Paul McCartney talks Neil Finn

Paul McCartney held a Facebook live chat today hosted by Tim Minchin during which he confirmed a run of shows in Australia and New Zealand. Neil Finn received a mention:

"McCartney also confirmed in the over-30 minute chat that the long-running rumour he once referred to Crowded House frontman, Neil Finn, as the world's greatest songwriter is false."

"After being teased by Minchin that he doesn't even like Finn's music, McCartney joked back, "I didn't say that. I don't, but I didn't say that… I love his songs actually."

http://themusic.com.au/news/al...-facebook-live-chat/

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I am not so sure that I would recommend to Neil that he work with Paul should the offer come his way.  I recently read the book "Man on the Run".  Excellent read btw.  It is basically Paul through the 70's and he does not come across well in the book.  Not that the book was meant to purposely make Paul look bad as it appears to be based on accounts of not only Paul but people who knew or worked closely with him.  He does come across as a bit domineering and difficult to work with.  After reading this book, you will know why there were so many line up changes in Wings during those years.  The reason why Lennon/McCartney worked so well was that Lennon was courageous enough to be honest with Paul and tell him a song was crap when it was.  Paul respected John and probably George & Ringo enough to accept their opinion.  After the Beatles, Paul I think was desperate to find another "John Lennon" but never really found that person.  Since the 80's, he has basically been "solo" with no one really telling him no when maybe someone should have.  Hense, "Mary had a little lamb" and "Silly Love Songs", etc.  But, I think that Paul has resigned himself to that and has learn feel comfortable with that.  I fear that a Neil/Paul collaboration may just end up being a Paul song with Neil backing him.  Not sure what great material that would produce.

I heard, also, that he is difficult to work with and doesn't accept criticism well, but I believe that if the opportunity were to arise, Neil would be fully equipped to make the decision whether or not to work with him...and, who know? Perhaps, it already has and they both agreed that it wouldn't be a good idea.

 

To me, Paul doesn't have the quality control Neil has. Paul continues to write incredible songs (see his fabulous recent album "New"), but can also write some clunkers. Neil seems to have a higher percentage of elite level songs. I suspect Neil has a stricter "internal critic" or has others (Tim, Sharon, Liam etc) who help him know when a song "has it" and when it still needs work. 

To be honest, I suspect that Neil may share some of the traits that I described in Paul.  I sure Nick can tell some stories about Neil that may not be complimentary, particularly with the first maybe 2 or 3 albums.  He did have a blow-out with Mitchell Froom and that may have been because he wasn't getting his way.  So, putting two people like that together may not be a good idea.  With "Out of Silence", I not sure that anyone was really there to tell Neil that "this is crap", not that I think any of the songs were.  So, I pretty much think that Neil got his way with this recent release.  Although, I was really surprised at how calm and collected Neil was during the webcasts.  He was almost too serene.  I was expecting him to be a bit more frantic.  Maybe with age, he doesn't sweat the stuff he use to do when he was much younger.  That is why I suspect that Paul might take control over this project.

I've always wondered how a Macca/Neil collaboration would go but some of the previous assessments are correct about Paul not taking criticism well. There's a great podcast featuring Beatles biographer Mark Lewisohn I listened to where he tells a first hand story. Paul's then manager told him Macca had gone ballistic over Elvis Costello giving him an honest appraisal of his songs. The podcast is long but well worth a listen if you're interested in Macca. I can't remember which point in the podcast he tells that story. https://soundcloud.com/fabcast-870039074/013-lewisohn

KEROUAC posted:

I've always wondered how a Macca/Neil collaboration would go but some of the previous assessments are correct about Paul not taking criticism well. There's a great podcast featuring Beatles biographer Mark Lewisohn I listened to where he tells a first hand story. Paul's then manager told him Macca had gone ballistic over Elvis Costello giving him an honest appraisal of his songs. The podcast is long but well worth a listen if you're interested in Macca. I can't remember which point in the podcast he tells that story. https://soundcloud.com/fabcast-870039074/013-lewisohn

Thanks, Kerouac.  that was a great listen.  There's a bit of CH in this particular episode with Mark Lewisohn as well.  

 

c.houser posted:
KEROUAC posted:

I can't remember which point in the podcast he tells that story. https://soundcloud.com/fabcast-870039074/013-lewisohn

Thanks for that. I've always enjoyed the Beatles podcasts, but was unaware of this one.  Alphabeatical is pretty good.

Not wishing to go off topic here but if you like Beatle podcasts you simply must listen to Something About the Beatles It's fantastic and I think THE best. Also Fab4Free4All is good too.

 

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