings but for me these curiosities...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Jaffaman ·
The Woodface Tour continued into 1992. Many of the songs for Together Alone were written in 1991/2 after Woodface had been released. Recording for Together Alone began in late '92. "Loose Tongue"... check out page 330 of Chris Bourke's "Something So Strong". Thanks, The Ligature. You're right... I've been dying to share all this with everyone. Should probably hold back a bit more. Giving everything away before you get to read the liner notes and interviews in the books! And yes, this is the...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Whysus ·
This is fantastic stuff! Im thrilled how this project has finally turned out - it has certainly surpassed my expectations. I can't wait for Nov. Thanks so much for all the hard work put into this Jaffaman and being so responsive to all the questions. It is amazing how the Forum has suddenly sprung to life again! I think the content for the bonus discs is bang on and it has been great to get an understanding of why some things that we may have expected aren't there (I'm happy for Franks Dark...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

stuartjb ·
Totally agree Steve - really hope they can keep the momentum up with a new album tour in the not to distant future ... Neil said on 60 minutes that "they love playing together - they just aren't doing it too much at the moment.." - he used the car parked up in the garage analargy again. That's given me enough encouragement to suggest there's nothing final about this gig or music issue. Jeremy , Thanks for all your hard work on this project (thanks to Neil and the band also).. This has been a...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

mattl ·
Hello all--- First, thanks Jaffaman for your years of work on the reissue project. I admit it...I lost hope years ago. But you were persistent, and that all-too-rare trait has resulted in a huge blessing for the fans. We all know that no one forced you all to release this "new" music, and the fact that you've all spent so much time, energy, and money making it happen shows how much you and the band care about the fans. Thoughts...where to begin...? [1] So...I know this is a discussion about...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Jaffaman ·
There are two tracks on the Intriguer bonus disc that began life in those post- Intriguer sessions. They're the only two tracks in the entire collection I haven't heard yet because they were still being worked on in LA with Nick Launay when we finalised the tracklist. "Two Minutes of Silence" and "Nonsense Of Course".
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

stuartjb ·
Wow, these might be the most exciting releases of all ! I take it that's why Neil and Nick were really in LA ?
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Whysus ·
I concur! Thanks for the info Jaffaman - that is great news. I was hoping that there would be something in there that was recorded post Intriguer, and finished off recently.
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Jaffaman ·
Hi mattl. It's been a while! Thanks for your interest over the years. 1. Haven't heard the CD masters. 2. Byrdhouse didn't seem to be a problem. 3. Left Hand - three totally different versions. 4. I like the chorus of Most Unwanted. There's no way we could include the TV version (rights, sound quality, musical quality, etc) but I suggested the live version to Neil and he turned it down. When it's your music, your songs, your reputation, your story, you have the right to decide how you're...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Patjoller ·
Nick Launay..... is he, by any chance, working on the Oils boxset (it's the same story as the CH boxset, mentioned but unreleased for a long time...)?? I understand why Neil didn't want to release the most unwanted from the manchester show, it was quite messy I think, with an abrupt ending... Neil is even apologising to the crowd. The MTV version looks more polished and has a proper ending, but I was quite sure about the rights, quite hard to release it.
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

koala_sprint ·
That's the question I want to know. I've been waiting on the Oils boxset almost as long as the CH one. I believe they shelved it in preparation for the Oils reunion in 2017.
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Paul H ·
Yep. It's an odd listen after years of having the CD.
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

slowpogo ·
Glad we get to hear something from those sessions, but it also suggests they've definitely abandoned the notion of a new album any time soon. I guess we already knew that but I was holding out some hope based on those sessions. Maybe the encore shows will make them reconsider? One can hope.
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Paul H ·
Didn't know that. Thanks for the info, David. Presumably, that 2006 album was put on hold after Hessie passed but morphed into Time on Earth eventually. Odd that Peter should put it on the Intriguer Outtakes CDR.
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Re: There's a show with the Finns at Largo, LA on Sept 27

daryln ·
My favorite bit of banter on Sunday was when Neil asked the audience, "Is anybody recording this?" After an immediate and collective response of "No!", he replied, "You ****ing better not be!"
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Re: UK and EU orders for new box set

Possessed7 ·
I certainly hope £25 isn't the normal price in-store. Amazon often drop prices at the last minute (Conor Oberst's album has dropped to £9.99 after being almost £16 since it was listed). They're the equivalent of £13 each on Amazon Canada. I expect the UK price to fall to something similar, certainly cheaper than the £19 per double CD charged by Universal.
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

harrytrousers ·
You could call it the After-Afterglow.
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Re: Original album remastering details

Holty/Finfan ·
Hi, Paul and thanks! Nice to be back. Not sure if my name is as catchy as could be. Thanks for the information. I'm sure I'll be comparing and contrasting, great that the original source was to tape and it will be good to hear Jaffaman's comments. I've been following on and off from my mobile over the years and it's great to see all of you are still here and just as passionate. It's of great interest to see, roll on Friday - assuming that Universal deliver the goodies on the day of course,...
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Re: 2016 Album Reissues: What's Missing?

Hawk57 ·
That's good to hear, in a way, as I felt let down when I heard Tail after reading about it on here. Also, what is the story behind Frank's Dark Past? I've seen a few people ask but no one has answered... very mysterious
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Re: A few spares (act on it now)

gryphon ·
The clubs grabbed the bulk, if any Forum regulars are after 24/27 tickets , here is the link: http://www.ticketmaster.com.au/promo/0l5cw1
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Re: Largo Show Alert!

KermitDfrog ·
I should have worded that better, I do remember Terrorise Me and Second Nature. They did those after mentioning that they hadn't done any of the songs from the album and needed to do some. Thanks for the set list!
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Re: Go your own way

silent stream ·
Here’s another snippet - neil going after a lindsay song hard and doing well ... comments on the vid are split - the lindsay fans split too ... big song, big concert moment, crowd seemed to like it ... the young fells seems to be doing awright https://youtu.be/0GRG_yrUN3c
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Re: Go your own way

Sugar Mouse ·
There was a sizeable amount of feedback after the Ellen Show and iHeart performance about how Neil didn't bring the intensity and energy of Lindsey. Of course, they are two different people with different styles but I suspect that management asked Neil to bring up the intensity a bit.
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Re: Mick Fleetwood Gets Choked Up Talking About "Don't Dream It's Over" (October 6, 2018)

TryWhistlingThis ·
If I am being honest, without sounding entitled or "expert" over the matter, but after seeing Setlist.com's coverage of the tour, I get the impression that Neil is going to be performing 'Don't Dream It's Over' and 'I Got You" for the entire tour. If Neil is happy with this, fine - truly. But the Neil I have come to know avoided fixed set lists or obvious staple songs (unless it's a reunion, farewell gig or something of that nature). I just don't see how doing this for the next 6 months is...
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Re: Pablo Vasquez supporting William Shatner on Australia/NZ tour

Freofan ·
The Issac Theatre Royal is a stunning venue. It was completely restored after the earthquakes. The foyer itself is just beautiful.
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Re: They're coming to my town

Get Real ·
I like Neil Fenn. Loved New Wave Spilt Enz and Crowded House’s “Don’t Dream it’s Over” got me through the deaths of two loved ones of mine years after it was a hit. But most true Fleetwood Mac Fans aren’t thinking about Neil and Tom Pettys guitarist. They’re thinking about how ****ty the band treated Lindsey Buckingham. About how awful they behaved towards one of their long running creative geniuses who was extremely loyal to John McGiebwhen John suffered from liver cancer and kept John from...
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Re: They're coming to my town

Sugar Mouse ·
Well that's one way to look at events from the Lindsey point of view. Of course, there's always two sides to a story. The band side has been written about at length in terms of how Lindsey treated Stevie and the other band members over the years. Lindsey may have mellowed with age but his past behavior, if close to what's been documented, could easily justify firing him. Moreover, Fleetwood Mac has a long history of lead figures before Lindsey. In fact, Fleetwood Mac has more studio albums...
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Re: They're coming to my town

Get Real ·
Stevie Nicks has denied being abused by Lindsey Buckingham and said then he only went after her after some ridiculous behavior in the 1980s where she attacked him first. So I agree, there are two sides to the story. Both are extremely eccentric personalities and presences - the whole group s for a mainstream elite classic rock band. Since Buckingham Nicks joined, its essentially been the 5 key players over the past 40 years. When Buckingham left on his own in accord in the late 80s, he was...
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