Tagged With "Before and After"

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Re: CH in unexpected places

Kittybear ·
Saturday Sun on BBC Radio 2 - 27th Feb 2013 (today) on the very very early morning show normally hosted by Alex Lester but today Alex Jones from the One Show was sitting in. Now I know that SS was a single, but it was C listed by the BBC and after a few nominal plays hasn't been heard since. This play came as a result of a request slot called Listener's Library, so thanks Aaron Williams in Cwmbran, I don't know if you are a Frenz or a forum user at all but you are certainly a fan because...
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Re: What are you listening to right now?

N.F.Addict ·
Far out! Haven't posted in this thread for ages. Some topics never really die, do they? Just as of late, I've been re-discovering an old fave of mine from my teenage years. I've been listening to a lot of Westlife again. Strangely enough, I lost interest in them musically shortly after Unbreakable - Greatest Hits was released back in late 2002-early 2003, so I didn't really bother with the latter - breakup albums... until now. Still loving the early stuff though.
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Re: CH in unexpected places

N.F.Addict ·
Well, this was on the radio in part... but it was the car radio on a TV program. I was watching the latest episode of Top Gear UK on BBC Knowledge express from the UK tonight. Featured in the show was Jeremy Clarkson and James May having one of their trademark races - car vs whatever. Only this race had something to do with the North Island of New Zealand. Clarkson, feeling a bit bored with the ins and outs of the car he was using, decided mid-trip to see what was going on with the local NZ...
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Re: CH in unexpected places

Steve Shealy ·
Originally Posted by N.F.Addict: Well, this was on the radio in part... but it was the car radio on a TV program. I was watching the latest episode of Top Gear UK on BBC Knowledge express from the UK tonight. Featured in the show was Jeremy Clarkson and James May having one of their trademark races - car vs whatever. Only this race had something to do with the North Island of New Zealand. Clarkson, feeling a bit bored with the ins and outs of the car he was using, decided mid-trip to see...
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Re: CH in unexpected places

Welsh Dan ·
But surely, Kittybear, this was used to promote TA? It was a single, after all?
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Re: I think NOT

Guest ·
Loomis, it wasn't working for me, and I know from the slow loss of people and interest at thefrenzy that in many ways, it wasn't working for other people either. One of the problems was "spam" type posts for porn sites, MLM schemes, and other things. If you never saw those, I must have deleted them before you did, but there were there. I think registering will stop most people from posting that. I realise this may not be the best setup for most people, but I think after time it will be...
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Re: Tim or Finn brothers boots?

Niwhai ·
I know of the existence of a recording of Finn Bros. live at the Fillmore, San Francisco, 1996. There's also a recording of Tim Finn live at the Borderline, London (Before & After era) available somewhere out there in cyberspace. I think some British online record shop sells it at a shockingly steep price. Other than that, there was a live webcast of a Tim Finn concert from Boston Radio a couple of days ago. Happy hunting! ------------------ Cheers, Christina [This message has been...
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Re: CH DVD's

Paul H ·
CH DVDs... yum yum. A very obvious choice after Recurring Dream would be Farewell To The World (the whole concert though, including Throw Your Arms and Weather), plus additional soundcheck, interview and rehearsal footage. Another possibility is the Fleadh gig. Any others?
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Re: Always Never Now

lpabmeme ·
Tim had good reviews for Tim Finn and Before & After from Q magazine, a promiment UK music magazine. Before & After is his only solo chart LP in the UK, Persuasion and Hit The Ground Running charted as singles too. I think generally, he is known as the brother of Neil through Crowded House's success from Woodface (ironically), but has been forgotten since his departure from Crowded House. Indeed Neil is probably better known as a member of Split Enz rather than Tim, as their two hit...
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Re: Neil's new album

Guest ·
Neil recently indicated that it would most likely come out after the New Year. He had previously been hoping for a September release, but it looks like that has been changed. Debbie, Frenz.com webmistress http://www.frenz.com
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Re: New Tim Interview at NoBorderlines.com

Guest ·
Great job! A really enjoyable read, and it looks like you caught him in a good mood. I liked the quiz too. How many of those questions came from fans, or were you not the person asking fans what to ask Tim? You may want to tell the NB people to capitalise "Before And After" since that's the name of a Tim album and not just two adjectives in the sentence "Mitchell produced the Tim Finn record and before and after." Debbie, Frenz.com webmistress http://www.frenz.com
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Re: Tongue in the Mail

DeleteMe ·
Hi, I know your problem too well! I had many problems to get into the list. But I wrote an email to Marck or whoever leads the list and told him of my problem. After that it was no longer a problem. He�s a very nice guy and very helpful! Silke
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Re: did you see the new puppy?

Jeremy Loder ·
Very cute. Is that Neil's new family dog? I heard Neil say recently when he was doing an AFTERGLOW interview that he had only had Lester about a few months before he was hit by a car. So I will assume that seeing as Tim and Neil did their home demo of LESTER in 1988(straight after it happened) that Lester is 12 human years old. Is the puppy Lester's son or daughter or did Neil just wan't a third dog.
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Re: did you see the new puppy?

Jeremy Loder ·
Very cute. Is that Neil's new family dog? I heard Neil say recently when he was doing an AFTERGLOW interview that he had only had Lester about a few months before he was hit by a car. So I will assume that seeing as Tim and Neil did their home demo of LESTER in 1988(straight after it happened) that Lester is 12 human years old. Is the puppy Lester's son or daughter or did Neil just buy another Dalmation because he wanted a third dog.
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Re: Always Never Now

katiepops ·
In my opinion, ever so humble as it may be, Tim is by far the bigger talent. He has a better voice than Neil, writes better songs than Neil, and is about a million squillion times better looking than Neil. Before and After is a classic album, I love it to bits and play it all the time. Persuasion has to be one of the best songs ever. Look at Crowded House ... Woodface was arguably the best album they produced, most of the songs co-written by Tim. Isn't it funny that they weren't successful...
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Re: Always Never Now

Wenbird ·
Really? What labels were they released on? I'm just wondering since I got Big Canoe not too long after it came out, about '87 and it's on Virgin, who I didn't think released in the States on their own. So now I'm wondering if it IS an American copy I have or an import. I never did find Escapade on vinyl but I did find it on CD and I know that one's an import since it's a Mushroom release. My Big Canoe CD is also clearly an import, this time from Germany but the record isn't really marked as...
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Re: Best And Worst Enz Albums

Jeremy Loder ·
OK, heres my top three. 1. TRUE COLOURS - It may not have been their creative peak, but every single song on it is just so damn catchy. How can you not fall in love with this album. It's a classic. 2. TIME AND TIDE - A beautiful album with dark, raw, painful emotions. An album about fighting your inner demons, going to hell and back, and winning. Also, Noel, Tim, Eddie, Nigel and Neil have all said that this is their favourite album out of all the albums Split Enz made. If perhaps not a...
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Re: Digital Transer

kolin hibbert ·
I'm not a user of Napster or other MP3 sites mostly out of principal. If something I want is commercially available, I'll buy it. It doesn't matter to me if I have to pay $100 cdn for each of the Enz box sets (what I paid for them in 1993, now my store sells them for under $80 retail). I do have a point where I'll boot something if it's not available anymore. For example, Together Alone (believe it or not) is not available in North America- we can't even get it through any of the Aus...
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Re: CH Olympics Performance Request

kolin hibbert ·
I'm glad to hear they turned down that request. It would have been good if they had done the same on Solid Gold, way back in '86. It made me sad watching them stand there as a 3-piece with all the board stuff going, and nothing plugged in. I couldn't listen to DDIO for a year after that. ------------------ Kol
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Re: Fanclub CDs

radiobug ·
I agree. It would be fantastic if the fan club could repress the cds with a simple, one color insert, or something completely different to distinguish them from the originals. After all, these cds were made available for the fans, the people who love the music, not for people to use as an investment. I have been a Crowded House/Enz fan for years, and just joined the fan club a few weeks ago. I could kick myself for not joining way back in '87 when I first discovered CH. I never wrote for the...
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Re: anything live

Tegan ·
If you're after live CH, then the Recurring Dream CD was released as a double, with a the bonus disc being about 15 (???) live tracks..... Not being from Sydney, I've got absolutely NO idea where you could get it, but 2nd hand music stores would probably be your best bet... Good Luck!!!!
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Re: Tim's best collaboration.

GJamesW ·
OK I'll bite, my favorite is one he wrote with his brother and it is on Before and After. "In love with it All". Great melody, intriguing lyrics, and a real good harmony lead vocal. I don't know if he does both parts or if Neil helped but great song, one of my favorites.
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Re: Favourite/best solo album

GJamesW ·
This is really hard and I have asked myself the question a few times before. "Escapade" is great, the style was more dance oriented than the Enz stuff and it took me by surprise, I'm not really a dancer. But I have to Say the songwriting and production are top drawer. Aside from a few songs Big Canoe never really grabbed me. I love "Tim Finn" and pushed to the wall I would probably pick this one, Young Mountain, Cresendo great stuff. "Before and After" has some great songs including one of...
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Re: Favourite/best solo album

Jeremy Loder ·
For me it would have to be a close tie between TIM FINN and SAY IT IS SO at the moment. From Tim's five solo albums so far, these two have easily got the best sense of flow. ESCAPADE in all fairness has great production values, some classic songs and a good flow too, but the album is way too keyboard driven. BIG CANOE has the songs, but the production on alot of that albums songs has not stood the test of time particurlarly well. BEFORE AND AFTER is a great album and all of the songs are...
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Re: Melbourne Pic

Mel ·
I looked at that pic the other day but I didn't notice the armpit thing until after people mentioned it, hehe. [This message has been edited by Mel (edited 01 October 2000).]
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Re: Melbourne Pic

Finnbo ·
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mel: [B]I looked at that pic the other day but I didn't notice the armpit thing until after people mentioned it, hehe. --no neither did I! I guess we must have been looking somewhere else! Jackie
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Re: CH Olympics Performance Request

dingo ·
Bloody Hell! I have just sat through 4 + hours of the closing ceremonies to see Crowded House. It was mentioned that they were to be performing on some news program earlier in the week - so like a twit I sat and waited and waited and waited....... I thought to myself yesterday that I should come on line to check, oh well. I am glad they didn't perform after reading your posts but MAN those are 4 hours of my life I am not getting back! I think I'll console myself and listen to some TOLM.
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Re: CH Olympics Performance Request

Thea Kare ·
I only sat thru 3.5 hrs of Olympic closing ceremony torture, on the off-chance that CH was performing after all (but also because I'm a big Midnight Oil too)... then saw my TV Guide said the broadcast was about 5 HOURS LONG... said the hell with it... put it on tape. Love that fast-forward button! ------------------ Fall in love with a redhead at least once.
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Re: Always Never Now

PeterF ·
Big Canoe was released on Virgin in the US in 1988, but two years after it was released everywhere else. If Wenbird only has Escapade on CD then she hasn't had the pleasure of hearing "Below the Belt." If you have Escapade on vinyl only (I have it on vinyl, cassette - remember those? - and the import CD) then you might not have heard "Grand Adventure" which was the Australian alternate track. What always throws me off is the playlist is different - after listening to the US version for...
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Re: Melbourne Pic

kolin hibbert ·
Speaking as a musician, it's $%^*^%&#$ near impossible NOT to sweat onstage, and depending on your proximity to lights, movement, nerves, room temp, etc, you can sweat like a pig, or in my case, two. It's kind of ironic that it's ok to be dripping from your forehead after a gig but you can't show it anywhere else. ------------------ Kol
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Re: What Is The Best Song the Finn's Have Written Together?

Paul H ·
Fave Finn song...? Crumbs. Suffer Never takes some beating. Only Talking Sense, In Love With It All, Prodigal Son, How Will You Go, As Sure As I Am (but I'm not so sure if that was Neil solo!!!). Worst... Mood Swinging Man and just about all the songs on Finn after Niwhai. Oh yeah, and All I Ask is a bit drippy.
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Re: Getting a Neil gig in Edmonton?

kolin hibbert ·
Neil skipped Alberta altogether for the purpose of taping his Sessions on 54th. So the rest of the world got to see him, but I still haven't caught that show yet, and apparently the buggers at PBS pull the show after it airs twice, which Neil's show has, I've been told. But now I'm hearing rumours of a DVD and video of the show coming soon to a store near you and me. Well, probably closer to me, since I work at one. Hopefully, the gods will smile upon Edmonton and he'll be a feature at the...
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Re: Funniest live moment?

ALadIn Sane ·
The funniest live moment I've heard was when Paul stuffs up Sister Madly The dialogue goes as such Nick:That was really bad Neil:I'm sorry Paul... that was really uncharecteristic Paul:Fair enough, 10 years of being really good than one mistake. No no don't clap. Fair enough. It's tough up here. You've got to take the good with the bad. Neil:Rough with the smooth. Paul:Anyway... Neil:The clean with the dirty Paul:But... anyway... in about five minutes time, I won't even remember this. I...
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Re: New album out on 6th November in N.Z.

Jeremy Loder ·
It is out through Sony music, perhaps in conjunction with Periscope. I don't know yet when it will be aviliable overseas or who will be the distributer, but it is definitely going to be released world wide soon after it comes out here.
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Re: Funniest live moment?

Dorthonion ·
Truly hilarious moments: Winterthur 1991 - the stage is right next to the bar, therefore the guys help themselves to some drinks. Nick compares the name of brewery Grolsch with the sound you make when you drink the beer. He goes on about his camping trips with Neil which leaves them yodeling "The Happy Wanderer". I only heard about this: after being tempted by Neil all evening, Paul actually doing the full monty during the encores somewhere in the US, giving Peter Green in the audience and...
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Re: Is Steel City any good?

Leibiana ·
Jeremy, I would have been very happy to do that, but I did a little research and I'm now pretty sure they're not talking about the same Steel City. I didn't think it looked particularly musical OR live on the ad, but how common can THAT title be, right? This is the 'Steel City' they are referring to: 'This is the story of the closing of BHP'S Newcastle steelworks, after 84 years of making steel, the end of an era and the challenge of the new world. It is also a saga of industrial Australia...
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Re: Is Steel City any good?

Leibiana ·
I think it's very likely that the programme was a doco/dramatization which 'borrowed' its title from 'elsewhere' (maybe the whole idea came from Dein Perry's SC). I looked up the full preview on the ABC website and absolutely NO mention whatsoever was made about anything musical. It had an hour timeslot and was screened last night (I totally forgot to check it out after all that). Sorry to disappoint, Jeremy. I promise I'll be more thorough in my preliminary investigations next time I'm...
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Re: Tim's best collaboration.

Jeremy Loder ·
After hearing it, I would definitely have to rate the Finn - Runga - Dobbyn tour and CD one of Tim's best collaborations. I know that it's only a live album with the three of them having a lot of fun, but those who have seen one of their concerts and/or bought the CD will testify to how well it worked. I really hope that Tim, Bic and Dave consider doing a studio album together and maybe even another tour. I can't be the only one who would love to see this happen.
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Re: Great Enz Video Moments

OneWhoDreams ·
I love the "Message To My Girl" video also. I especially like the symbolism in the part where Neil walks in one direction and Tim (and another band member) pass by him in the opposite direction. It's like a harbinger of the fact that they would soon go their separate ways musically. It may have a personal resonance as well because I think that song came out just after Neil got married. This has got me thinking. Could any of the fans tell me what's on the picture that Tim is carrying when he...
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Re: Tim The Family Man

ninevah ·
Actually, Tim's current marriage is his third one. He was married to Liz Malam (an exotic dancer) when Split Enz was over in the UK, then was married to Greta Scaachi after they made The Coca Cola Kid, and thus Marie is his third wife. It's probably that he's had bad luck with love, etc. Read Stranger Than Fiction (Mike Chunn) and Something So Strong (Chris Burke)...they'll give you some more insight on the first 2 marriages...
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Re: Split Enz Millenium Video

Jeremy Loder ·
Hi Jen. Could you please tell me when Peter Green plans to start answering his email again. I have just recently joined the "Frenz of the enz" club and wish to order nine of those fan club CD's. Peter said that I (and my order) would be looked after, but I need to know answers to certain questions I emailed him,before I can send him the order forms and cheque. If you could inform me, when he is going to be able to reply to emails, that would be a big help. Cheers, Jeremy. [This message has...
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Re: The worst songs Neil Finn has ever written!

DeleteMe ·
Now don�t throw stuff on me but... ...I confess, I don�t like "I got you" after translating it to german, hehe. It�s a bit like a childs song, it�s cute somehow, but not goor for somebody who gave us songs like "Into temptation" and all the other ones. I love simple and pure music, but "I got you" is one step over the limit - it�s too simple... Strange that it was such a hit in Australia... OK, it�s catchy... but hey, some tunes of modern dance music are catchy too, and nevertheless they�re...
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Re: Tim's best live album.

Raymond ·
I never heard the Tim Finn, Bic Runga and Dave Dobynn album so I can only comment on the first three albums. I always liked Anniversary a lot, until someone told me to listen to the public. The public is really annoying on Anniversary. They yell at the wrong moments, I even get the idea that the "public" tape is partialy repeated. That spoiled a lot of my fun on Anniversary. But I really like Best Friend . The borderline concert is really great. The version of "Protected" is much better than...
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Re: Dave Dobbyn plays your requests...

Plug ·
JP, No Hamilton show for Dobbo! Thats most disappointing. Not that it's a problem, as my NZ music mate and I intend to see at least two shows, and we much prefer to travel before them (Saw FRD in Taupo, not Ham - makes it so much more magical), but one out of town and one locally would have been nice. Perhaps he could come rock the Hillcrest Tavern out. I'm also after a good transcription of the Just Add Water lyrics, you got one on hand? Cheers...
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Re: Dave Dobbyn plays your requests...

Jon-Paul Hansen ·
Hiya, >>as my NZ music mate and I intend to see at least two shows, and we much prefer to travel before them<< Make sure you enter your requests into the board at http://www.davedobbyn.co.nz/request.html >> I'm also after a good transcription of the Just Add Water lyrics, you got one on hand?<< You could always get them from the Hopetown album booklet And I'm adding a lyricography (?) to www.davedobbyn.co.nz this week. Ahh, what the heck... Just add water it's a...
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Re: Dave Dobbyn plays your requests...

Plug ·
Buy a CD? There's a novel idea for with those with some money.. I'll keep my eye on that after Christmas. (I've asked Santa for the FRD CD. Didn't think I should push my luck.) Cheers for the lyrics though. And no great loss about the Hamilton gig - reading closer there's one 20 min down the road in Raglan. Got tickets for my two gigs of choice already A question for you, regarding your transition from webmaster of The Belltower to that of Sony Music Online - I wondered if their was any...
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Re: The worst songs Neil Finn has ever written!

OneWhoDreams ·
How can anyone not like "Something So Strong?" Can't a song be exuberant and revel in its "popness" without being criticized for being too slick? And I can still sing along to "I Got You" after all these years. I don't think it's as simple as it seems, not with that undertone of paranoia verging on "stalking." ("Where do you go? I get no answer...") I don't think "Kill Eye" is that bad because it fits in with the darkened, mysterious aura of "Temple of Low Men." What I can't make sense of is...
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Re: Feedback on Nilfun

awamutu ·
my first, initial impression of nilfun was that it was pretentious but after i took the time to play with it, i found it quite fun. i don't have a super computer either, mine's hacking at me as i type this. i'm not at all familiar with laptops...maybe a suggestion could be sent to neil and his computer people that choices be given upon going in on how to view the site, depending on one's computer: fancy? simple? and click on one of those. remind them not to use chices titled "wrestle" or...
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Re: Best & Worst Tracks

OneWhoDreams ·
Favorite Tracks: CROWDED HOUSE Don't Dream It's Over World Where You Live Now We're Getting Somewhere TEMPLE OF LOW MEN - FAVORITE ALBUM, BRILLIANT Into Temptation Never Be The Same When You Come WOODFACE - Their worst album (sorry); a big letdown after the first two. Most of the songwriting is mediocre, but here are the three that redeem themselves: Fall at Your Feet Four Seasons in One Day Chocolate Cake TOGETHER ALONE Kare Kare Nails in My Feet Black and White Boy RECURRING DREAM - Being...
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Re: The worst songs Neil Finn has ever written!

Bob Memery ·
The wonderfulness of Sinner for me, albeit that I agree it initially seems tuneless. I was really put off by all the disparate elements, the keyboards loops, the late drum intro, the slow rhythm at first, and I really didn't get it. But having the tape in the car for three weeks after TWT's release, the song stuck out as the best arrangement on TWT. All the parts really work together, and the near crack in Neil's voice really moves me. The icing on the cake is the lyrics, OK this is covering...
 
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