Second Nature

I like it a lot. That was my favorite take and I wore it out last weekend. But now it's even stronger.  What lyric replaced "a sensitive guy"?   Which I always thought was trite...  Flash of Sheen Easton "modern girl".   And the lovely violinist gets her screen time back from all the other takes.  

I do really like Neil's soaring vocal line tossed in. Very, very nice. Thank you Kittybear for sharing.

proudpom posted:

So interesting to hear how Neil tweaked and changed this after the webcast! Looks like the second webcast has been removed from YouTube so you can't compare the versions unless you happened to save the full video before.

He did warn the webcast would only stay up a few days so blessed 1st one is still up ��

c.houser posted:

I like it a lot. That was my favorite take and I wore it out last weekend. But now it's even stronger.  What lyric replaced "a sensitive guy"?   Which I always thought was trite...  Flash of Sheen Easton "modern girl".   And the lovely violinist gets her screen time back from all the other takes.  

I do really like Neil's soaring vocal line tossed in. Very, very nice. Thank you Kittybear for sharing.

At 70 miles in love ? If so I like very much :-) and a tattoo heart to wrap her arms around just superb buonissimo 

I have the latest version on repeat - just when you thought Neil couldn't get any better...

Take 3 & 4 of the webcast versions were great but I was a little disappointed with the single version played on the radio (within the link a few posts up) but this final version on (iTunes and Spotify) is simply amazing!!

Captures the vibe of the live recording and the overdubs add plenty (some nice subtle sounds going on in the background).

"Just when you think everything is lost".

Kiwi posted:

Take 3 & 4 of the webcast versions were great but I was a little disappointed with the single version played on the radio (within the link a few posts up) but this final version on (iTunes and Spotify) is simply amazing!!

Captures the vibe of the live recording and the overdubs add plenty (some nice subtle sounds going on in the background).

Wow. I was not into the webcast version really at all. I was pleasantly surprised by the radio version above. And the final version from iTunes, as Kiwi says, is better yet. It's not too different but has those subtle overdubbed sounds, weird little swells and effects, artfully filling the gaps, like is often the case with Neil's stuff. I think I kind of love it.

That is Sandy Mill with EJ Barnes and Hollie Fullbrook (Tiny Ruins) with Reb Fountain.

i don't know much about Sandy Mill but Tiny Ruins has put out some great music. I first came across Reb Fountain at the "Waiting in the Sky" Bowie Tribute last year that Eddie Rayner arranged. She was one of the backing singers but did a duet with Skyscraper Stan on Sorrow. 

Second Nature - lyrics

She’ll be the queen of the bees with a worker divine
(Your second nature)
She’ll be the buzz that you heard in the back of your mind
(My ears are bleeding)
Show me the birth of a legend that can’t be controlled
(She’s her own one)
Waking us up with a song that can never grow old
(Can you believe it)

He’s on a Vesper
He wears a hairnet
A tattooed arrow heart
To wrap her arms around
See him leaning
Around the corner
At seventy miles an hour
In love
That could be dangerous
He is a lightning rod to love
Comes from the sky above
He is a man to trust in love
(And not just a likeness of)

Just when you think everything is lost
Give me a world that the travellers have never laid eyes on
(Your second nature)
I wonder if love can discover the natural high
(Stop the bleeding)
How many days that you waste as you make up your mind
(Your second nature)
Freaking out with the knowledge that everyone dies
(You don’t believe it)

He’s on a Vesper
He wears a hairnet
A tattooed arrow heart to wrap her arms around
See him leaning
Around the corner
At seventy miles an hour
In love
That could be dangerous
He is a lightning rod to love
That comes from the sky above
He is a man to trust in love
(And not just a likeness of)

And just when you think everything is lost
A tattooed arrow heart to wrap her arms around
She wants to kiss him but showing your affection’s not allowed.

I pulled these off the web, feel free to suggest amendments 

Kittybear posted:

I love the final version so much,

https://www.youtube.com/embed/WW3pb77HL0Q

I wasn't quite sure about it during the webcast and I think Neil wasn't totally happy with it but he made changes, mainly lyrical but the end is better too and now I think its a stunner.

One to have on repeat I think 

 

Yeah, this is so much seen before - from zero to hero! When I heard it in first version, I was so dissapointed. But, now, this is very delightfull and fine song, almost perfect. I know we wont all agree, but in hands of good producer it could be even better with some tricks, maybe extraordinary...

And here's another convert. I liked it during the webcast but wasn't overwhelmed (which is okay, not  every song can make you bliss out). Then I heard it on the radio a couple of days ago and - boom - that's a brilliant song! Really radio-able (that's not a word, but it's late here) as well.

Kittybear posted:

Second Nature - lyrics

She’ll be the queen of the bees with a worker divine
(Your second nature)
She’ll be the buzz that you heard in the back of your mind
(My ears are bleeding)
Show me the birth of a legend that can’t be controlled
(She’s her own one)
Waking us up with a song that can never grow old
(Can you believe it)

He’s on a Vesper
He wears a hairnet
A tattooed arrow heart
To wrap her arms around
See him leaning
Around the corner
At seventy miles an hour
In love
That could be dangerous
He is a lightning rod to love
Comes from the sky above
He is a man to trust in love
(And not just a likeness of)

Just when you think everything is lost
Give me a world that the travellers have never laid eyes on
(Your second nature)
I wonder if love can discover the natural high
(Stop the bleeding)
How many days that you waste as you make up your mind
(Your second nature)
Freaking out with the knowledge that everyone dies
(You don’t believe it)

He’s on a Vesper
He wears a hairnet
A tattooed arrow heart to wrap her arms around
See him leaning
Around the corner
At seventy miles an hour
In love
That could be dangerous
He is a lightning rod to love
That comes from the sky above
He is a man to trust in love
(And not just a likeness of)

And just when you think everything is lost
A tattooed arrow heart to wrap her arms around
She wants to kiss him but showing your affection’s not allowed.

I pulled these off the web, feel free to suggest amendments 

Great thank you for this. Note spelling on Vesper. :-) 

Jaffaman posted:

Good point about Vespa/Vesper! Didn't notice that. Have updated Neil's spelling on the YouTube video's closed captions.

I wonder if the intention was to spell it this way. Going back to references of Christianity etc.. Vesper meaning afternoon prayers? If so I am loving the wordplay :-)

JagDad posted:

Regarding the two versions of "Second Nature" available on iTunes -- i.e., the single and the one from the album -- how are they different?

They are constructed from different takes, and have a differing lyric in the chorus. Although they are very close the single version sounds more like it was meant for radio play, more immediate and hooky in its mix, whereas the album version is somehow less hyped.

Opinions vary but I easily prefer the single version, both for the immediate feel and the different lyric (I think the album lyric is lame, frankly).

Thanks for the info, Slowpogo.  After listening to both versions, I agree with your assessment that the single packs more of a punch lyrically and sonically.  I'm a bit confused by the timing of it all though ...

The  "70 miles an hour" and "tattoo arrow heart" lyrics don't appear in webcast 2, but the single was released the next day with those lyrics (?).  And in webcast 4, Neil seems to be stumbling at first with the "tattoo arrow heart" lyric, as if he's unfamiliar with singing it, before rocking an excellent take.  All things considered, I was expecting that the single would still have the "He's a sensitive guy" lyric, and that the album version would have the new lyrics and be a bit more fleshed-out sonically, having come later in the process and with more time available to spend on it.  But it seems to be the exact opposite!  I keep arguing with my iTunes library about which version is which, but it's obviously me who's wrong (this time).  ��

When I bought the digital album from Amazon, I received the single version of Human Nature,  Perhaps you could look there?  Sample that song and see what you get.  You can probably buy tracks individually.

I still haven't heard "the album version," and I suppose I never will.  I like the single version a lot, and am not keen to hear the "sensitive guy" lyric again, so no harm done,

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