Out Of Silence | First listen

Just finished my first listen (in a slightly random order because of itunes settings) and all I can say is I am truly in awe.

This has to be one of the most beautiful and deeply emotional collections of songs ever I've ever heard.

The fact that Neil approached the arranging/recording process as a groundbreaking experiment only adds to the magic that his music creates.

This record deserves to be heard loud, in a living room, on a sunny autumn weekend afternoon, with a drink...

Once again I am amazed by Neil Finn's genius talents...

Weightless Astronaut posted:
brownie posted:

For what it's worth, I ended up buying the digital album from Amazon, and Second Nature is the single version, so I guess I'll never hear the other version where the lyric is changed back to "sensitive guy."

The "original" version can still be streamed.  

Here's the Tidal link - https://tidal.com/track/77476689

...and I am sure it'll be on Spotify too.

Spotify equivalent: https://open.spotify.com/album/0G6Me1kc7abUszTfVtmQ0V

I've got Apple Music so can listen whenever the music is out. Will actually buy the album later. 

My first listen was as someone else said, in a scrambled order because I didn't realise shuffle was on. I have to say it really made a difference listening in order as I was feeling a bit "blah" after the initial listening. That being said, I haven't really listened to the webcasts so it was basically a dry run at the songs. 

On to my 4th listen now and really loving the album as a whole. I find myself humming the tune of a few different songs without realising it. I haven't had the chance to listen through headphones yet, only in the car. 

Does the album have a storyline? I have not delved into finding out yet. It "sounds" like a story to me and a very emotive one at that. I'd be interested to know where the inspiration has come from. 

FutureDave posted:

 

Does the album have a storyline? I have not delved into finding out yet. It "sounds" like a story to me and a very emotive one at that. I'd be interested to know where the inspiration has come from. 

I wondered about this too. Knowing the way Neil works going on past interviews he usually likes the listener to make up their own mind about what a song means. But I noticed a "war" theme on a few songs. Maybe just a reflection of what's going on in the world.

That Love is Emotional song must be Neil Finns first self referencing on a record. At least it seems like it. Thr first few notes of the "Don't Dream it's Over" organ solo at the start and again after the "playing our song on the radio" part.

also this record has some of the best bass playing on a Finn record since "together alone".

 

KEROUAC posted:

I wondered about this too. Knowing the way Neil works going on past interviews he usually likes the listener to make up their own mind about what a song means. But I noticed a "war" theme on a few songs. Maybe just a reflection of what's going on in the world.

He said in an interview (can't remember which one, sorry) that this was indeed the first time he wrote quite a number of songs in response to world events / political issues. The references to the Paris attacks in Terrorise Me and police bruality in The Law is Always... are clear, and there's a similar tone in some others. He admitted though that he was a little bit apprensive about it (doesn't want to sound too preach-y etc.) , hence, I suspect, the good old Neil Finn tactic of blurry images, or "impressionistic lyrical style" as he likes calling it :-)

FutureDave posted:
Does the album have a storyline? I have not delved into finding out yet. It "sounds" like a story to me and a very emotive one at that. I'd be interested to know where the inspiration has come from. 

I also wonder if Neil intended this song cycle to be a story.

To me, it's a story of letting go and finding peace - both internally and externally. Here is how I interpret the story of "Out of Silence".

The story starts with the lead character lost and isolated as a "lone star" in the first song then realizing that there's another possibility - that there is "more than one of you". There is more than one way to live and one of these ways is "true." 

Perhaps this lone star, isolated way of life is our "second nature" and this character needs to keep searching for the true self  which is his/her "first nature"? 

This conflict between the "true self" (first nature) and the "false self" (second nature) is why we live so many "chameleon days" where we rotate between experiencing fear and love - between anger, frustration, and conflict as well as acceptance, joy, and love.

Despite this internal conflict, we continue to look in the "silence" for our "independence day", where we will find the freedom to live as our true nature and leave behind our isolated and "alone" way of life in the "streets" of our lives.

Fortunately, there are "laws" of truth and love which are "always on our side", available to help us when we're ready.

Leaving our false self behind is sort of like becoming a "widow" where we mourn this "loss" which can be a truly terrifying experience. Finding peace and love and leaving behind the "false self" can be very scary, but the lead character "knows different" and knows that this internal battle is worth the struggle to find the answers to life's struggles. The lead characters knows that there is another way to live.

The lead character looks out over the sea and sees an answer - a "guiding star" which is in the distance, but also nearby - within the heart - and it helps guide and heal his/her emotional pain and fears as the character embraces and fully experiences the connections that unite all of us in love.

Neil has said that 6 or so of the songs all came in one night at the piano, so it doesn't suprise me that there feels to be an storyline "arc" to the album - he also mentioned that some were - as previously mentioned - direct responses to world events - not like him but I think it works on this...

Any one else really want him to re:record Dizzy Heights in this way - piano, choir and VK's strings - no? Just me then.....!

JamieB... posted:

Any one else really want him to re:record Dizzy Heights in this way - piano, choir and VK's strings - no? Just me then.....!

Not being contrary, or rude - but no. Definitely not. 

 

Dizzy Heights took me by surprise in that it was such an unexpectedly psychedelic and lush sounding record. Following albums like Intriguer, and Pajama Party, I expected Dizzy to be a more intimate and stripped affair. The result? His best record since TWT. I wouldn't touch DH at all. It's fine. 

But could One Nil be improved with the Out of Silence production? Absolutely. 

JamieB... posted:

Neil has said that 6 or so of the songs all came in one night at the piano, so it doesn't suprise me that there feels to be an storyline "arc" to the album - he also mentioned that some were - as previously mentioned - direct responses to world events - not like him but I think it works on this...

Any one else really want him to re:record Dizzy Heights in this way - piano, choir and VK's strings - no? Just me then.....!

After having seen Neil perform "Solo with Strings" 2015, where he performed many of the songs from Dizzy Heights, I think that this album makes sense as a follow on.  Would have loved to hear the whole album that way ..but still feel blessed that he came back with that tour "Solo with Strings" 2015..as after Dizzy Heights I was sure it would not happen. 

He might not refer exactly to world events but he does refer to things going on in the world. Game of Thrones comes to mind

Having had it on non-stop for the last week or so, I think it's one of Neil's best efforts yet.

All memorable songs and melodies with the strings making the sound very lush.  As someone else said, the Don't Dream it's Over organ solo makes an appear at the start of Love is Emotional.

Is it just me, or do some of the songs also feel like they could feature in a musical?!  Am thinking of 'Alone' and 'I know Different' in particular...

jameseyre1 posted:

Is it just me, or do some of the songs also feel like they could feature in a musical?!  Am thinking of 'Alone' and 'I know Different' in particular...

I sincerely hope Neil never writes a musical or sanctions the use of any of his songs in such a production. 

I don't believe he writes his songs to a (connected) theme.  

Weightless Astronaut posted:
jameseyre1 posted:

Is it just me, or do some of the songs also feel like they could feature in a musical?!  Am thinking of 'Alone' and 'I know Different' in particular...

I sincerely hope Neil never writes a musical or sanctions the use of any of his songs in such a production. 

I don't believe he writes his songs to a (connected) theme.  

Neil has said that some of the songs from "Out of Silence" have musical aspirations.  I believe he's said that about "Alone" and "More Than One of You".

I don't think the apparent reference to the "Don't Dream It's Over" organ solo in "Love is Emotional" was intentional. It's clearly an extremely similar melody, but it's also the verse melody for the rest of the song, which is more likely what the string section is referencing.

I guess there are only so many melodies inside one man's head and he's bound to repeat them from time to time.

Mariola posted:

First listen:

I was laughing.

I was crying.

My heart was melting.

My throat was drying.

Didnt expect so much emotions from him. Neither from me.

Enough said!

 

Dont know if someone somewhere quoted only his own words, but I will. 

Imagine this: every night for about a week, alone in room full of some magic mystirious vibe (we were guests at friends home, some kind of temple), with ceiling full of (electric) stars blinking, while wife and little daughter peacefully slept in other room, you listen this album for about your 4th to 10th times, with your earphones. It was strong, blissful experience I will never, never forget.

Like this album- starting with something I could only dream of, to me, song from some other world - Love is emotional is so beautiful that I cant find words to express my feelings when I listen to it. From the opening words "A face in the crowd is watching me..." with most beautiful arranged backing vocals to last ... "I know different" this album is unique music experience, journey, on which I went almost every evening/night from the first moment it came out.

You know what this album can do to you when you listen to it? It can make you feel and think that everything else is trivial compare to it! Even albums from Neil which I used to and still love, like Intriguer and Dizzy Heights! Unbelievable! 

How I get a picture of mother crying in front seat of the car like it was my own?! How am I in that car, wright there every time when I listen it and crying over it?!

How this instruments changing and following one another in Chameleon Days is tremendous! Like chameleon itself! Fantastic falseto followed by fantastic refrain which is heartbreaking. How not to raise your hands in the air, sing it while your heart is  breaking into pieces, your mouth is drying in emotional (positive) shock and exctasy!?

How this strong piano and choir in refrain of Independence days cut the air itself, cut the song at half, raises the day, move the clouds?!

How Tims vocal gives to Alone most emotional impact, wulnerablness of alienation in big city?!

How backing vocals in Widows Peek work like instrument on its own??? They are not just vocals, Neil uses backing vocals as intrument for the first time, not only in this song, through whole album. And its working fantastic! Slowpogo, if you are reading, massage to you - you were wright, I was not! Didnt have a clue what he/they are capable of. 

How Terrorise Me brings ME as a sad, desperate and crying viewer on Boulevard Voltaire? I was never there, but seems like I was, and I am, caught in time to reveal it every night, again and again...

How angels came to Earth and sing, pushes darkness out in I know different, and from where???? If you ever hear more complex song than this, let me know, you ll be my guest in Croatia, together we ll know different and find angels of our own.  

You know now what I think about this album.

Neil, once more, with eyes full of tears, thank you for this deepest emotional and spiritual experience!

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