Reply to "Review Thread - The Conversation"

I agree with many of the points Camus makes, especially about the Judd/Finn thing. Two grown men need to either reconcile or get over it and your right it does lack dignity.

I think there is a conversation on this album and I must admit it exceeded my expectations. Its not only the strength of the songs but the quality of the musicians and their connection. I can understand that some people will be disappointed because this album is very organic and naked which is not everyone's cup of tea.

The Finns I think find themselves in a weird space as they age. They have a huge back catalogue of songs, most of which are highly admired/loved and which has built them a huge following/audience.

To meet the expectations of many they need to keep producing the 'crowded house sound' in Neils case and poppy but slightly off centre songs in Tims case. This I think leads to problems for both. Tim clearly made a desision to produce IK in a conventional way. Perhaps he thought it would lead to greater commercial success - I don;t know. For me, he is at his best when he goes alternative as he did with SIIS and especially FTG (and the original Split Enz). I think The Conversation is a return to that agenda. It is unlikely to win him any new fans.

With Time on Earth Neil I think attempted to reconnect with the original crowded house sound. Many people loved this but I found it lacked excitement. I think he can write songs like Pour Le Monde in his sleep. What I did like was Transit Lounge and Your the One because they were different. How can he win?

It is also worth remembering all the trouble they had with EIH. I think that sums up the whole problem - to be different or deliver close to expectations. With that album they chose the latter but with FINN a decade earlier they chose the former.

I don;t envy them their choices but they are both highly recognized and respected artists and both are wealthy. So for mine they would be better to take more risks. Their legacy is safe and already established - they can choose to add to it or imitate it in my view.
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