What is Your Favorite Line From Neil's New Album "Out of Silence"?

What is Your Favorite Line From Neil's New Album "Out of Silence"?
 
My current favorite is one from the song "Chamelion Days" which is a lyric that could be discussed for hours ...
 
"Anyone can tell you that it's out of your hands.
God is rolling numbers while we're making our plans."
 
from "Chamelion Days" by Neil Finn
 
 
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That's a good line and reminds me of Einstein's "God doesn't play with dice".

I can't think of a favourite line yet as I'm not too familiar with the songs but I noticed a couple of recurring "Neil" themes i.e things happening inside walls & things/places burning. Also anyone noticed quite a few London references?

I've now listened to the new album about ten times and I love it more and more with each listen.

Thank you Neil! Thank you for continuing to share your musical visions with us.

I'm not sure if Neil intended the new album to be a musical but it feels like it to me. A glorious story with personal and political textures that radiate warmth and emotional power.

The songs fit so well together feeing like they all arouse simultaneously as one wonderful song cycle that seems meant for Broadway.

I love this album and am so grateful that it appeared in the world this month with so much turmoil going on across the globe.

As far as lyrics go, there are two that particularly hit me in the gut sending chills down my spine each time they appear. In fact, I get chills just reading these lines.

They are:

"Every age is a different color.
Deeper for the memory of the sun."

"Anyone can tell you
It's out of our hands.
God is rolling numbers
While I'm making a plan."

I agree with you about those two sets of lyrics.  They really are very striking, and the ones that resonate most with me right now.

But I think I need to take a break from this album now for at least a week.  I'll revisit it in a while and see what I think of it after the break, but right now it seems like the Neil album I burned out on the quickest.

 

"Anyone can tell you
It's out of our hands.
God is rolling numbers
While I'm making a plan."

I'm surprised so many are so enamored with this lyric.  Isn't this a pretty cliche sentiment that's been stated in various forms (often more artfully) many times before?  It goes back to the famous John Lennon quote: "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans."  It's just nothing new or interesting to me. It's actually one of my least favorite lyrics on the album.

Whereas "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope / Beauty has a way of seeming unconcerned" does strike me as something interesting. Again, it's not a new sentiment (what is, really?) but he finds a way of expressing it that is evocative, poetic and uniquely Neil Finn. The other lyric could have been written by anyone.

slowpogo posted:
 

"Anyone can tell you
It's out of our hands.
God is rolling numbers
While I'm making a plan."

I'm surprised so many are so enamored with this lyric.  Isn't this a pretty cliche sentiment that's been stated in various forms (often more artfully) many times before?  It goes back to the famous John Lennon quote: "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans."  It's just nothing new or interesting to me. It's actually one of my least favorite lyrics on the album.

Whereas "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope / Beauty has a way of seeming unconcerned" does strike me as something interesting. Again, it's not a new sentiment (what is, really?) but he finds a way of expressing it that is evocative, poetic and uniquely Neil Finn. The other lyric could have been written by anyone.

I can see how you're reminded of the John Lennon lyric, but a different way of expressing a similar thought is not necessarily cliché.  I like Neil's take on it.

I don't understand "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope".  It just sounds like a rhyme to me.

brownie posted:
slowpogo posted:
 

"Anyone can tell you
It's out of our hands.
God is rolling numbers
While I'm making a plan."

I'm surprised so many are so enamored with this lyric.  Isn't this a pretty cliche sentiment that's been stated in various forms (often more artfully) many times before?  It goes back to the famous John Lennon quote: "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans."  It's just nothing new or interesting to me. It's actually one of my least favorite lyrics on the album.

Whereas "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope / Beauty has a way of seeming unconcerned" does strike me as something interesting. Again, it's not a new sentiment (what is, really?) but he finds a way of expressing it that is evocative, poetic and uniquely Neil Finn. The other lyric could have been written by anyone.

I can see how you're reminded of the John Lennon lyric, but a different way of expressing a similar thought is not necessarily cliché.  I like Neil's take on it.

I don't understand "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope".  It just sounds like a rhyme to me.

Yeah but it's not just Neil - when a million people rephrase something across many mediums, that's the definition of cliche.  But you can find a way to express that thought, more obliquely or poetically perhaps, which would not raise the cliche alarm as much. 

Which is what I think the Terrorise Me lyric does.  I thought it was a clear, but poetic way of expressing something familiar... When you look at the stars and contemplate your own cosmic insignificance, and take in the utter indifference of a chaotic universe.  Again, it's a well-worn perspective but Neil approaches it obliquely and personally.  It's a thematic statement that perfectly kicks off a song ruminating over the senseless violence of terrorism, and he shows us, versus telling us like he does in Chameleon Days.

KEROUAC posted:

Even Lennon pinched the idea for that line.  https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/05/06/other-plans/  I also seem to remember an even earlier instance in a Robert Browning poem.

To me, it's not whether this idea has been used before. It's how Neil uses it. He pairs it with a brilliant, elegant melody in the perfect place in the song to create maximal emotional impact. I love the line/melody combination and I love the emotional power it packs in this song.

brownie posted:
slowpogo posted:
 

"Anyone can tell you
It's out of our hands.
God is rolling numbers
While I'm making a plan."

I'm surprised so many are so enamored with this lyric.  Isn't this a pretty cliche sentiment that's been stated in various forms (often more artfully) many times before?  It goes back to the famous John Lennon quote: "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans."  It's just nothing new or interesting to me. It's actually one of my least favorite lyrics on the album.

Whereas "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope / Beauty has a way of seeming unconcerned" does strike me as something interesting. Again, it's not a new sentiment (what is, really?) but he finds a way of expressing it that is evocative, poetic and uniquely Neil Finn. The other lyric could have been written by anyone.

I can see how you're reminded of the John Lennon lyric, but a different way of expressing a similar thought is not necessarily cliché.  I like Neil's take on it.

I don't understand "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope".  It just sounds like a rhyme to me.

I think you need the next line added as well.

There's no sign of hope
looking through a telescope
beauty has a way of seeming unconcerned

It's that third line that is the clincher for me... and it's probably my favourite line on the album...

Does anybody have a least favourite line? I still don't like the "basket-case" line ugh

Sugar Mouse posted:
KEROUAC posted:

Even Lennon pinched the idea for that line.  https://quoteinvestigator.com/2012/05/06/other-plans/  I also seem to remember an even earlier instance in a Robert Browning poem.

To me, it's not whether this idea has been used before. It's how Neil uses it. He pairs it with a brilliant, elegant melody in the perfect place in the song to create maximal emotional impact. I love the line/melody combination and I love the emotional power it packs in this song.

I agree and my comment wasn't meant as a criticism.

My home flooded during Hurricane Harvey. It was pretty dramatic, escaping our home in waist-deep water floating the dogs in a plastic bin. The gentleness of this record, the peacefulness of it, has been therapeutic to me as this nightmare continues.

My favorite line that touched me like he was talking directly to me, from Independence Day, "I'm sending you a message, from a million miles away...I'm aware you are controlled by forces still unknown...There'll be no sunset when the rain is falling...It's hard to hear thunder when the river keeps roaring... Then one day it's over like it never happened...."

yeah. I find great peace in these lines and in this, one of the most lovely songs Neil has ever written. 

brownie posted:
slowpogo posted:
 

"Anyone can tell you
It's out of our hands.
God is rolling numbers
While I'm making a plan."

I'm surprised so many are so enamored with this lyric.  Isn't this a pretty cliche sentiment that's been stated in various forms (often more artfully) many times before?  It goes back to the famous John Lennon quote: "Life is what happens when you're busy making other plans."  It's just nothing new or interesting to me. It's actually one of my least favorite lyrics on the album.

Whereas "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope / Beauty has a way of seeming unconcerned" does strike me as something interesting. Again, it's not a new sentiment (what is, really?) but he finds a way of expressing it that is evocative, poetic and uniquely Neil Finn. The other lyric could have been written by anyone.

I can see how you're reminded of the John Lennon lyric, but a different way of expressing a similar thought is not necessarily cliché.  I like Neil's take on it.

I don't understand "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope".  It just sounds like a rhyme to me.

I actually think that means something--it's hard to see hope when you are focused in on one specific thing. Hope requires a wide vision, where you are open to the full picture. I guess I just have experience with this in real life. It's actually deeper than one might think imo. 

I had a little chuckle when I read this:

the shuffling fatalistic single Second Nature("freaking out with the knowledge that everyone dies") and the 60s pop journey ofChameleon Days, a song about God plotting to kill you ("God is rolling numbers while I'm making a plan").

from: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/ente...mp;objectid=11921432

Not sure about the plot part..the lyric from Second Nature has stood out from the beginning for me.

 I love all the lyrics from Independance Day and it my favorite song at the moment. 

Riverdeboz posted:
brownie posted:

I don't understand "There's no sign of hope, looking through a telescope".  It just sounds like a rhyme to me.

I actually think that means something--it's hard to see hope when you are focused in on one specific thing. Hope requires a wide vision, where you are open to the full picture. I guess I just have experience with this in real life. It's actually deeper than one might think imo. 

Yes, that's it!  Or at least potentially it.  

I'm not sure why I couldn't figure that out. That makes perfect sense to me now, thank you!  

Thom Bullock posted:

"I know that you came closer to believing that we're through... but I know different" is a wonderful line, and that whole coda makes for as perfect an ending to an album as anyone could ask for. 

It's interesting. For me, "I Know Different" is a perfect second to last song. It essentially says that the protagonist recognizes that things almost ended and that he/she had a breakthrough moment that turned things around.

He/she gazed out across the water and saw something that turned things around.

To me, that's not quite a perfect closer. A perfect closer who be about this guiding principle that enabled him/her to "know different".

To me, that song would be Neil's beautiful song "Guiding Star" which is about finding one's purpose and one's power to move forward in life. Guiding Star has never been released on a Neil album and I wish he had included the epic song as the album closer. I also think "Ray of Hope" could have a been a great song to include somewhere on the album. 

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