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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Paināporo ·
The average time it takes for Neil to put out an album of all new material is 30 months. Neil generally releases *something* every 20 months (new album, live album, rarities collection, etc.). It's been 27 months since Neil released Dizzy Heights, so we are overdue for something this year (probably the box set). The longest time Neil has gone without releasing anything was 36 months between Temple of Low Men and Woodface. The second longest time was between Pajama Club and Dizzy Heights at...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Jim B. ·
Hi Slowpogo: You're right, I phrased it wrong. I meant to say that any new CH record will likely be 10 years (at least) from Intriguer; the same gap there was before Time On Earth. Which I find astonishing; I never thought we'd see such a long break again, that is, without breaking up the band for good.
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Jim B. ·
Can you really call it a band if you keep taking decade-long breaks?
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Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Jim B. ·
I'm wondering if Neil's announcement that he's working on a solo and another project with Liam means that CH is essentially through? Perhaps the upcoming reissues are essentially a denouement.
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

slowpogo ·
I don't think that's the case. On a radio show a few months back they asked him if he's working on solo projects, a family band album, Finn Brothers or Crowded House next and he said something like "all of the above, I'm not sure what will emerge first." He also said in the not too distant past, that Crowded House are "up on blocks in the garage" - dormant but still existing. With all that said, I bet it'll be several years, given his current projects, before we hear anything new from...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Paināporo ·
I think we've seen enough hints on Facebook that CH will be doing something this year. It might not be a new album, but I'm still hoping for a remastered box set/albums with bonus tracks. There's bound to be some good promotion to go along with that. Maybe some shows/promotional interviews?
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Jim B. ·
I hope you are all right. But given Neil's inclination to work solo or with family & friends, this is the last new material we're going to hear from CH ("new" meaning original stuff we haven't heard). Otherwise, after he does do promotion for these re-issues, how long will it be before his next solo work? Or something with Liam, or Tim? What about touring after any or all of these efforts? I just can't imagine when he would bring the members of the band together to record a new record...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

BRANDO BRANDT ·
There was a post on the forum a few weeks back, from someone who asked Mark Hart if they were working on a new CH album, and Mark's response was "no new album, but a 5 disc box-set is expected to be released around November this year..." . That post was deleted shortly after... I personally think that goodhearted Mark spilled the beans on something that will probably be announced publicly at a later time... (i really hope he didn't get in trouble for that). Also, Matt has recently said that...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Jim B. ·
Any promotional shows this year will be great, I hope they happen. It just occurred to me that it's been six years since Intriguer...and with two other projects it will be at least 10 years before the next studio CH record, which would be the same gap as between Farewell and Time On Earth. CH Mark 3. I don't know...I just can't see that happening. But that doesn't mean I'm not thrilled with the idea of reissues or a box set, I am---I've been waiting on this since it was first intimated,...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

slowpogo ·
The last few years Neil has talked a big game about upping his output, saying he wants to release an album every year and things like that. But so far it's been business as usual. If he ever actually works as quickly as he wants to, we could see a CH album a lot sooner than 10 years. Actually, if it was next after the current projects, at his regular pace it would still be sooner than that (I'd guess 5ish years). Not holding my breath though...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

slowpogo ·
Haha, you did all the math I've been too lazy to do! That was weirdly fascinating to read. Thanks.
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Paināporo ·
I would also add that if you break up Neil's career into decades you get the following averages: 1986-1995 - New album every 28.0 months 1996-2005 - New album every 35.3 months 2006-2014 - New album every 28.5 months So while not quite releasing new materials on pace with the original Crowded House albums (and Finn), he's certainly picked up the pace from the long slog of 1996-2005 when he only released three albums of new material.
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

OneIssue ·
Great to see the maths. I guess that we will see a new CH album sometime, but it'll be years and years from now.
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c.houser ·
I didn't intend to sound critical. I'm in for whatever future releases Mr. Finn offers us. With Thanks for years of service.
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

slowpogo ·
Jim B. posted: Can you really call it a band if you keep taking decade-long breaks? Sure you can. Split Enz occasionally reforms, not even to do an album but just to perform, and they're a band. The 7 Worlds Collide group was only around for a week, but you can call them a band too.
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OneIssue ·
A band exists until the members decide that it doesn't any more. And even then they can change their mind. The Eagles: "Hell Freezes Over". I guess that everyone will be able to guess why that album was called what it was. Neil basically will be able to convene CH pretty much any time he wants to. I'm not sure if I hope he does; I'm happy with whatever he blesses us with.
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Patrick ·
If Neil wants do record a new CH record - what I personally hope - with the existing members, it had to be in the next 1-3 years. Remember, Mark Hart is 62 already, and the other members aren't getting younger too...So I doubt "it'll be years and years from now..", especially when it comes to touring. If there will be a new CH record, it has to be in the very near future. That's just MHO.
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brownie ·
I was thinking something very similar, Patrick. I don't think there are "years and years" left, even for Neil himself when it comes to touring. Having made that trip to NZ from the east coast of the US twice myself, I can't imagine that getting any easier with age.
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

c.houser ·
"Vacant House?"
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Paināporo ·
Wouldn't it be great if the "solo" album he's been working on turns out to be a new Crowded House album they've been working on in secret? I realize the chances of that are like 2%, but it would be a pretty great surprise.
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Paul H ·
As much as 2% you think? Optimist!
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BRANDO BRANDT ·
Don't Dream It's Over...
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Neil Finn/Finn/CH CD Singles Offered

Alb ·
I'm decluttering and getting rid of my Finn-related CD singles. They're all UK releases from 1998 onward: She Will Have Her Way 1&2 Sinner 1&2 Last One Standing EP Wherever You Are 1&2 Hole In the Ice 1&2 Won't Give In 1&2 Nothing Wrong With You 1&2 Edible Flowers Don't Stop Now 1&2 And Also: Fingers of Love (from 1994 I think) and Don't Dream It's Over (1996 re-release I think). I'm open to offers, including simply just paying for postage from the UK. Drop me a...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Kittybear ·
Simple answer: NO!
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stuartjb ·
I don't think they're through. Neil was quite deliberate in 96, when he made it quite clear ch mark 1 had come to an end. No such statement now. I don't think he ever meant it to be this long, but time passes so quickly ( for me anyway) . I reckon they'll definitely do something towards the end of this year however brief to coincide with the album reissues. Mark being 62 is irrelevant. Have you seen how fit the guy is?!
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

BRANDO BRANDT ·
stuartjb , I hope you're right. It certainly would make sense for Neil to use the release of the Reissues or Box-Set later this year, as an opportunity to play live again with Nick, Mark and Matt. Nobody seems to know for sure what the other guys are up to these days or what kind of commitments they may have that could potential interfere with a CH reunion. In terms of Mark's age vs. his physical health, he sure does seem to be a healthy guy and does not look like a sexagenarian.
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

awamutu ·
imo, o...the ch i fell in love with were through in '96. i saw them under the same moniker after that but it wasn't the same band, the same sound or the same vibe...it wasn't bad, it was just so different. the name should have been changed when they "reformed". but i guess there's some benefit to keeping the name "crowded house" when the song "don't dream it's over" is attached to it...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

stuartjb ·
Sorry you feel that way. I totally disagree. Don't see why crowded house should charge their name?! It's the chemistry of the band I yearn for, and a change of drummer doesn't change that for me...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

awamutu ·
more than just the drummer changed but you're right, difference of opinion i totally yearn for the band chemistry, too, and just ain't finding it -with those 4 guys- anymore.
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Paul H ·
I agree with Stuart that it's the chemistry of the band I yearn for. It's just that I agree with Awamutu that it was lost when the drummer changed back in 1994. CH has been a fine band since; they've made some wonderful music that stands on its own, but so has Neil outside of CH. And, for my money, there's little difference now between Neil solo and CH, but a world of difference between current CH and the CH of 1992-93. I'll happily take a new CH album but I'd be no more excited for a new CH...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

awamutu ·
i was there the day paul left (but didn't know he had left til hearing it on the radio 2 weeks later) and that saddened me but i could understand his reasons. what saddened me even more was when neil declared it was over. then i knew, no more crowded house. that's why the reformations under the same name didn't make sense to me (but then, one can always change their mind, lol). in my ears, neil solo and ch are worlds apart, no matter what time frame. i definitely prefer the stuff he does on...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

Jim B. ·
I have a different take---I feel like Neil's work is clearly differentiated depending on the outlet for it. Take Pajama Club or his new solo CD (or his previous solo CD's for that matter). I think Neil tends to write much more in an accessible style for Crowded House, especially comparing his contemporary work with CH & CH Mark II. His classic "Leonard (Cohen)-McCartney" (in his words) songs that distinguish CH are not found much at all on his recent work. He allows himself much more...
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Re: Given Neil's Announcement, is CH Through?

slowpogo ·
Paul H posted: I agree with Stuart that it's the chemistry of the band I yearn for. It's just that I agree with Awamutu that it was lost when the drummer changed back in 1994. CH has been a fine band since; they've made some wonderful music that stands on its own, but so has Neil outside of CH. And, for my money, there's little difference now between Neil solo and CH, but a world of difference between current CH and the CH of 1992-93. If band chemistry is one's concern, I don't know how...
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Paul H ·
slowpogo posted: I definitely disagree that there's little difference between Neil solo and CH. Time on Earth is easily my favorite thing Neil's done since 1996, and it's the one record where certain songs truly seem to harken back to the band's heyday. Nobody Wants To, Don't Stop Now in particular, but others too. There's a certain magic there when those guys (or even just Neil and Nick) play together, no matter how much Neil pretends it doesn't matter what name you put on his stuff.
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slowpogo ·
Paul H posted: Interesting that we all hear the same things differently. Time on Earth was, of course, a solo album (albeit with Nick on bass) until it had been completed, at which point Neil decided to reform the band. At that point, it made no sense to have CH touring a solo album and so it was badged as the CH record it never was (by way of token gesture, they recorded four new tracks for it but even so, musically it remains a solo album). And, to me, it sounds much more like a Neil album...
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Mariola ·
I thought that I ve seen everything here; but that 3 out of 4 members of original Crowded House incl. (most relevant thing) song writing force and singer of band, shouldnt called themselves Crowded House in new incarnation??? LOL Its more and more obvious, what I stated in time of "Intriguer" that we have big differences between fans who followed CH in time of first incarnation and those who became fans later, like me. I saw CH two times: 2007. Wien, and 2008. Zurich. They were just great,...
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stuartjb ·
Mariola posted: I thought that I ve seen everything here; but that 3 out of 4 members of original Crowded House incl. (most relevant thing) song writing force and singer of band, shouldnt called themselves Crowded House in new incarnation??? LOL This . Absolutely spot on . People also seem to forget that Crowded House have had 3 drummers ? One of the best gigs I've ever been to was their appearance at T in the park in 94 with Peter Jones on drums .Paul , as much as I loved him left , and the...
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BRANDO BRANDT ·
Mariola, you bring up a very interesting point; what if Dizzy Heights would have been a CH album instead of Neil solo? The more I think about that, the more tempted I am to wonder if that would have been the biggest and most succesful album of Neil's career. I can imagine how the arrangements would have been slightly different and how with Nick, Mark and Matt as the band (and their vocals) this record probably would have been viewed by many as a Masterpiece. Those songs are brilliant and...
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Paul H ·
slowpogo posted: Paul H posted: Interesting that we all hear the same things differently. Time on Earth was, of course, a solo album (albeit with Nick on bass) until it had been completed, at which point Neil decided to reform the band. At that point, it made no sense to have CH touring a solo album and so it was badged as the CH record it never was (by way of token gesture, they recorded four new tracks for it but even so, musically it remains a solo album). And, to me, it sounds much more...
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Paul H ·
stuartjb posted: 2 thirds of the original line up play on the entire album , with four tracks by the current full line up . why shouldn't it be billed as Crowded House ?! Here's my personal perspective on the tricky subject of billing: I think it has more to do with intent than with who actually played on the performance. I know that sounds daft but let me explain: Yesterday was recorded by Paul McCartney. No other Beatle plays on it. And yet it is a Beatles recording. Why? Because it was...
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CH Encore - Saturday, Nov 26, 2016 - 2 tix for sale

reddawg ·
I am heartbroken that I can no longer go to the Crowded House Encore show in Sydney on Sat Nov 26 but would love to help another fan go! I'm selling my two tickets for face value (or rounded down to $120 AUD each). I'm willing to sell them separately. I hope a fellow Frenz can use them and will enjoy the show as much as I would expect!
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reddawg ·
Just a reminder that these are still available!
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One ticket available for Saturday Nov 26 CH show

Clovis ·
Please PM me if interested!
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Re: One ticket available for Saturday Nov 26 CH show

Clovis ·
Ticket still available! Will sell for $100!
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Re: Neil Finn/Finn/CH CD Singles Offered

Franmiguel ·
Hi, It doesn't look like you have received any replies!! Do you still have these? Regards Michael
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Re: Neil Finn/Finn/CH CD Singles Offered

Alb ·
Hi Michael, I did get one reply but the person hasn't got back to me with an address. If you're interested, I'd be happy to send that person one more nag and, if they don't get back to me tomorrow, post the CDs to you instead. Whereabouts are you based? Cheers, Ian From: Frenz Forum < alerts@hoop.la > To: Alb < gianluccahalli-ask@yahoo.com > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2016, 9:02 Subject: Reply By Franmiguel: Neil Finn/Finn/CH CD Singles Offered Reply By Franmiguel: Neil...
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Re: Neil Finn/Finn/CH CD Singles Offered

Herbalife ·
If you still have them I will take them all for 20 dollars NZ. If you would not mind perhaps you could include the tracklist for each disc as this is kind of a collectors type of page and that interests these sorts of people. I would want these for rare live songs and any b sides I haven't heard or have on mp3 file. Suffer never.
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Better Be Home Soon / Fall at Your Feet / Distant Sun (Aria HOF Medley)

ridley1 ·
Hi Frenz! I remember purchasing this track featuring Missy Higgins, Bernard Fanning and CH from the iTunes store the day after the Aria Hall of Fame performance in 2016 - however it seems to have disappeared from my purchases iTunes folder :( Unfortunately it's no longer for sale in the iTunes store, so I was hoping someone here might still have the file saved somewhere and would be kind enough to share it? Cheers, ridley
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Lachie ·
I have the whole concert on my laptop but i'm not sure i should share it?
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ridley1 ·
Thanks for the reply Lachie - I have the whole telecast as well, what I'm looking for is the mp3/aac file that iTunes released the day after the show. Does anyone have this?
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